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To repeat. Apple lock out all partners who have not signed their deal to provide certain service levels. So GIFFGAFF are selling a service they know they cannot support.

How is this Apples fault?

and you're not just reporting it, otherwise you would have said GiffGaff don't support tethering on their network not Apple have locked it out which isn't true as this is the case for all carriers who haven't signed up to the Apple TOS.

You are putting a spin on it to support your standard defacto anti apple sentiment...

So no you're not stating facts you are spinning something to portray it as such...

which in most circles would be considered dishonest...

You should stop this Garf, you and Editor's constant fighting is ruining threads, it's only you two that engage in this, no one else proving you're at fault! You're both like two sides of the same stuck record. Etc etc...
 
You should stop this Garf, you and Editor's constant fighting is ruining threads, it's only you two that engage in this, no one else proving you're at fault! You're both like two sides of the same stuck record. Etc etc...
oh stop being so sensative. The editor and I disagree on many things but there's no written law that he has to agree with me... :D
 
I know but in order for me to use a 4s on their service I still need a specific sim, ditto for the 4.

They know that they can't offer this service as they aren't an authorised supplier, they've not signed up to the TOS for the iphone.

Now I'm happy to admit this is barbaric walled garden and despicable behaviour from apple to lock out a paid for consumer handset based on whether or not they've paid a fatted cow fee to apple.

the fact is they can't say they support a phone model which they actually don't so why provide the the sim for them?
 
Its not to do with giffgaff, they're selling a sim only service......

And its pointless giffgaff agreeing to service standards for handsets when they don't even sell handsets.....

Its my choice to put a giffgaff sim in an iPhone.... because its £10 a month for what I currently pay £45 a month for....... The only drawback is the personal hotspot, which is still nothing a jailbreak wouldn't solve.
 
dude it's totally a carrier issue.

they are giving out a sim for a phone which won't work on them with a full gammut of services.

as this is a specific sim for specific phone why bother giving them out at all?
 
Its not to do with giffgaff, they're selling a sim only service......

And its pointless giffgaff agreeing to service standards for handsets when they don't even sell handsets.....

Its my choice to put a giffgaff sim in an iPhone.... because its £10 a month for what I currently pay £45 a month for....... The only drawback is the personal hotspot, which is still nothing a jailbreak wouldn't solve.

3mobile do a similar deal on payg but allow tethering
 
dude it's totally a carrier issue.

they are giving out a sim for a phone which won't work on them with a full gammut of services.

as this is a specific sim for specific phone why bother giving them out at all?
it's not s specific sim for the iPhone, it's a generic sim :confused:
 
Tell me, the iphone 4s, can you use it as a wireless hotspot like I can currently with my HTC desire?
yes you can technically use it as a wifi hotspot no you cannot use it as the HTC desire because of the way the carriers in the UK have requested the data functions to be limited... technically they are the same implamentations these restrictions are carrier specific.

For example on O2 tethering a desire to use it's wifi etc and hotspot = no addtional fees or software it does it out of the box.
Iphone on 02 with the equiverlent package no tethering allow = Tethering avaialble as a £15.99 bolt on for precisely the same data package... the phones capable the phone companies are blocking them... turning it into a paid service.

Added to which buy any unlocked desire and use it for tethering on any network buy an unlocked Iphone and be limited by the networks citing apple contracts...
 
I'm not in the UK. They can't get away with shafting us like that here - contracts are maximum 6 months for instance. I was just wondering if it was capable. Since I don't have internet at home, I just use my desire S's connection, which is plenty fast enough, with enough data transfer.
It's just I would like a new phone soon, and I like the look of the iphone 4s. THe galaxy S 2 or the nexus are just not looking good in my opinion.
 
I mean technically you can and it's a free service via verzion in the states so see what your local carriers will or won't do as part of the package...
 
Fucksake, I've come across a permissions error with the dcim folder on my iPhone and I can't take pics :mad:

Restore it is then :rolleyes:
 
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