TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
Halp.
GF got a 5 yesterday and just sent me this
GF got a 5 yesterday and just sent me this
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electroplated
off minehead
sounds like it's been setup as a POP account instead of IMAP perhaps?
souljacker
innit
My wifi is fine since the update
Mine isnt. Slow to connect, can't see networks right next me even though my laptop and android can.
There was nothing in the release notes saying there was a wifi fix either. Maybe I've got a faulty one.
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
Indeed. Turns out she is trying to connect to an old school pop3.demon.co.uk server.
Just found an article on Google on how to set it up. What a faff.
http://www.farpoint.co.uk/index.php/knowledge/article/setting_up_demon_email_in_mail._the_right_way
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
Yeah maybe..... im on 6.1.1 and have no wifi probs now.
God. Demon, ay?
My mum's been having similar struggles. afaict, it's pretty much the only mainstream mail provider that's a total f***ing pain in the arse. (Or, at least, I've set up hotmail, googlemail and my university's webmail with no troubles at all. Three of us've tried to get Demon working using multiple websites / resources, as of yet to no avail... I've ended up setting my mum up with a me.com website, to save fucking around and to get something (anything!) working.)
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Yeah? Was never a fan of PaC games but on a touch screen it could work nicely...
Field Agent: an app that PAYS you to use it. Basically you get a list of "jobs" that need doing within a specified radius of your location, you pick one and they pay you for doing it. They usually involve going to a shop or something, answering a few questions and taking a photo or two. Sometimes you might have to make a purchase, like a newspaper or some drinks in a bar, but you get compensated for it. Sometimes jobs come up that can be done at home. I've already made about £20 in the past three weeks!
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
So discovered today that if you have an exchange account set up on your iphone, you can remotely wipe your iphone with it (may have to be an admin).
As I had 2 work accounts on my iphone, I decided I didnt want an overzealous IT dept remotely wiping my iphone for shits and giggles, so have deleted them both.
Just a heads up for anyone who's a bit prang about stuff like that.
As I had 2 work accounts on my iphone, I decided I didnt want an overzealous IT dept remotely wiping my iphone for shits and giggles, so have deleted them both.
Just a heads up for anyone who's a bit prang about stuff like that.
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
That's pretty neat! I can see how you could create a charity version of that...
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
editor
hiraethified
This article raises a few good points:
Skeuomorphism Isn’t iOS’s Biggest Problem
Skeuomorphism Isn’t iOS’s Biggest Problem
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I very much doubt we'll see big changes, they'd have to re-write the entire OS from the ground up which aint gonna happen in a year (assuming any real change comes post Forstal). It'll be simpler looking icons, maybe a few tweaks to the notification centre (easy access to wifi toggles), perhaps something like easy reply for messaging and maybe a little more openness on app API's. Not expecting iOS to suddenly become as interesting as WebOS for instance...
elbows
Well-Known Member
There are few changes that would necessitate a complete rewrite of an OS from the ground up. You could change a lot as far as users are concerned without anything even remotely approaching such an effort.
Rather I suspect the main reason they wouldnt change too much in one go is not wanting to too radically change users familiarity with the system. That and not necessarily having too many wonderful ideas about how to make the OS substantially better than it is already.
I do not have high hopes for what new stuff we will get, but I think that ideally Apple would like to introduce several things that get people talking in a positive way and make it seem like they can still innovate and provide useful features. If they can pull something out of the hat, this would be a good year to do it given their Maps flop and other negative or stagnant stuff thats taken the shine off them. I've not seen any rumours that suggest they willcome out with something huge, but I would be moderately surprised if the WWDC passes without at least one thing being unveiled that gets people talking about more than icons & other UI changes, though not necessarily in a positive way.
Rather I suspect the main reason they wouldnt change too much in one go is not wanting to too radically change users familiarity with the system. That and not necessarily having too many wonderful ideas about how to make the OS substantially better than it is already.
I do not have high hopes for what new stuff we will get, but I think that ideally Apple would like to introduce several things that get people talking in a positive way and make it seem like they can still innovate and provide useful features. If they can pull something out of the hat, this would be a good year to do it given their Maps flop and other negative or stagnant stuff thats taken the shine off them. I've not seen any rumours that suggest they willcome out with something huge, but I would be moderately surprised if the WWDC passes without at least one thing being unveiled that gets people talking about more than icons & other UI changes, though not necessarily in a positive way.
Piers Gibbon
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just a quick update...I raved on this thread about the ijackit case that gave extra power to my ip4...well it turned out to be crap, first the recharging cable and all replacements were on/off permadodgy. Then it stopped charging the ip4 even when it had a charge. Fail.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
The new icons really are a mixed bag, some are very nice and better than the originals others...not.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Not quite the point I was making but there you go...
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Looking at the design, typography etc of iOS7 I find much to like but the colours. Really find them too fluorescent....
editor
hiraethified
But come on: there's loads and loads of third party icon sets that look far more polished and complete than this rag tag collection. And we are talking about the richest tech company in the universe with near unlimited resources and a reputation for the very best design,
If they're having trouble allocating enough time and resources to working out something as basic as the design of a straightforward icon set, then alarm bells really should be ringing, especially seeing as what we've got so far is so obviously influenced by their competitors.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I don't think those are final icons either. They're too inconsistent.
That chart is from Mashable btw in case anybody was wondering.
That chart is from Mashable btw in case anybody was wondering.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I would expect some of the icons to change before final release, but I would not be surprised if quite a lot of them remain the same.
I'm not sure I totally understand the consistency point, since the original ones were not exactly all utterly uniform in all important characteristics. Nor are their competitors.
And no, the icons do not set off my alarm bells. Nor am I surprised that some aspects of the design of iOS 7 resemble competitors. It's somewhat inevitable given that Apple do not operate in their own universe, boldly leading the way. They take many design cues from much broader design fashions of the day. They didn't invent the rounded rectangular buttons, drop shadows, gloss etc that featured in prior iOS versions and now look dated.
For me the story is not about Apple copying others in incorporating current trends into iOS, its that they've done it so late. They should have done it at least a year ago but they dropped the ball then and had to play catch-up, which involved needing to ditch someone high up in order to finally get with the times.
From what I have seen so far they have broadly done it right, and just need to tweak a few bits and bobs in order to maximise consistency. Many of the changes do resemble what Android in particular has done in recent years, but their greater control freakery & less fragmentation offers them the opportunity to ultimately get more consistency out of the look once the dust settles. They've also pushed a number of animations and interactions somewhat further than Android has, which will probably pay off just enough to allow them to hold onto the sizzle they need in order to sell premium products, no matter what the critics say right now.
Most of it is not innovative but I really don't expect Apple to seriously innovate more than a couple of times a decade. Like almost everyone else they suffer from a lack of ideas about what else to add to a now well established set of form factors. Don't believe the hype, just because they managed to crack the multitouch smartphone & tablet UI's before their competitors doesn't mean they can somehow repeat such tricks. Especially as much of that success was about their competitors sucking and stagnating as much as it was about Apple innovating - they had a wide open goal at the time and those days are gone. Nothing in iOS 7 seems to change the pattern of Apple failing to do certain services/data stuff as well as Google can, with both Siri and the 'Today' stuff they've added still failing to match up to what Google Now can do if you like that sort of thing.
I'm not sure I totally understand the consistency point, since the original ones were not exactly all utterly uniform in all important characteristics. Nor are their competitors.
And no, the icons do not set off my alarm bells. Nor am I surprised that some aspects of the design of iOS 7 resemble competitors. It's somewhat inevitable given that Apple do not operate in their own universe, boldly leading the way. They take many design cues from much broader design fashions of the day. They didn't invent the rounded rectangular buttons, drop shadows, gloss etc that featured in prior iOS versions and now look dated.
For me the story is not about Apple copying others in incorporating current trends into iOS, its that they've done it so late. They should have done it at least a year ago but they dropped the ball then and had to play catch-up, which involved needing to ditch someone high up in order to finally get with the times.
From what I have seen so far they have broadly done it right, and just need to tweak a few bits and bobs in order to maximise consistency. Many of the changes do resemble what Android in particular has done in recent years, but their greater control freakery & less fragmentation offers them the opportunity to ultimately get more consistency out of the look once the dust settles. They've also pushed a number of animations and interactions somewhat further than Android has, which will probably pay off just enough to allow them to hold onto the sizzle they need in order to sell premium products, no matter what the critics say right now.
Most of it is not innovative but I really don't expect Apple to seriously innovate more than a couple of times a decade. Like almost everyone else they suffer from a lack of ideas about what else to add to a now well established set of form factors. Don't believe the hype, just because they managed to crack the multitouch smartphone & tablet UI's before their competitors doesn't mean they can somehow repeat such tricks. Especially as much of that success was about their competitors sucking and stagnating as much as it was about Apple innovating - they had a wide open goal at the time and those days are gone. Nothing in iOS 7 seems to change the pattern of Apple failing to do certain services/data stuff as well as Google can, with both Siri and the 'Today' stuff they've added still failing to match up to what Google Now can do if you like that sort of thing.
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