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iOS7 has lots of features that drain the battery.

Its been dying well early recently but I've switched a lot of the bad boys off. Will see how it goes.
 
Just started using facetime audio recently, why hasn't this been hyped as a big feature? I've been using it to call family in Canada and the quality is incredible. HD audio, absolutely no interruptions on 3g.

Think I'll use it when calling anyone with an iPhone from now on. :cool:
 
Just started using facetime audio recently, why hasn't this been hyped as a big feature? I've been using it to call family in Canada and the quality is incredible. HD audio, absolutely no interruptions on 3g.

Not used facetime, but I've found 3g is to flakey in most places to guarantee decent call quality using VOIP. You don't notice if the odd web page takes another 1/2 second to load, but you do on a voice call.
 
OK my phone has now got 83% left and I charged it yesterday afternoon.

This is a lot better to the totally flat that I was getting.
 
Not used facetime, but I've found 3g is to flakey in most places to guarantee decent call quality using VOIP. You don't notice if the odd web page takes another 1/2 second to load, but you do on a voice call.

I use FT regularly and it works fine, I also use Skype which works well but FT is just built in so it's more convenient. Not really noticed any difference in call audio quality between the two over 3G tbh...
 
Very cute :), but only a true moron can lose a game of connect four on a 5x5 grid. Every game will be a draw.

Hehe innit just thought it was an interesting take on hardware/software. Reminded me of the Evernote peek app that came out just after the smart cover in terms of cleverness.
 
This article suggests that the new iPhones aren't proving such a big hit as previous models/

Apple's Latest iPhones Could Be the Most Disappointing in the Company's History

After Apple debuted its two new iPhones last month (the 5s and 5c) shares sold off. Evidently, investors didn't have much faith in Apple's new devices -- and now it's looking increasingly likely that they're right.

Apple's cheaper model, the iPhone 5c, appears to be selling worse than the company had anticipated, while the iPhone 5s is having stability issues. With Apple whiffing on its latest devices, it strengthens the case for handset makers that use Google's Android, including Samsung .

It's clear that the iPhone 5c is just too expensive

Before Apple announced the iPhone 5c, most analysts had expected the phone to sell off contract for a just a few hundred dollars -- about the cost of Google's own Nexus 4. Although Apple has about 40% of the US smartphone market, it's getting obliterated in countries with developing economies, particularly in China, where Google's Android is dominant.

Rather than offer the iPhone 5c at $300 or even $400, Apple debuted the phone at a full $549 in the US -- over $700 in China. As many consumers in developing markets don't have the benefit of carrier subsidies, the iPhone 5c is out of their price range -- particularly when companies like Samsung are offering comparable handsets powered by Google's Android for much less.
Anyone suffered this?
Apple may have destroyed its biggest selling point
But more than iPhone 5c sales, reports of an unstable iPhone 5s could be greater cause for concern. Many consumers may purchase Apple's iPhone over a competing Samsung because of its unparalleled system stability -- well, maybe not for much longer.

There are reports that Apple's iPhone 5s is prone to the so-called "blue screen of death" -- the dreaded system crash that plagued Windows users for years. Analytics firm Crittercism claims that, according to its data, apps running on the iPhone 5s crash twice as often compared to earlier models.

That's hardly surprising. Apple's iPhone 5s sports a 64-bit processor, a step up from the 32-bit processors of prior models. Although it brings increased performance, older apps designed for a 32-bit processor might run into issues.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/10/13/apples-latest-iphones-could-be-the-most-disappoint/
 
New OS, new 64 bit processor. Developers will update, problem will go away. Blog writers will scrabble around for something else to fill their pages with "OMG Apple has lost it and is totally doomed" type stories. Apple will continue to sell millions of phones at a premium price to willing consumers and be the richest company on the planet.
 
New OS, new 64 bit processor. Developers will update, problem will go away. Blog writers will scrabble around for something else to fill their pages with "OMG Apple has lost it and is totally doomed" type stories. Apple will continue to sell millions of phones at a premium price to willing consumers and be the richest company on the planet.
I don't think anyone is saying that they're doomed, but you can't deny there have been some very un-Apple like developments of late.
 
The 5s has sold more in the last 4 weeks than the 5 did in its first two months. I don't think it's "the Most Disappointing in the Company's History"

As for the bluescreen, let's see how that gets addressed. If it's fixable in software, then it will be a blip and soon forgotten. If it's a hardware issue, then it's more serious.
 
I do not do gaming but I love the idea of everything being faster on the 5s than the 5c....and tomtom etc using the new processor and gyrowhizzery eventually??

There is also a tiny issue of my old "Oxford English Dictionary with audio" app which was orphaned and unsupported about three years ago...it works fine in ios7...is that the sort of thing that might get broken by 64 bittiness?
 
A shiny pound says it's software. Developers get access to the OS before it's released but not the hardware. Give it a month or so for them all to update and the problem will have gone.
 
The 5s has sold more in the last 4 weeks than the 5 did in its first two months. I don't think it's "the Most Disappointing in the Company's History"
Wasn't that was referring to the 5c sales which are reportedly 'dismal'?

I'm not surprised if its true, considering the stupid price.
 
A software update will soon sort the 'blue screen' app switching glitch.

My only other thought on the issue is were they being ironic with choice of blue. :D
 
Wasn't that was referring to the 5c sales which are reportedly 'dismal'?

I'm not surprised if its true, considering the stupid price.

No, just the 5s, compared to the 5

http://www.statisticbrain.com/iphone-5-sales-statistics/

Total number of iPhone 5s units sold 6,500,000
Number of iPhone 5 units sold in the first two months 5,150,000

The 5s went on sale on 20/09/13

You're right about the 5c, which is doing much less well

Total number of iPhone 5c units sold 2,600,000
 
Yeah, I don't quite get the point of the 5c, considering that they still sell the 4s. If they'd ditched that and had the 5c as the cheaper/entry phone it would have made more sense.
 
New OS, new 64 bit processor. Developers will update, problem will go away. Blog writers will scrabble around for something else to fill their pages with "OMG Apple has lost it and is totally doomed" type stories. Apple will continue to sell millions of phones at a premium price to willing consumers and be the richest company on the planet.

Crash rate from 1 to 2 % from what I last read. Anything under 5% is considered within industry standards of acceptable failure...
 
I don't think anyone is saying that they're doomed, but you can't deny there have been some very un-Apple like developments of late.

I certainly can deny that. Because I do not recognise an image of Apple where there was some magic period where they never made mistakes, had stability issues or sold product for the wrong price.

I will be trying to monitor the app crashing issues but it won't be easy, relying on 3rd party metrics that may not give me all the detail I need. Both in terms of judging the reality and how it may affect user happiness, I will need to know whether the additional crashes are being caused by a handful of widely used apps, or a broader range of apps. And whether its affecting specific hardware (i.e. 5S) or iOS 7 devices in general. Also whether its mostly down to apps that haven't received any updates to take account of iOS 7 yet.

If its a certain set of apps that are causing the issues then users may be inclined to blame those apps rather than Apple, and much will come down to how quickly those apps are updated to fix issues. Or whether the issues can be fixed at that level as opposed to it being a cockup on the OS level that Apple will need to fix. Worst case for Apple would be if there is a hardware issue they can't work around quickly, but I don't think I've seen anything that pointed in that directions specifically yet.

I haven't spent much time delving into the detail yet so its possible some of the above questions have already been answered, anyone know?

As for sales, as others have pointed out the 5S sold real well and its stupid to spin that into anything but a success. Not so for the 5C which hit no sweet spot for price, even in Apples universe of pricing.
 
I certainly can deny that. Because I do not recognise an image of Apple where there was some magic period where they never made mistakes, had stability issues or sold product for the wrong price.
Come on: Apple maps was one of the worst pieces of software they've ever released and made them a laughing stock.
 
I certainly can deny that. Because I do not recognise an image of Apple where there was some magic period where they never made mistakes, had stability issues or sold product for the wrong price.

I will be trying to monitor the app crashing issues but it won't be easy, relying on 3rd party metrics that may not give me all the detail I need. Both in terms of judging the reality and how it may affect user happiness, I will need to know whether the additional crashes are being caused by a handful of widely used apps, or a broader range of apps. And whether its affecting specific hardware (i.e. 5S) or iOS 7 devices in general. Also whether its mostly down to apps that haven't received any updates to take account of iOS 7 yet.

If its a certain set of apps that are causing the issues then users may be inclined to blame those apps rather than Apple, and much will come down to how quickly those apps are updated to fix issues. Or whether the issues can be fixed at that level as opposed to it being a cockup on the OS level that Apple will need to fix. Worst case for Apple would be if there is a hardware issue they can't work around quickly, but I don't think I've seen anything that pointed in that directions specifically yet.

I haven't spent much time delving into the detail yet so its possible some of the above questions have already been answered, anyone know?

As for sales, as others have pointed out the 5S sold real well and its stupid to spin that into anything but a success. Not so for the 5C which hit no sweet spot for price, even in Apples universe of pricing.

You don't recognize it because it's a lie, a mythology. Apple have always made products which haven't been amazing and occasionally crap under jobs and under others.

It's just that they've been extremely successful with a very small number of products that people forget (and conveniently for those with an unhealthy dislike of Apple) that fact.
 
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