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i've got a 3.5 year old iphone 6... works just fine, no noticeable lag using it and still get a day out of the battery but will definitely be getting a new one put in for £25.
don't really see any need to spend £700 - £800 just to have the headphone jack removed.

I've got over the headphone jack since upgrading to an X. I have 2 sets of cheap wireless headphones, and they are fine. In fact it's liberating to not have wires going from my head to my pocket or wherever.

I'd agree that if your 6 is working well, there's not really much reason to upgrade unless you want the new camera features. I think the 8 has similar camera lenses to the X, whilst not worth the full cost on it's own however, the camera is stunning, and a well noticeable and worthwhile reason to upgrade.
 
I've got over the headphone jack since upgrading to an X. I have 2 sets of cheap wireless headphones, and they are fine. In fact it's liberating to not have wires going from my head to my pocket or wherever.

I'd agree that if your 6 is working well, there's not really much reason to upgrade unless you want the new camera features. I think the 8 has similar camera lenses to the X, whilst not worth the full cost on it's own however, the camera is stunning, and a well noticeable and worthwhile reason to upgrade.
I'd never get over losing a headphone jack. Wireless headphones are a fucking pain.
 
wireless headphones are fucking ace in a lot of situations, and i already use them with my 6, but the majority of the time my phone is being plugged into various sound systems via the jack connector... solid, reliable, fuck using bluetooth for that.

as for the camera side of things, the 6's camera is good enough for snappy snap crap and the LX100 i bought with the money i saved by not upgrading last year pisses on most smartphone camera offerings, if not all.
 
wireless headphones are fucking ace in a lot of situations, and i already use them with my 6, but the majority of the time my phone is being plugged into various sound systems via the jack connector... solid, reliable, fuck using bluetooth for that.

An adapter comes with the phone!
 
I had the same thought about clinging onto my iphone 6 for as long as possible, and had a new battery put in it (a 3rd party one granted, because the apple deal wasn't available when I did it), however despite the improvement in battery I still regularly find my phone turning off due to low battery an hour or two before I go to bed, this is with me avoiding using apps that use battery life (although granted I use bluetooth headphones, which probably kills batteries, but then I don't want to use them if I'm going for a day out as I don't want it to kill my battery so I can use maps etc). I also noticed that my GF's iphone 7 uses 20-25% in the time mine uses 40-50%

Also I can see my iPhone getting ready to have hardware problems soon, just little things like, I can't listen to an album on Music, because it keeps skipping songs, or when I turn the phone back on I get messages coming through for about 15 mins afterward despite the fact I've already read them. Also the screen is starting to go purple in one corner, its barely noticeable right now, so if I trade it in, the person assessing probably wont notice it. In a couple of months, they definitely will. And I know there's other phones in the market, and actually some of those are probably more suited to stuff I use at home, like my google home. But apps wise, I'm heavily invested in the apple ecosystem, all my freinds use imessage and have iphones, so some of the iOS features are really handy.

So I'm now debating whether to save money and get an iPhone 7 (which I'd want the 128gb one), or the 64gb 8..... its not that I want the extra storage in the 7, its that I don't want to drop from what I currently use down to 32gb. I mean, really I think I'm pretty set on the iPhone 8..... but its just working out the cheapest way of getting it on a monthly payment plan, and weighing up the pros and cons of applecare.

These are my workings out so far if anyones interested, although they don't take into account the cost of my contract.

iPhone 6 trade in - £125



Upgrade program - iPhone 8 + AppleCare 2 years

£69 upfront

20 monthly payments - £37.95

Total - £828

Total offset with trade in - £703 (total over 20 months - £35.15)

(Option to upgrade to new model after 11 months)





0% Finance Deal - iPhone 8 - AppleCare 2 Years

£0 Upfront

24 Monthly Payments - £39.75

Total - £828

Total offset with trade in - £703 (total over 24 months - £29.30)





0% Finance Deal - iPhone 8- No Apple care

Total - £699

24 months - £33.56

Offset with Trade in (£574) - £23.92 per month (Over 24 months)





iPhone 7 with AppleCare 2 years on Finance 2 years

Total - £778

£37.35 for 24 months

Offset with trade in £653 - £27.21 for 24 Months)



Phone 7 - 2 Year Finance (no applecare)

Total - £649

24 months @ £31.16

Offset with trade in - £524 - £21.83 for 24 Months
 
wireless headphones are fucking ace in a lot of situations, and i already use them with my 6, but the majority of the time my phone is being plugged into various sound systems via the jack connector... solid, reliable, fuck using bluetooth for that.

I mean at home, all except one of my speakers is wireless and I'm planning on changing that soon anyway. I use bluetooth headphones, and keep the charging cable for those in a little pouch attached to my keys, and there's plenty of room for both the adapted and a wired backup set of headphones. Plus I either use a little bluetooth adapted in my car, or the USB cable these days. So whilst a year ago I thought it was a pisstake, nowadays its not something that bothers me so much
 
keep the charging cable for those in a little pouch attached to my keys, and there's plenty of room for both the adapted and a wired backup set of headphones.

Interested in the size of this pouch please.

Any chance of a pic! DM it if you'd rather not side track the thread.

Thanks
 
isnt the whole applecare on mobiles pointless? i thought they'd agreed that a phone has to be covered for 2 years anyway or its not fit for purpose, in this case lasting the length of your contract...
 
isnt the whole applecare on mobiles pointless? i thought they'd agreed that a phone has to be covered for 2 years anyway or its not fit for purpose, in this case lasting the length of your contract...

Yeah, I'm very much in two minds. But it does mean if you break the phone in your applecare period, its £79 just to get a replacement one, instead of faffing. Its also got reduced repair costs for accidental damage. So for £3-4 a month on top of my monthly payment, it seems fairly ok to me. I mean its a pint less a month really.
 
isnt the whole applecare on mobiles pointless? i thought they'd agreed that a phone has to be covered for 2 years anyway or its not fit for purpose, in this case lasting the length of your contract...

It’s the accidental damage cover that you’re buying. Plain old failure is indeed covered by statutory rights.
 
The iPhone 8 also has wireless charging, which I like the idea of it, but I tend to put my phones in industrial cases so I don't break them, which I think would render that useless.

Basically I'm on a £20 a month mobile phone contract for a year, but its sim only. I would like a new phone, but I'm not prepared to pay more than £50 a month all in with a contract. If I get an iPhone 8 (with applecare) on finance for 24 months and deducted the value of my phone trade in across that, it works out at £29.30 a month, so, £49.30 a month all in (inc my contract). So its very tempting.

But then the iphone upgrade program is a little more pricey, but you pay the handset off in 20 months, and you're allowed to upgrade to a new model after 11 months..... That comes in at £55.15 a month all in inc contract, and you have to have apple care on that.

Or I can just bun off applecare and buy the phone over 24 months, offset against my trade in that would work out at £44 a month including contract


Doing similar things for an iPhone 7 is only a couple of quid cheaper a month, and the upgrade program isn't available.

Hmm..... decisions. Really I need to decide if applecare is worth it.
Applecare on the upgrade program means you can afford to smash your phone screen twice over a 12 month period without having to pay shit loads for a replacement screen each time. Means you can bin off the massive case that stops wireless charging from working.
 
Does anyone know whether the John Lewis 2 year guarantees are actually any good?

I'm going to ring up my home insurance, I'm pretty sure I've got personal item cover for accidental damage with them, and if I buy from John Lewis, then its 2 year guarantee anyway. I think they do finance too.

Edit. Ah no, its 14.9% APR on john lewis credit.

So thinking about it, if its covered on my home insurance for damage, loss, theft anyway, and the sale of goods act covers manufacturers faults, applecare seems pointless doesn't it?
 
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Does anyone know whether the John Lewis 2 year guarantees are actually any good?

I'm going to ring up my home insurance, I'm pretty sure I've got personal item cover for accidental damage with them, and if I buy from John Lewis, then its 2 year guarantee anyway. I think they do finance too.

Edit. Ah no, its 14.9% APR on john lewis credit.

So thinking about it, if its covered on my home insurance for damage, loss, theft anyway, and the sale of goods act covers manufacturers faults, applecare seems pointless doesn't it?

This has been my outlook on it, but then I've never had to call onto it, and if I did, how much would it effect my home insurance going forward!

Also worth increasing the amount of cover for items you have on you when away from the house. I haven't increased mine since getting the X, which I should really do as that alone is worth more than what I've currently got it set at.

Also take your excess into consideration, if it's set to ~£300ish, is it worth claiming on for your phone?

I guess you'd still need to do the math.
 
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An adapter comes with the phone!

a jack comes with my phone.

Owing to the global supremacy of Sods Law the adapter goes missing just when you need it and the after market split charger/headphone jacks are utterly shit.

Worst thing Apple have ever designed into a phone. I use mine like pesh and it's a massive pain in the hole.

I'm a fanboi too. I'd be highly unlikely to buy anything else other than Apple. Other people can get what they like.
 
Yeah, I'm very much in two minds. But it does mean if you break the phone in your applecare period, its £79 just to get a replacement one, instead of faffing. Its also got reduced repair costs for accidental damage. So for £3-4 a month on top of my monthly payment, it seems fairly ok to me. I mean its a pint less a month really.
Some banks offer cheap accidental damage phone cover too.
 
I hope not because having to charge up earphones just to get - what five fucking hours - is absolutely fucking shit. It's pointlessly wasteful in resources and energy too.

Mine last me a day off a 30 min charge roughly.... But bluetooth headphones could be better generally. The apple ones look like absolute shite.
 
Mine last me a day off a 30 min charge roughly.... But bluetooth headphones could be better generally. The apple ones look like absolute shite.
Mine last forever without a charge and sound better than any comparable cordless one for the price. :)

And you're right about the Apple ones, They looking fucking ridiculous. I've already seen one guy scrambling around the floor of a tube carriage trying to find the one that just fell out of his ear.
 
Mine last forever without a charge and sound better than any comparable cordless one for the price. :)

And you're right about the Apple ones, They looking fucking ridiculous. I've already seen one guy scrambling around the floor of a tube carriage trying to find the one that just fell out of his ear.
Thats amazing.....

I've got a set of these, really impressed with them for the price.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-Earphones-TaoTronics-Headphones-Magnetic-Black/dp/B017I9CBPC
 
I wonder what the additional battery hit for the phone is when using Bluetooth headphones instead of wired ones?

5 Reasons not to buy Bluetooth headphones

Well I mean bluetooth will make a big difference, but my 6 is still chucking through regardless.

For example, I've just look at my phone, took it off charge at 8.20am, its now on 45% battery. I've made 2 short calls and sent quite a few messages. Maybe half hour of music via spotify. Thats about it.

Before I had the battery changed though, it would have been about 20% by now, and switching off in the next hour or so.
 
I’ve hardly noticed the hit at all on the x when using Bluetooth headphones and I also connect it to the car via Bluetooth. However the battery on the X for every day stuff is superb. I can get close to two days of a full charge.

Also repeat that charging the headphones takes about 30 mins. Got a pc at work. use the USB port there.

I must admit I recently purchased a plug adapter for my 4 way gangway that has 4 USB ports on it as switching around plugs or running out of space for stuff to charge bedside was getting ridiculous.
 
I’ve hardly noticed the hit at all on the x when using Bluetooth headphones and I also connect it to the car via Bluetooth. However the battery on the X for every day stuff is superb. I can get close to two days of a full charge.

Also repeat that charging the headphones takes about 30 mins. Got a pc at work. use the USB port there.

I must admit I recently purchased a plug adapter for my 4 way gangway that has 4 USB ports on it as switching around plugs or running out of space for stuff to charge bedside was getting ridiculous.
Yes, it's always brilliant when it's new! :)

But using bluetooth when you don't have to is bound to cause a hit in battery life.
Wireless headphones are just another thing that needs a charger/socket/cable for just precisely zero benefit to most people.
 
I must admit I recently purchased a plug adapter for my 4 way gangway that has 4 USB ports on it as switching around plugs or running out of space for stuff to charge bedside was getting ridiculous.

I'm seriously considering changing all the plug sockets in my house to ones with USB's fitted. USB Charging seems to be a bit of the norm now for gadgets.

Anyway, after looking at my options, what I thought was interest free from apple isn't actually interest free. So I've applied for a 30 month interest free credit card to buy it on instead, gonna buy from John lewis, and then buy applecare + with the money from the sale of my iphone six. Over 24 months should bring my monthly payments in at £29..... So with my contract, £49 a month for an iphone 8 on the equivalent of a 2 year contract. Damn sight better than about £65-70 which I'd have to pay 3 on contract.
 
I'm seriously considering changing all the plug sockets in my house to ones with USB's fitted. USB Charging seems to be a bit of the norm now for gadgets.

Anyway, after looking at my options, what I thought was interest free from apple isn't actually interest free. So I've applied for a 30 month interest free credit card to buy it on instead, gonna buy from John lewis, and then buy applecare + with the money from the sale of my iphone six. Over 24 months should bring my monthly payments in at £29..... So with my contract, £49 a month for an iphone 8 on the equivalent of a 2 year contract. Damn sight better than about £65-70 which I'd have to pay 3 on contract.

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iPhone Payments is Apple's interest-free financing scheme – it's now available for the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus (and will be for the iPhone X too when it comes out). This allows you to buy the phone for Apple's standard price but pay only a small amount upfront and then the rest in 20 monthly instalments.

You'll be credit-checked and will need to be accepted for what's technically an interest-free loan, though. Here's what it costs:

  • iPhone 8 – £69 upfront, then £31.50/mth for 20 months for the 64GB model (£39/mth for 256GB)
  • iPhone 8 Plus – £69 upfront, then £36.50/mth for 20 months for 64GB (£44/mth for 256GB)
Here's how to pay this way:

  1. Reserve the model you want – you can ONLY get iPhone Payments in store. To collect an iPhone 8 in store, you'll need to reserve it online.
  2. When you collect the phone, say you want to pay via iPhone Payments. You'll need to bring bank details, a valid photo ID and your current mobile plus other personal info – see Apple's website for a full list. You'll need to be a UK resident aged 18+, have a UK bank account and have lived in the UK for three or more years.
  3. If accepted (it could take up to an hour), you'll pay £69 upfront and the rest in 20 monthly instalments. Your loan will be with Barclays, the finance provider behind the scheme, at 0% APR. Monthly repayments are made by direct debit. If you don't keep up with them, Barclays would take the same action as any other loan provider – it could result in a mark on your credit file, for example.
 
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