Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[editor]

Wired headphones? Get into the 21st century Grandad!

As for the notch Really, who cares?

Do you use wireless headphones when you're sound engineering? If not why not?
Why are you celebrating something that forces consumers to spend more money and that is more wasteful? Why are you celebrating something that gives consumers less choice and uses more energy? Oh yes. Apple.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Do you use wireless headphones when you're sound engineering? If not why not?

Because latency. Which is a non issue for listening to music on a phone. If I could get rid of the cable I trip over/walk away form the desk with it still attached to me every bloody gig ( ), I'd do so in a heartbeat.

Why are you celebrating something that forces consumers to spend more money and that is more wasteful? Why are you celebrating something that gives consumers less choice and uses more energy? Oh yes. Apple.

I'm not exactly celebrating, it's just not really an issue for me with regards to listening to tines on my phone. If I want to use a wired pair I stick on the adapter. If not, the choice of wireless ones out there is pretty cool nowadays. No big deal.

*shrugs*

 

[editor]

Because latency. Which is a non issue for listening to music on a phone. If I could get rid of the cable I trip over/walk away form the desk with it still attached to me every bloody gig o), I'd do so in a heartbeat.


I'm not exactly celebrating, it's just not really an issue for me with regards to listening to tines on my phone. If I want to use a wired pair I stick on the adapter. If not, the choice of wireless ones out there is pretty cool nowadays. No big deal.

*shrugs*

The Apple Reality Distortion Effect lives on! Now - be REALLY honest here. Would you prefer it if iPhone came with USB-C *and* a headphone jack? And if so, why?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The Apple Reality Distortion Effect lives on! Now - be REALLY honest here. Would you prefer it if iPhone came with USB-C *and* a headphone jack? And if so, why?

USB C, couldn't give a shit.The day I get excited about a charging connector I'll put a gun to my head

Headphone jack - would make my life a tiny bit easier in that it would be one less adapter to have in my bag at work for the times I plug my phone in for background/test music. But as said bag contains audio adapters of pretty much every type imaginable and thus weighs a shitload as it is, carrying one tiny extra really isn't much of a deal.

For casual listening/wandering/travelling wireless headphones are the way to go.

 

[editor]

Headphone jack - would make my life a tiny bit easier in that it would be one less adapter to have in my bag at work for the times I plug my phone in for background/test music.

So you would prefer to have a headphone socket, but still feel obliged to call anyone else who expresses the same sentiment, 'grandad'.

 

[cybershot]

That notch remains extra-fugly. And if this is progress, I'm out.

Misleading picture on so many counts. Not a new model phone, battery is also much better on the X from last year than home button phones (Still lasts me at least one a half days almost 12 months later, admittedly not a massively heavy user) and user discretion if they want to lug a power block that size around with them. Much smaller ones will give a decent enough charge to the phone and also charge your wireless headphones, so in fact, you'd be carrying less and smaller wires with a more later phone, so some progress has been made! (unless you're an audiophile using wired £xxx headphones, then fair enough)

 

[editor]

Misleading picture on so many counts. Not a new model phone, battery is also much better on the X from last year than home button phones (Still lasts me at least one a half days almost 12 months later, admittedly not a massively heavy user) and user discretion if they want to lug a power block that size around with them. Much smaller ones will give a decent enough charge to the phone and also charge your wireless headphones, so in fact, you'd be carrying less and smaller wires with a more later phone, so some progress has been made! (unless you're an audiophile using wired £xxx headphones, then fair enough)

So you'd prefer your iPhone to not have a headphone socket?

 

[cybershot]

Why are you celebrating something that gives consumers less choice and uses more energy? Oh yes. Apple.

The thing is, every decent Android phone will be going down this route sooner or later anyway. Only the cheapo models won't.

 

[editor]

The thing is, every decent Android phone will be going down this route sooner or later anyway. Only the cheapo models won't.

So the new Note and Samsung 9 aren't 'decent phones'?

 

[cybershot]

So you'd prefer your iPhone to not have a headphone socket?

It honestly doesn't bother me now I've got used to it, and wireless headphones are less restrictive when on the move, especially on trains and lugging bags around and the batteries are sufficient even on cheapo £15-£20 pairs to last a full working day listening to music. Pros and cons for both, but it's not a deal breaker on the phone I get.

 

[cybershot]

So the new Note and Samsung 9 aren't 'decent phones'?

Sooner or later means I am not comparing against current models.

 

[cybershot]

So you'd prefer your iPhone to not have a headphone socket?

what make and model headphones do you use when on the move, and how much is the RRP?

 

[editor]

It honestly doesn't bother me now I've got used to it, and wireless headphones are less restrictive when on the move, especially on trains and lugging bags around and the batteries are sufficient even on cheapo £15-£20 pairs to last a full working day listening to music. Pros and cons for both, but it's not a deal breaker on the phone I get.

They're a lot more restrictive when they run out of juice and you're miles from home though.

Imagine a crazy world where you can have wireless headphones *and* a headphone jack for headphones that never ever run out of battery and sound better than their wireless equivalents? That world is possible, even if Apple don't want you to have it.

 

[editor]

what make and model headphones do you use when on the move, and how much is the RRP?

What on earth has that got to do with anything?

 

[cybershot]

They're a lot more restrictive when they run out of juice and you're miles from home though.

Imagine a crazy world where you can have wireless headphones *and* a headphone jack for headphones that never ever run out of battery and sound better than their wireless equivalents? That world is possible, even if Apple don't want you to have it.

We've all had this discussion numerous times in every other phone thread, so I'm not going to repeat myself on the pros and cons, or the very easy and very cheap workarounds for a scenario where you'll be listening to music endlessly, and also no doubt running out of juice on your phone anyway!

 

[cybershot]

What on earth has that got to do with anything?

I want to know just how brilliant a quality of headphones you use so I can compare the quality against my cheap and nasty bluetooth ones.

ETA: I mean sound quality, not build quality.

 

[editor]

I want to know just how brilliant a quality of headphones you use so I can compare the quality against my cheap and nasty bluetooth ones.

ETA: I mean sound quality, not build quality.

Pound for pound, Bluetooth headphones clearly cost more because they need batteries/electronics etc on top of the drivers. That's rather obvious no?

 

[skyscraper101]

To be really honest, having switched to Airpods now I really couldn't imagine a better phone to headphone experience. They sync virtually perfectly, and detect when I put them in and take them out of my ears, and the tapping function to skip back and forward is brilliant.

Most people, myself included, don't need monitor engineer levels of audio experience and zero latency when doing about their day. In fact I prefer not to have the outside world completely blocked out when I'm walking around the streets. The only time I ever want that is if I'm on a plane, and that is less than 0.5% of my life.

The lack of a headphone port has really just become a non issue, and even if I did want to plug in some wired cans, the little adaptor serves that purpose no sweat.

 

[cybershot]

Pound for pound, Bluetooth headphones clearly cost more because they need batteries/electronics etc on top of the drivers. That's rather obvious no?

I don't care about cost. I will buy a pair and send them back under distance selling regs and do a multiple person sound test between those, a few pairs I have, including Airpods (work, don't ask..)

 

[editor]

I don't care about cost.

Lucky you.

 

[cybershot]

Lucky you.

Missed the bit, where I said I'd send them back! I'm not rich. I;m offering to do a sound quality experiment with real people who do and don't give a shit about music bit rates etc.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I don't listen to music through my phone, so Rumpole editor can drop that argument. Will be getting the XS Max for me and an XR for BB1's birthday pressie, she does use headphones and has never once expressed any concern about using the jack on her 7.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

So you would prefer to have a headphone socket, but still feel obliged to call anyone else who expresses the same sentiment, 'grandad'.

Well, no, I think I was fairly clear in saying that I don't really give a shit anymore.

 

[mrs quoad]

That notch remains extra-fugly. And if this is Apple, I'm out.

Fify.

 

[Mr Retro]

When will they actually be in the shops?

 

[planetgeli]

Anyone mentioned the 'top notch' of this new shit costs £1499?

Who the fuck pays that? Besides cybershot obviously.

Watch out. I've just got a Samsung Galaxy S6 and I'm prepared to use it.

Once I find out how it works.

 

[danny la rouge]

When will they actually be in the shops?

Friday.

 

[cybershot]

Anyone mentioned the 'top notch' of this new shit costs £1499?

Who the fuck pays that? Besides cybershot obviously.

Wrong

 

[planetgeli]

Wrong

No, the top notch of this shit definitely costs £1499.

I done my research.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I’m more interested in the computational photography stuff they announced, though the details seemed a little vague.