Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[elbows]

Futurama to the rescue:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/futurama-critiques-gadget-and-social-media-obsession-using-1950s/

 

[Sunray]

This Anandtech review of the iPhone is the best one I've read.
It has a really thorough investigation of the signal attenuation problems and explains why you don't see it so much in high signal areas and why the drop in signal bars is misleading.

The man says its fine and its actually better reception than the 3G which means that its all a load of hyped bollox. I trust no other hardware reviewer quite like Anand Li Shimpy.

I have the 32Gb version coming sometime in the week.

I look forward to the 1st app that does steady cam on the phone. Might be fast enough?

 

[stupid dogbot]

Two days in now, and I'm liking it a lot.

Most of the niggles are solved. Calls are good.

I can generate the problem if I grip the phone at the bottom, say whilst browsing staring at it... but again, as with the calls I don't hold it that way.

Video camera is awesome.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Seems to me the reception problems happen most when people try to create them. In the real world does anyone use the phone in that way?

 

[editor]

Seems to me the reception problems happen most when people try to create them. In the real world does anyone use the phone in that way?

I imagine the people who have suffered dropped calls do.

I certainly might hold the phone that way if I was using the speaker phone. Either way, it's a design flaw that should have been addressed.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I've never held a phone like that on a call and the torrent of posts seem to be purposely trying to recreate it.

It is a flaw but not a big one given the insane number of sales...

 

[editor]

I've never held a phone like that on a call and the torrent of posts seem to be purposely trying to recreate it.

It is a flaw but not a big one given the insane number of sales...

It's been blown out of all proportion - the class action lawsuits are ridiculous, if you ask me - but it may certainly prove a very real and annoying flaw for some users, who perhaps have got a little more annoyed by Steve Jobs' dismissive attitude.

It wouldn't stop me buying one, but I'd expect a bumper to be thrown in for free.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It's been blown out of all proportion - the class action lawsuits are ridiculous, if you ask me - but it may certainly prove a very real and annoying flaw for some users, who perhaps have got a little more annoyed by Steve Jobs' dismissive attitude.

It wouldn't stop me buying one, but I'd expect a bumper to be thrown in for free.

Yep pretty agree with all the above right down to demanding a free bumper too.

 

[Sunray]

I imagine the people who have suffered dropped calls do.

I certainly might hold the phone that way if I was using the speaker phone. Either way, it's a design flaw that should have been addressed.

Anandtec has said its actually more sensitive and give you better reception than the 3G by managing to hack the 4 so that it displays the signal strength. He's verging on autistic in his attention to detail so I'd say that its people talking bollocks.

They have always dropped calls, the 3G did it and this is no different.

I've dropped a few on the release of the phone and v2.0.0 of the software. After a few hurried point releases, I've never dropped a call. I'd say my 3G is quite easily the most reliable phone I have ever owned.

 

[editor]

Anandtec has said its actually more sensitive and give you better reception than the 3G by managing to hack the 4 so that it displays the signal strength. He's verging on autistic in his attention to detail so I'd say that its people talking bollocks.

You may be quick to dismiss it as people "talking bollocks" but there seems to be no shortage of antenna experts, other tech sites and regular users experiencing the problem.


I don't think they're all making it up.

 

[ovaltina]

It wouldn't stop me buying one, but I'd expect a bumper to be thrown in for free.

Corporate buyers will steer clear and go for blackberries instead

 

[Winot]

Corporate buyers will steer clear and go for blackberries instead

We didn't.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Corporate buyers will steer clear and go for blackberries instead

I seriously doubt it will have any impact.

 

[editor]

I think a lot of people would still buy an iPhone if a big spring sporadically boing'd out the back.

 

[g force]

Many corporates will stick with RIM because it does what it needs to - send/receive email better than any other phone and the hardware is cheaper.

But the 'issues' won't affect the buying decision. It comes down to ability to support hardware and cost.

 

[grit]

Many corporates will stick with RIM because it does what it needs to - send/receive email better than any other phone and the hardware is cheaper.

But the 'issues' won't affect the buying decision. It comes down to ability to support hardware and cost.

Enterprises use Blackberry more for BES rather than anything else. Stuff like remote wipe and the like are the compelling reasons.

 

[editor]

BGR are insisting that those Steve Jobs emails were real and are calling Apple liars!

Now BGR has posted a followup story maintaining that the email exchange was real, save for that one misattributed message, and they’re basically calling Apple’s PR team liars. In the post, BGR founder Jonathan Geller details how he had the relevant Email headers analyzed and has looked through Burford’s Google Apps account himself (with permission). *And he says that despite what Apple claims, the emails check out.

What*is interesting is the allegation that Apple PR lied on the record to multiple press outlets about the authenticity of the story. *It’s not unusual for PR teams — especially Apple’s — to ignore or give vague or even misleading statements to the press. *But it would be crossing a line to give a statement that is demonstrably false. *We’ve reached out to Apple PR to ask them if they have a response to the new BGR piece.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/03/bgr-apple-jobs-email/

Edit: here's the BGR article: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/03/the-entire-steve-jobs-email-story-its-real/

 

[grit]

BGR are insisting that those Steve Jobs emails were real and are calling Apple liars!




http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/03/bgr-apple-jobs-email/

Edit@ here's the BGR article: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/03/the-entire-steve-jobs-email-story-its-real/

Email headers as proof? Thats weak. Anyone could sit down and write those headers from scratch easily.

 

[editor]

Email headers as proof? Thats weak. Anyone could sit down and write those headers from scratch easily.

Have you read the BGR piece?

 

[Winot]

Many corporates will stick with RIM because it does what it needs to - send/receive email better than any other phone

Are up to date Blackberrys any cop at reading attachments? The iPhone is superb at that - much better than older Blackberrys - don't know about the newer ones.

 

[grit]

Are up to date Blackberrys any cop at reading attachments? The iPhone is superb at that - much better than older Blackberrys - don't know about the newer ones.

Sure, they open microsoft office attachments and the like without issue.

 

[grit]

Have you read the BGR piece?

I'm not interested in the piece, just the use of email headers as "proof" (which is ridiculous).

 

[100% masahiko]

Playing with my iPhone 4.
Disappointed.

 

[Callum91]

Playing with my iPhone 4.
Disappointed.

Not exactly ''revolutionary'' is it?

 

[grit]

Not exactly ''revolutionary'' is it?

Well it is, its just spurring on the Android revolution

 

[Sunray]

Playing with my iPhone 4.
Disappointed.

If you were happy with the older models or another phone, then why did you get a iPhone 4?

Are you a lemming?

There is only one reason I want it, screen, video etc etc all irrelevant to me. The one big feature over a 3G is the speed.

 

[stupid dogbot]

It's a phone, were you expecting a profound life changing experience?

 

[sim667]

It's a phone, were you expecting a profound life changing experience?

Ive found some nifty little features i really like on mine.........

 

[stupid dogbot]

Me too. But it's still just a toy, and a device for making phone calls.

 

[100% masahiko]

If you were happy with the older models or another phone, then why did you get a iPhone 4?

Are you a lemming?

There is only one reason I want it, screen, video etc etc all irrelevant to me. The one big feature over a 3G is the speed.

My iphone 3G died on me, and for the last 4 months I've been using a £5 LG phone - no camera, picture screen, no internet. And tbh, I liked the idea of a no-frills phone. The battery lasts for longer and I'm not fiddling with iMobster/ killing zombies every other hour of the day.

But I do miss having an iPod...The cost of replacing my broken 3G is £50.
For £90, I could get the iPhone 4. So I went with the iPhone 4.

Speed? Yeah that's good.