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I’ll probably get the new SE if I upgrade. I’m not looking forward to losing a headphone jack, but I could use the extra space for all the apps everyone wants me to install.
 
The SE is a good phone. The OH has one and it's so easy to use one handed as its so dinky but as fast as my 11, plus the touch ID means yo don't have to have an uncovered face to look at it, which is a bonus nowadays.
 
The home pod mini seems like another miss to me. If the whole point was to compete with lower price rivals then at £99 it’s still twice the price of the equivalent 4th Gen Echo Dot.

I can’t see why anyone other than the hardest of hardcore Apple fans would get one.

Its never going to compete on price, its Apple after all. I'd actually consider one if it wasn't so locked into the Apple ecosphere. Its not like Apple are world leaders in voice assistance, are they?
Does anyone use siri for anything but a comedy moment. Sadly Amazon's efforts apart from the original echo are a bit shit from a sound quality perspective.
 
Its never going to compete on price, its Apple after all. I'd actually consider one if it wasn't so locked into the Apple ecosphere. Its not like Apple are world leaders in voice assistance, are they?
Does anyone use siri for anything but a comedy moment. Sadly Amazon's efforts apart from the original echo are a bit shit from a sound quality perspective.

Sure, if they delivered something radically different and nicer to use, then fine. But these things are all largely the same.

But even so, they're not even competing on performance because they can't even be linked to Spotify which after all has the largest market share of music streaming subscribers. They seem to be going after the Apple Music subscriber base and charging twice the price. It just seems like a missed opportunity to me.
 
Does anyone use siri for anything but a comedy moment.
I don’t. Nor Cortana on my laptop. It’s not a Star Trek interface yet, so I don’t see the point.

I’m put in mind of an incident in a pub in Kippen where a guy at the bar was asking Google on his phone for directions to Girvan (a town in Ayrshire). The phone kept telling him it was more than 6000 miles to Durban and how to set off.

“No, GIR-VAN” he annunciated in a louder and louder voice, getting more and more irritated.

A Polish guy who’d been talking on his phone interrupted his own conversation to interject:

“Why you don’t just type it?”

A life lesson in one lunchtime incident.
 
The SE is a good phone. The OH has one and it's so easy to use one handed as its so dinky but as fast as my 11, plus the touch ID means yo don't have to have an uncovered face to look at it, which is a bonus nowadays.
Cheers. I have the old style SE and love it. I want a phone sized phone, not a tablet. But fancy the 64gb size of the new one.
 
I can’t get my head around the sizes anymore, how they all compare to my (still the best phone they’ve ever made imho) 6s. I’ll go visit a store at some point and give them all a fondle :D
 
iphone 2021 ?

Back in the day Psion jumped from the 3 to the 5 as apparently 4 is an unlucky number in some regions (Japan?)
Phonetically, 4 sounds like the word for death in Chinese. Garmin skipped 4 in their Fenix watch range a few years ago for similar reasons I think.
 
Well I’ve ordered one.

I’m sure someone will be along shortly to tell me I’ve been ripped of and that I’m literally worse than Hitler for buying a new iPhone to replace my ailing iPhone, but it is what it is and I’m looking forward to getting one that isn’t struggling along on 80% battery life.
 
I would have pre ordered a pro if i wasn’t mid solicitor hell with a house move so not sure how much I will need to pay them and whatever other stupid fees on completion day. Once that’s out the way I’ll get one.
 
So with the release of the 12, iPhone 11 takes a price drop and as far as I can see an 11 with 128MB is around £700 vs. a 12 with same memory for around £900.

Better screen, 5G, maybe more battery life, all of those seem like things I could live without, but how do you put a value on the longer anticipated lifespan of a phone with a much faster processor? In 4 years time will an 11 be slow and clunky on the latest iOS whereas a 12 might still have 2 years of acceptably brisk performance still in it? I don’t know?

What might the resale values look like if upgrading in 3 or 4 years from now?
 
Resale values won’t change much when the new ones nearly always come in at the same price as the old one was selling for the day before.
 
So with the release of the 12, iPhone 11 takes a price drop and as far as I can see an 11 with 128MB is around £700 vs. a 12 with same memory for around £900.

Better screen, 5G, maybe more battery life, all of those seem like things I could live without, but how do you put a value on the longer anticipated lifespan of a phone with a much faster processor? In 4 years time will an 11 be slow and clunky on the latest iOS whereas a 12 might still have 2 years of acceptably brisk performance still in it? I don’t know?

What might the resale values look like if upgrading in 3 or 4 years from now?
fwiw, I’m using an old 6s (5 years old now) and it runs the very latest version of iOS quite happily with no lag, slowdown or apparent loss of performance from the day I bought it. All I’ve had to do was replace the battery just over a year ago. Apple has many faults but in tech terms they support their kit for a long time.
 
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fwiw, I’m using an old 6s (5 years old now) and it runs the very latest version of iOS quite happily with no lag, slowdown or apparent loss of performance from the day I bought it. All I’ve had to do was replace the battery just over a year ago. Apple has many faults but in tech terms they support their kit for a long time.

Exactly.

If you look after it reasonably well, all the iPhones I've had apart from one still work. (The one that is now dead was smashed when I got given it and I seemed to double down on smashing it more for some reason. )

Apple release new phones so often, new becomes a bargain very quickly. Reliability is such, I'd consider myself very unlucky to get a faulty one from non-commercial ebay sellers.
 
Apple is part of USB-IF and is partially responsible for USB-C, it's also worth noting Intels Thunderbolt 3 (Apple did a lot of work on Thunderbolt then handed it on to Intel to develop further ) is far superior to USB-C but it is seamlessly backwards compatible with it giving the best of both worlds universal as USB-C and twice as fast and with daisy chaining abilities with Thunderbolt.Standard on modern Macs and making headway in better specced PC's.
Just to update you on that:

 
Yeah, lightning is too long in the tooth now. I can't see it being in the next set of phones.

I suppose sticking with a format does give 3rd party vendors some chance to make things sure in the knowlege it will last for a while and not doom any product in seconds. That does something for the landfill at least.

Plus, lets be real here, USB-C isn't exactly the best version of USB ever made. Cables for this are a bit of a nightmare.
The cost of some of the cables for USB-C are insane, the Oculous Quest 2 USB-C cable to allow you to use it as a headset for PC VR games, its $89, its a copper fiber combo so it can in use charge.
 
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