Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[Sunray]

Been a while so people seem to have forgotten the feature are all really in iOS8 coupled with the new hardware make for a compelling upgrade package, especially for people like me on a iPhone 4.

This is especially true for the integration of iOS8 and multiple Apple devices. No more fiddling about switching on personal hotspot on the phone and then connecting to it on the iPad. Fully automatic as is the seamless doc editing thing. Software is where its at.

 

[Me76]

Does anyone know whether iOS 8 will work on a 4s and what the actual benefits are?

 

[Sunray]

Yes iOS8 will work on the 4S but there are restrictions on some features. Need to look at the Apple website for the low down.

It will be the last iOS upgrade for the 4S. Very tempting to get a 4S as they are fairly cheap but if I want to spend out on an upgrade I am tempted to go all the way to the top. Its a massive hike in features.

 

[peterkro]

Waiting for the o2 online shop to come back so I can pre-order. Got really tempted by the larger version but I think I'll have to play it safe and go for the smaller one, despite the additional draw of optical image stabilisation for the camera on the larger one.

Given the rapid advances over a number of years in smartphone tech, I'm quite pleased with myself for managing to get by with just 2 different phones in the last 6 years. Wonder how long I can make this one last.

Looks like O2 are offering me free phone on the same tariff with 12months lock in (16Gb smaller one) not a bad deal (business tariff).

 

[elbows]

The main thing missing from iOS 8 on the iPhone 4S is continuity/handshake stuff, which enables very easy switching of a task you are in the middle of from one device to another, and sharing things like calls, text messages and internet connectivity between iPhones, iPads and macs. Its mostly missing from some devices because of the kind of bluetooth the hardware needs to have to support this feature.

A lot of the new stuff is going to take 3rd party developers to embrace it before it becomes really useful, such as 3rd party notification bar stuff, custom keyboards. Or additional hardware such as smart home devices and health-related sensors.

There are some other bits and bobs too but I am mostly looking forward to the above, and also the ability to send little audio messages from the standard messages app.

 

[sim667]

Thats actually quite misleading, as many of the features it lists as "new" on the iphone, have been on previous incarnations for a number of years. Such as notification icons, cross app communication, typing suggestions, cloud backup.

 

[sim667]

To my shame, I have actually ordered an iphone 6.... true fanboi .

 

[editor]

Thats actually quite misleading, as many of the features it lists as "new" on the iphone, have been on previous incarnations for a number of years. Such as notification icons, cross app communication, typing suggestions, cloud backup.

The cross app stuff has always been shit on the iPhone though.

 

[sim667]

The cross app stuff has always been shit on the iPhone though.

But it was there.

The image is misleading, that's my point, as are most images that do the rounds that are anti apple when they launch a new product.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The cross app stuff has always been shit on the iPhone though.

Yeah, that's one area where Android has always been way ahead. They've said that iOS8 will be a big step forward though, not long to wait and see now.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Couple of questions about the 5C (daughter wants one for Christmas).

Is iOS 8 coming to the 5C, and how long is the 5C likely to be supported.

Apple only do an 8GB version now. Is this actually practical and of any use as a device (I have 16GB + an 8GB micdo SD card in my phone)

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Apple only do an 8GB version now. Is this actually practical and of any use as a device (I have 16GB + an 8GB micdo SD card in my phone)

Talk about artificially crippling a device!

You can of course get by with 8gb, it depends how many apps/games/music you want to store on the phone.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Talk about artificially crippling a device!

You can of course get by with 8gb, it depends how many apps/games/music you want to store on the phone.

It's not for me, but from her iPad use, I'm guessing there would be music and a few games, plus snapchat etc.

Seems like way too little memory!

 

[sim667]

Couple of questions about the 5C (daughter wants one for Christmas).

Is iOS 8 coming to the 5C, and how long is the 5C likely to be supported.

Apple only do an 8GB version now. Is this actually practical and of any use as a device (I have 16GB + an 8GB micdo SD card in my phone)

iOS 8 will be compatible.... generally speaking hardware is supported for about 3 years. The earliest iphone iOS 8 will support is the iphone 4s, which came out in 2011

As far as will 8GB of storage be enough, thats a bit like asking how long is a piece of string..... will should want music/videos etc etc on there..... if so then probably not, if not then probably yes..... I struggle with anything under 64gb because I like to have a fuckton of music on it.

 

[sim667]

Remember the OS takes up about 3-4gb iirc. An 8GB is really just for someone who wants a phone with a couple of games and a bit of facebook.

 

[Mojofilter]

They make 8GB iPhones? Wtf? I bet 8GB of extra storage costs Apple a matter of pence.

Their storage options really do take the piss.

 

[sim667]

I thought the smallest was 16gb..... there ya go, learn something new everday i guess.

 

[Crispy]

They make 8GB iPhones? Wtf? I bet 8GB of extra storage costs Apple a matter of pence.

Their storage options really do take the piss.

Only for the "cheap" range, ie. the 5C

 

[Mojofilter]

Only for the "cheap" range, ie. the 5C

It's interesting & slightly baffling that someone with such (presumably) basic requirements would even consider spending the amount of money that you'd need to, to get even the most basic iPhone.

 

[Crispy]

It's interesting & slightly baffling that someone with such (presumably) basic requirements would even consider spending the amount of money that you'd need to, to get even the most basic iPhone.

"Free" on contract

 

[Mojofilter]

"Free" on contract

That's still over £20 a month more than / nearly 3 times the price of my Mum's Moto G.

Madness :/

 

[editor]

That's still over £20 a month more than / nearly 3 times the price of my Mum's Moto G.

Madness :/

£32/month for two years. Crazy. And its £320 unlocked,

It's fair to say that there is no way on earth that is three times better than the Moto or that it can do three times as much (the same applies when compared to premium Android phones too).

 

[RedDragon]

U2 Removal Tool

As of tonight, iTunes users can delete the tracks more easily by clicking on this link, which takes them to a dedicated removal page for Songs of Innocence:
Guardian

 

[Fez909]

U2 Removal Tool

Came here to post that. Fucking hilarious

 

[RedDragon]

Charles's usual 5* impartial hands on review Guardian

 

[TitanSound]

Charles's usual 5* impartial hands on review Guardian

Only one con? And that's the price? Fucking hell

 

[mack]

T'net is awash with 5* reviews today - i just cannot believe how amazing this phone is!

 

[editor]

Charles's usual 5* impartial hands on review Guardian

The guy's an embarrassment.

The comments are, as ever, the best place to look in one of his ludicrously biased Apple product 'reviews':

am literally stunned that an Apple device gets a 5 star review from Charles Arthur.

"Anyone with smaller hands may disagree, and struggle with the width of the handset - in which case the smaller iPhone 5S and 5C are still on sale."

Shameless!

This is ridiculous - five articles on the front page of The Guardian website on iPhone 6. This might be a good, or even a great phone, but honestly, this is shameful marketing overkill. The Guardian is a Pullitzer Prize winning newspaper, not the local free-sheet. Absolutely shameful.

This is why I love the Guardian, gushing reviews about phones and outfits costing £600 alongside articles about poverty and hunger.

 

[belboid]

The guy's an embarrassment.

what do you mean? It's clearly the bestest phone ever. Cos it's got, uhhh, really nicely rounded edges.

 

[editor]

what do you mean? It's clearly the bestest phone ever. Cos it's got, uhhh, really nicely rounded edges.

Rounded edges you say? Oh, I take it all back. That's real innovation.