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Kid_Eternity said:
Didn't see this coming ahead of next weeks big announcements...iWork for iPhone:

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Having installed these apps on my iPod, tbh they're a bit of a chuffing joke.

As - I think - you posted on t'other thread, they do have the potential to be useful for a bit of editing. But the couple of times I've fired up Pages (following a reset, with all other apps closed) on my iPod 4th gen, the processor has very rapidly died on it's arse. Skittery screen, lags aplenty, and a pretty hopeless interface. You can kinda get away with Pages on the iPad, because you can have (in portrait) an A4 view, and in landscape it's pretty much A4 width (though I still need to revert to thumbnail view in order to get a better idea of page setup / borders). But... the close-up typing screen on the ipod is just a bit of a joke. Way too zoomed in to be very much use at all. Don't think it does landscape.

Haven't tried Numbers / Keynote yet, but amn't expecting anything particularly functional.

The one major MAJOR advantage from this most recent update - IMO - is that it's now possible to link a keynote presentation with 'keynote remote' on an iPod. Meaning I can use my ipod to control an iPad / projected Keynote presentation, whilst also being able to see all my slide notes (on the ipod).

Which is a very nice touch, tbf.



e2a: yeah, at a guess (and after checking the specs), I'd hazard that these're only really suited to the iPhone 4. With double the RAM of the iPod.
 
Right then that makes sense...but yeah I did say I see them as more a compliment to the main use on the iPad etc. I expect iCloud to link up Pages use from your Mac to iPad to iPhone nicely...
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Right then that makes sense...but yeah I did say I see them as more a compliment to the main use on the iPad etc. I expect iCloud to link up Pages use from your Mac to iPad to iPhone nicely...
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Yeah, service certainly ain't there at the moment.

Can upload / DL everything from an iDisk, but there's nowt that allows syncing.
 
I hope it does everybody should get to share in the retro love! It was one my faves on the Amiga too. "Ice cweam, ice cweam." :D
 
The more i think about iOS5 and the cloud stuff the more the notifications and iMessage interest me, the smaller updates seem more exciting than the stuff that's meant to be exciting.
 
Now this is a very nice little app: Songkick is free and uses your location to tell you about bands that are playing for all your impromptu gigging needs. Just downloaded it and the first thing it asks is to scan your music collections to build a profile to recommend you stuff. Very nice!
 
Yeah read that thought it was a fairly pointless thing to say tbh. Palms so unknown now by your average user that they ain't gonna use iOS notifications and think 'Man I wish this was as good as WebOS'! They'll be all 'Wow notifications don't suck on my iPhone now!'. ;)

It's not for a phone but there's a brilliant touchstone style charger for the Apple mouse. Really don't know why this style of charging hasn't taken off tbh...
 
How much does a dev subscription to apple cost? Im almost tempted. I wanna try my hand at writing iOS apps.
 
editor said:
This article nails it:

"Apple’s iOS 5 notifications are great, but webOS is still better"
http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/08/apples-ios-5-notifications-are-great-but-webos-is-still-better/

Shame Palm/HP fucked up so much and their hardware was so shonky, although I'm still waiting for something half as elegant as their Touchstone charger to come out on another platform.
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Splitting hairs tbf. Very little in it and that is a review of a dev version of software that isn't due for release for 5 months? Its just notifications, its million times better than it was. Its now a forgotten feature, in with there with cut and paste, mms and a whole load of stuff people used to moan about.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
It's more than splitting hairs, means almost zero in the real world...
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But this is the tech forum where even more minor details are regularly discussed and dissected at length! Besides, Apple could still learn from the webOS notification system, like they so obviously learnt from Android's.
 
Lazy Llama said:
It's free to get access to the tools, presuming you already have a Mac.
http://developer.apple.com/programs/register/

You have to pay $99/yr to register as an iOS Developer which gets you access to beta codes for testing, ability to test on real devices etc
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Hmmmmm....... im already and apple developer program, mainly cus I needed xcode for something....

$99 is just a bit more than i want to pay for that. I do wanna try some ios programming though.
 
editor said:
But this is the tech forum where even more minor details are regularly discussed and dissected at length! Besides, Apple could still learn from the webOS notification system, like they so obviously learnt from Android's.
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Yeah and we both know how much there is to be had with that at times..!
 
editor said:
But this is the tech forum where even more minor details are regularly discussed and dissected at length! Besides, Apple could still learn from the webOS notification system, like they so obviously learnt from Android's.
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What is also forgotten is that Apple push notification system works for ALL apps that want notifications, would the WebOS cope with 30 different notifications all the same time? Speedball 2 asked to send me notifications! It clearly only has the basic apps that do on webOS.
 
I think Apple's implementation still lacks - I don't want a banner covering my app, I reckon they could make more use of sounds. But I like the slide down thing (which is from SBSettings in the jailbreak community, (predating Android) which is where Apple nick most of their ideas)
 
Sunray said:
What is also forgotten is that Apple push notification system works for ALL apps that want notifications, would the WebOS cope with 30 different notifications all the same time? Speedball 2 asked to send me notifications! It clearly only has the basic apps that do on webOS.
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Have you ever actually used a webOS phone? There's a reason why so many people rate its notifications system the best, and there's a reason why Apple hired the guy that invented them.

The iOS 5 notification system is, without question, leaps and bounds better than the old iOS notification system. Let’s face it, though — as horrible as iOS notifications have been until now, anything would be better. The system still has plenty of room for improvement however, and unlike Apple’s cut, copy and paste implementation, iOS 5 notifications are not class-leading. Instead, the two-year-old notification UI found in webOS is still iOS’ superior.

WebOS removes the additional layer of complication introduced by the Notification Center, and Android’s notification pane before it. Notifications are represented by a single row of small icons at the bottom of the display. To view a notification after it has been displayed and minimized, the user simply taps the icon. The message then reappears and the user can either open the relevant app by tapping the notification, or dismiss it by swiping the message off the screen to the left or right. The system is incredibly simple, extremely logical and, to quote one Steven P. Jobs, “it just works.”

Another uncharacteristic oversight is Apple’s placement of the notification banner at the top of the display. While the mechanism is infinitely better than then old disruptive notifications, it’s nowhere near as smart as webOS.*When a notification pops up at the bottom of a webOS phone, it acts just like an iOS 5 notification and covers part of the UI. Then, however, it is reduced to an icon that pushes the entire UI up and out of the way. This means even though the notification is occupying screen real estate, the user can continue to perform each and every function he or she could if the notification was not on the screen. It also means the notification is still easily accessible from any screen, whenever the user chooses to interact with it; there is no need for a separate drop-down pane to collect notifications.

http://iphonecruncher.com/2011/06/0...ications-are-great-but-webos-is-still-better/
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editor said:
Have you ever actually used a webOS phone? There's a reason why so many people rate its notifications system the best, and there's a reason why Apple hired the guy that invented them.
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Thats not answering my question. Its just saying the same thing over and over. iOS allows *all* apps to notify, which I don't think webOS does, would it cope if it had 30-40 apps pushing up notifications. Surely if it squeezes the screen, 40 notification will put the screen your working on off the top?
 
Sunray said:
Thats not answering my question. Its just saying the same thing over and over. iOS allows *all* apps to notify, which I don't think webOS does, would it cope if it had 30-40 apps pushing up notifications. Surely if it squeezes the screen, 40 notification will put the screen your working on off the top?
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In what possible scenario would you have - or even want - 40 different apps all pushing notifications all at the same time? It's a ridiculous argument.
 
editor said:
In what possible scenario would you have - or even want - 40 different apps all pushing notifications all at the same time? It's a ridiculous argument.
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This is what iOS allows. I currently have about 13 apps that can push notification to me all but a few are switched off as the notification system was broken. Its fixed now so I'll switch all 13 on when they do the update. Lots of new stuff wants to notify these days.
 
editor said:
In what possible scenario would you have - or even want - 40 different apps all pushing notifications all at the same time? It's a ridiculous argument.
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Err, what? Its perfectly plausible that people may have quite a large number of apps that are capable of sending push notifications. When it comes to the example of 40 notifications sitting there, it depends over what time period these have gathered as to whether this number is realistic. Generally I doubt that too many people have that many notifications accumulate in between uses of the phone, but you never know.
 
elbows said:
Err, what? Its perfectly plausible that people may have quite a large number of apps that are capable of sending push notifications. When it comes to the example of 40 notifications sitting there, it depends over what time period these have gathered as to whether this number is realistic. Generally I doubt that too many people have that many notifications accumulate in between uses of the phone, but you never know.
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But all at the same time from 40 different apps?! When would this ever happen?

The iOS5 system is basically a rip off of the Android system, and as someone who has owned all three phones, I'm not surprised that writers are commenting that the webOS remains the superior system.
 
Structaural said:
I think Apple's implementation still lacks - I don't want a banner covering my app, I reckon they could make more use of sounds. But I like the slide down thing (which is from SBSettings in the jailbreak community, (predating Android) which is where Apple nick most of their ideas)
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Agreed, I think the jailbreak community is actually invaluable for apple developers. The new OS notifications system is undoubtedly a hybrid between SBSettings and LockInfo.
 
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