Red Jezza said:that's pretty sick of whoever's running those trips
pbman said:And how would it be different than people visiting triblinka or the holocust muesuem?
We need to remmber all the innocent people the commies murdered,and document it, as well as hitlers crimes, so they don't happen again.
Otherwise commies will be talking shit like the neo-nazi's, claiming it didn't happen, and so on.
MikeMcc said:Visiting something while you are in the area, no problems with that. But selling a 'holiday destination' based on that seems a bit ghoulish to me.
maomao said:It's not like they're going to be sunning themselves on the beach drinking vodka cocktails, it's pretty fucking cold you know. I think you'd have to want to go there.
MikeMcc said:Doesn't stop people going to Finland either, and I think I'd rather go there.
if you really can't see what is utterly repellent about someone running package tours transporting people 1000s of miles to go there - you are one sick puppy.pbman said:And how would it be different than people visiting triblinka or the holocust muesuem?
We need to remmber all the innocent people the commies murdered,and document it, as well as hitlers crimes, so they don't happen again.
Otherwise commies will be talking shit like the neo-nazi's, claiming it didn't happen, and so on.
pbman said:And how would it be different than people visiting triblinka or the holocust muesuem?
We need to remmber all the innocent people the commies murdered,and document it, as well as hitlers crimes, so they don't happen again.
Otherwise commies will be talking shit like the neo-nazi's, claiming it didn't happen, and so on.
nino_savatte said:X! You have the thought processes of a dry salted cracker.
MikeMcc said:Visiting something while you are in the area, no problems with that. But selling a 'holiday destination' based on that seems a bit ghoulish to me.
Red Jezza said:if you really can't see what is utterly repellent about someone running package tours transporting people 1000s of miles to go there - you are one sick puppy.
Stalin's gulag prison camps are to form the gory centrepiece of a drive to turn Siberia into a holiday destination.
A Siberian travel company is refurbishing one of its vessels to carry tourists up the River Yenisei to remote former prisons.
Vladimir Demidov, president of Dula Tours, said the price would be from 21,000 roubles ($1045) for a 12-day tour to the death camps.
"Practically nothing has been done [to these sites] but it's so cold they are perfectly preserved," he said, according to a Sydney Morning Herald report.
Visits - possible only in June and July because of extreme weather - are to be co-ordinated from Krasynoyarsk, in eastern Siberia.
They will use the passenger ship Anton Chekhov, which has 42 twin berths and two luxury cabins, a far cry from the dreadful treatment of the gulag prisoners.
The state of the inmates was recorded in graphic detail by Alexander Solzhenitsyn in books such as The Gulag Archipelago and A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich.
In 1938, when the Russian secret police were recruited to purge the country of anti-Soviet elements, the prison population reached 2 million.
30 June 2004
Poi E said:Still camps there being used to hold Putin's enemies...
pbman said:Well more people died in stalins camps than hitlers
pbman said:And how would it be different than people visiting triblinka or the holocust muesuem?
We need to remmber all the innocent people the yanks murdered,and document it, as well as hitlers crimes, so they don't happen again.
Otherwise yanks will be talking shit like the neo-nazi's, claiming it didn't happen, and so on.
pbman said:But no one has a problem with commie camps its only gitmo thats a problem..
Poi E said:Russia is not a communist country anymore.
Sorry. said:I don't think there's a historian of any vague credibility who would claim that to be the truth.
Poi E said:Russia is not a communist country anymore.
pbman said:Of corse not, they all died quietly.
But by all means add, up the number of people who dissapeared and get back to me.
pbman said:Corrrect the same commies now call themselves capitalists or whatever.
But its the same people running things.
Sorry. said:Only under a capitalist system, and in a capitalist way.
pbman said:Looks like the same old shaft the people,live like a king communism, pretending to be capitalism to me.