Apple new product rumours and general news

[weltweit]

As I just posted to the wrong thread, Apple has denied reporting that it is planning/trying to cut out mobile network operators profits on the sale of iPhones.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/04/us-apple-mobile-idUSKCN0Q91Q020150804

 

[weltweit]

more comment in the same vein
http://www.techvoize.com/news/industry-news/apple/2015/08/05/apple-plans-to-become-a-mobile-carrier/

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I guess what will make it harder is apple have the best finger print scanner from what I heard.

Yup. Its the best around.

 

[Mojofilter]

Ive used Apple Pay and it is indeed very slick, however I don't see it being anything more than a neat gimmick until it's so ubiquitous that I can leave my wallet at home.
It takes the same amount of time to get my phone out of my pocket as it does my wallet so until then I don't really see the benefit.

I do look forward to not having to carry my wallet around though, I dunno if I have an unusually boney arse or something but I hate having nowhere to keep it other than my back pocket :/

 

[Kid_Eternity]

The availability is the big issue for take up imo. I've never stood in a queue without my phone in my hand (I doubt many people do tbh) so it's far quicker to pay with it than my card...

 

[Mojofilter]

But if you're in a queue you (or at least I) get my wallet out just before the person in front of me has finished. Either way it takes literally 2-3 seconds.
The fingerprint stuff adds a couple of seconds compared to contactless - not that I'm complaining - I'm just saying that the killer feature will be leaving your cards at home.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

One advantage of a card though is that you can take money out with it. Old school I know, but there are certainly times it still comes in handy!

 

[editor]

It takes me nano seconds to plonk my card on a reader, and it sure seems easier than having to pull out my phone and hope I don't snag the earphone lead or faff about with fingerprint readers (and waste battery life each time).

 

[2hats]

It takes me nano seconds to plonk my card on a reader, and it sure seems easier than having to pull out my phone and hope I don't snag the earphone lead or faff about with fingerprint readers (and waste battery life each time).

Aside from ease of use of a dumb piece of RFID equipped plastic, another scenario in a busy transport hub/shop/other service location:

I drop/someone steals contactless payment card from my hands; outcome - I shrug shoulders, cancel card, get new card, in the meantime use a different card/cash.

I drop/someone steals phone from my hands; outcome - I have to work out what was on there, what might have been compromised, attempt to remotely nuke phone (need to find another handset/computer to do this ASAP), have to get phone replaced, have to restore data to new device, change passwords as a precaution, in the meantime social life is curtailed (malicious actors might even manipulate it and cause further harm at various levels), etc.

I'm reasonably happy with the dumb pieces of plastic as they permit me to independently sandbox the financial and personal data aspects.

 

[editor]

Aside from ease of use of a dumb piece of RFID equipped plastic, another scenario in a busy transport hub/shop/other service location:

I drop/someone steals contactless payment card from my hands; outcome - I shrug shoulders, cancel card, get new card, in the meantime use a different card/cash.

I drop/someone steals phone from my hands; outcome - I have to work out what was on there, what might have been compromised, attempt to remotely nuke phone (need to find another handset/computer to do this ASAP), have to get phone replaced, have to restore data to new device, change passwords as a precaution, in the meantime social life is curtailed (malicious actors might even manipulate it and cause further harm at various levels), etc.

I'm reasonably happy with the dumb pieces of plastic as they permit me to independently sandbox the financial and personal data aspects.

Yep. Getting your phone out multiple times in crowded places presents a pointless risk when your card does the job equally well (well, better, actually seeing as it won't run out of power halfway through).

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It takes me nano seconds to plonk my card on a reader, and it sure seems easier than having to pull out my phone and hope I don't snag the earphone lead or faff about with fingerprint readers (and waste battery life each time).

You carry your card around with you? It's super quick to plonk your iPhone down and the finger print reader is the best around so no problems at all.[emoji16]

 

[mwgdrwg]

One advantage of a card though is that you can take money out with it. Old school I know, but there are certainly times it still comes in handy!

I've taken money out with the Nat West app on my phone a few times when I've forgotten my wallet. It's been possible for at least a year.

 

[editor]

You carry your card around with you? It's super quick to plonk your iPhone down and the finger print reader is the best around so no problems at all.[emoji16]

Yes, it's also my Oyster Card and - get this - it needs no batteries and can be used everywhere.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

the finger print reader is the best around so no problems at all.[emoji16]

Like hell—it fails half the time for me now. Some recent update made it rubbish.

 

[peterkro]

Like hell—it fails half the time for me now. Some recent update made it rubbish.

Bit odd mine works every time,mind you I'm to lazy to input both thumbs so I often pick it up in my right hand and then need to transfer to left to unlock it,though I've never had it refuse to unlock.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Bit odd mine works every time,mind you I'm to lazy to input both thumbs so I often pick it up in my right hand and then need to transfer to left to unlock it,though I've never had it refuse to unlock.

It seems to be a million times more sensitive to grease now. If I wipe both thumb and touchpad before trying it's generally fine, but it regularly refuses if I don't. It definitely was not like this a few months ago. I'm thinking of turning touch ID off completely.

 

[peterkro]

It seems to be a million times more sensitive to grease now. If I wipe both thumb and touchpad before trying it's generally fine, but it regularly refuses if I don't. It definitely was not like this a few months ago. I'm thinking of turning touch ID off completely.

It's odd I never really wanted that feature but it seems to work well,it pisses me off that after 24hours (I think it is) you have to use the pin but aside from that it works fine and mine is jailbroken so you'd expect it to be more flaky than the stock ones.I don't treat it very well as far as keeping it clean goes but I've never had to wipe it before use (something that's not true about my debit card I have to pull it out and wipe often before it works.

 

[Spymaster]

I've never stood in a queue without my phone in my hand (I doubt many people do tbh) ...

Eh?

Why would you have your phone in your hand in a queue?

 

[grit]

Like hell—it fails half the time for me now. Some recent update made it rubbish.

It's flawless on my 6.

 

[editor]

Eh?

Why would you have your phone in your hand in a queue?

Because he's an Apple fan.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Eh?

Why would you have your phone in your hand in a queue?

Because waiting in a queue is often a good time to check emails, send a message to someone etc

 

[editor]

Because waiting in a queue is often a good time to check emails, send a message to someone etc

You don't think it's a bit odd to claim that you've never ever stood in any queue without a phone in your hand?

 

[Spymaster]

Because waiting in a queue is often a good time to check emails, send a message to someone etc

Occasionally maybe, but always?

That's pretty strange. There are quite a few things I'd be doing rather than texting or emailing people. More often than not I'll be listening to music with the phone tucked away in a pocket, talking to someone, or reading something.

 

[joustmaster]

I pretty much always check my phone when queuing. Even if its just a couple of people in front of me

 

[editor]

I pretty much always check my phone when queuing. Even if its just a couple of people in front of me

Even at the bar?

 

[joustmaster]

Even at the bar?

yes

 

[editor]

yes

Good luck getting served at a busy bar then.

 

[joustmaster]

Good luck getting served at a busy bar then.

I've never had a problem

 

[editor]

I've never had a problem

Bit hard to catch the bar staff's eye if you're staring at your phone the whole time, and it can be considered a bit rude. I know who I'd serve first. The person looking at me.

 

[joustmaster]

Bit hard to catch the bar staff's eye if you're staring at your phone the whole time, and it can be considered a bit rude. I know who I'd serve first. The person looking at me.

I'm talking about queuing, not actually ordering the pints.