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elbows said:
I suppose what I really hope for is that it catches on in terms of app support, and then someone hacks it so that stuff thats meant to display on the touch bar can appear on other mobile devices with multitouch screens instead.
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I think lots of apps will support it in some way very soon, given that Apple usually provide nice easy hooks to exploit the new features of their OS and hardware. The question of how _useful_ that support will be, though... If I were a small app developer I'd be thinking "cool, new toy, I'm going to put some touchbar stuff into the next version of FancyPants.app! but not anything that's essential because only some tiny percentage of my users will have it at all". I see it a bit like Apple Watch app versions.
 
Yup, new prices are a lot more than I was hoping, even with a nice work discount on Apple products it will still be pricey, was hoping to get a 15" but that is out the price range by a long shot, the 13" 16GB RAM, 512GB Storage would be as well if it wasn't for a recent windfall!
 
cybershot said:
Yup, new prices are a lot more than I was hoping, even with a nice work discount on Apple products it will still be pricey, was hoping to get a 15" but that is out the price range by a long shot, the 13" 16GB RAM, 512GB Storage would be as well if it wasn't for a recent windfall!
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Actually changed my mind overnight and think I'll give it a miss this time round, desperate for a new laptop, but don't think I want to cough up £1800 when I can get something key spec wise as good on Windows for pretty much a grand less.
 
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I quite like the look of that bar thing on the new Macbooks although the machines are ludicrously expensive. Lenovo did something a while back but their version didn't prove popular. I'd still prefer a proper touchscreen though.
 
Some very nice new laptops! Love that touch bar thing and Touch ID finally!

Pricey but going to replace my 6.5 year old MacBook Pro for a new one in a few weeks.[emoji41]


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Plus point: The Mac laptop I bought three years ago is as fast and crisp as day one (I drilled sooooo many dead windows laptops. They were cheap. And cost me more money in wasted)

Bad point: I soooo want the new one. Shiny things.
 
sim667 said:
The price rises occurred everywhere...... its simply not just due to brexit.

In some instances if you do the math, we actually pay a little bit less than the US for mac products now.
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You keep saying that but I'm not sure as its true. Did the Mac Pro go up massively in dollars?

As for why we pay a bit less than US for some products, thats probably because Apple decided to continue 'taking a hit' on some products, whilst adjusting others according to exchange rate changes since the last repricing event.
 
paolo said:
Plus point: The Mac laptop I bought three years ago is as fast and crisp as day one (I drilled sooooo many dead windows laptops. They were cheap. And cost me more money in wasted)

Bad point: I soooo want the new one. Shiny things.
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I gave up on Windows in 2010 after ten years in which I bought FOUR different PCs which all slowed to the point of near uselessness within a a couple years. My 13" MacBook Pro took nearly six years before the speed became an issue. Plus no idiotic Windows updates to deal with!


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sim667 said:
The price rises occurred everywhere...... its simply not just due to brexit.

In some instances if you do the math, we actually pay a little bit less than the US for mac products now.
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My 128gb iPhone 6s Plus cost £789 last year. The 7 plus with same storage costs £819. I have to say mate I find it hard to believe that's not Brexit induced.


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paolo said:
Plus point: The Mac laptop I bought three years ago is as fast and crisp as day one (I drilled sooooo many dead windows laptops. They were cheap. And cost me more money in wasted)

Bad point: I soooo want the new one. Shiny things.
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My late 2010 MacBook Air is still going fine (could do with a larger SSD but that's not really its fault). My 27" iMac of a similar vintage is also fine—I thought I might need to change the HD recently but actually it was just some weird corruption issue and a reformat fixed it. The whole TCO issue with Macs is definitely true IME, though there was a period a couple of years before that when build quality went way down.
 
sim667 said:
The price rises occurred everywhere...... its simply not just due to brexit.

In some instances if you do the math, we actually pay a little bit less than the US for mac products now.
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None of the existing products changed price in the US. They did in the UK though.
For example:
Macbook 12" with m3 CPU and 256GB SSD went from £1049 to £1249. US RRP remained $1299 (ex tax)
MacBook 12" with m5 CPU and 512GB SSD went from £1299 to £1549. US RRP remained $1599 (ex tax)

Electrolux (from Sweden) have also put their prices up 10%, also to compensate for currency fluctuation.
Not all retailers have updated their prices so there are some savings to be made if you were already intending buying in the near future.
 
sim667 said:
The MacBook dilemma: Pay more, or get an old machine
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Ouch!
In one fell swoop, Apple raised the entry-level price for professionals looking to buy its laptops by an enormous 50 percent: from $1,000 to $1,500. Anything less than that, and you can only get a machine that's a year or two old. Sure, that old Air or Pro will still do its job, but for a cost-conscious professional or small business, it makes far more sense to buy a Dell, HP or aLenovo and get a 13-inch laptop with the latest processors and the latest design starting at around $1,000.


By the way, when I say "latest processors," I mean Intel's Kaby Lake processors; those are one generation ahead than the Skylake processors Apple is using in its newest MacBook Pros.

(While Apple doesn't list exact specs of processors used in its laptops, I've checked the specs prior to the event and after, and they all appear exactly the same for the 13-inch Air, as well as the cheapest 13- and 15-inch Pro.)
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The lack of a SD slot seems a ridiculous omission.

The new MacBook Pros don't have SD card slots.

What?!?

Really. Apple's addlepated, brain-dead, counter-productive insistence on design nicety and the tiresome modernist spare-and-clean design aesthetic above user convenience, usability, and plain old functionality has been a consistent if intermittent failing of the brand over many years. I thought it would die with Steve, because I thought it was his self-indulgent idiosyncratic peccadillo.

But no. This is possibly the worst instance yet—Jobs' indulgent idiosyncratic peccadillo raised to the level of corporate policy. (I'm getting exercised, so whoa boy.) But one big reason I've liked my last two large-screen iMacs, and definitely a big part of the appeal of my MacBook Air laptop, is that they all have built-in SD card slots—it's been especially convenient not to have to carry card readers when I travel like in the bad old days.

And one big reason I haven't replaced my mid-2010 27" iMac is because they relocated the SD card slot to the back, which is exactly where you don't want it to be, and I know myself well enough to know that I would be annoyed anew every single time I had to stand up and crane my neck over the monitor to see the back of the machine just to insert or remove a card.

Just like I'm annoyed every single time I have to swap a USB cable on my iMac because Apple thinks it's cool somehow to not give you enough USB ports (you're supposed to buy a Mac Pro if you want enough ports).
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Moreover, Apple's stupid design-first mantra is actually back-asswards anyway, because the cleaner the machine, the more your desk, not to mention your luggage, is cluttered with dongles and peripherals and other shit. I can see this working OK for a desktop unit, though, where you can use the USB-C/Thunderbolt port to connect to something that's actually useful for connectivity like a dock, even though that completely defeats the purpose of the alleged simplicity they're going for. But really, when you're on the road, traveling, the last thing you want to do is to have to carry along and keep track of a bunch of different connector cables and dongles. And what if you encounter a situation while traveling that you don't happen to be carrying the proper dongle for? That's another reasons why laptops should have maximal connectivity and why maximal connectivity is good.

I'm not an expert on computers, but as a photographer I see this as a major fail on Apple's part. You might disagree, so go ahead, tell me about that.
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The Good and Bad of the New MacBook Pro
 
Kid_Eternity said:
I gave up on Windows in 2010 after ten years in which I bought FOUR different PCs which all slowed to the point of near uselessness within a a couple years. My 13" MacBook Pro took nearly six years before the speed became an issue. Plus no idiotic Windows updates to deal with!


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My Windows 7 laptop is just shy of 4 years old and as nippy as when box-fresh. Has a lot to do with the lap top and not the OS I reckon. Samsung Series 9, battery life is still pretty bloody good too and it's had shit-loads of use.

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Windows gets slower over time, it's just the nature of it, depending on how well you work you can make it last a long time without the need for a reformat. I tinker with my machines too much, but I think I did manage to get to the stage where at one point i didn't reinstall for over 12 months. This was on Windows 8, would probably have lasted longer had I not jumped on Windows 10 pretty early.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Lost in the great move to USB-C for everything. It's their biggest mistake imho.
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That and the lack of an SD card slot would really makes life difficult for me if I was taking a Mac on the road. I get their endless quest for 'simplicity' and refinement, but it seems that they're sacrificing an awful lot of useful stuff in their drive for aesthetically pleasing laptops. It won't look so beautiful after someone trips over the USB-C cable and sends it crashing to the ground.
 
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