Kid_Eternity
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Yeah I just don't ever think of the Pre when people ask me about smartphones (it's normal Blackberry, Android or iPhone...).
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Yeah I just don't ever think of the Pre when people ask me about smartphones (it's normal Blackberry, Android or iPhone...).
fen_boy
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I am with them, yes.
Actually, as usually happens, after posting daft questions on teh internets, I've actually phoned them and asked
I've already ordered the phone from Apple, so no worries about the shop having stock or not. It won't arrive until 14/15th July though. (I want a Simplicity tariff, and, despite what I posted previously, the O2 shop dude told me I wouldn't be able to buy the handset from them on Thursday for use with a Simplicity tariff because it's essentially a payg handset, which they are, indeed, not doing yet.)
In the meantime, I'm going into the O2 shop tomorrow, with my order confirmation from Apple, and they will give me a new micro-sim that I can pop in my current iPhone and activate. Then, on 8th July when my current contract runs out, I can call O2, who will switch me to the Simplicity tariff I want. I'll keep my number, keep that new micro-sim, etc. Then, when the new phone arrives, I just pop out the micro- bit of the new sim, and pop it in the new phone, and it carries on as normal.
The only thing complicating it was the change in contract half way through the process. I haven't swapped a sim before without having a whole new contract, so I wasn't sure how it worked.
Right, so they won't sell you a phone in an o2 shop on the 24th if you want a simplicity tariff? That's what I wanted. I won't bother going if that's the case.
Kid_Eternity
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Anyone have an idea what time iOS4 will be available for download?
Vintage Paw
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Nope. Well, I've heard 2 different things.
I called O2 and they said yes, I would be able to. Then I called my local shop, and he said no, I wouldn't be able to. I'm going to trust him, because he sounded significantly more clued-up than the person in the call centre.
I'd call your local shop to make sure, if I were you. To make sure.
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
Hmmm, maybe I won't, if it's all the same.
fen_boy
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It's near enough for me to just chance it.
elbows
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Dunno exactly, it tends to be the evening in the UK though, once San Fran has woken up for a while.
elbows
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Well the final version has been available to devs for a few weeks so these observations might not be based on an earlier beta.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Didn't know that. I guess when substantial numbers of people dl it a truer picture of performance will emerge.
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
I'd forgotten that. Better work out how to backup my 3.1.3 install, or my phone will be useless. It'd be just typical of it to go into restore mode today!
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
Depends where you're going with it. I'm planning to trade mine in, and not mention its foilbles. 
Vintage Paw
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Are you still in contract? If so, you'll have to buy out your contract. But no, they won't want the phone. You've paid for it.
Kid_Eternity
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I'd forgotten that. Better work out how to backup my 3.1.3 install, or my phone will be useless. It'd be just typical of it to go into restore mode today!
Heh yeah I remembered over the weekend and did a back up in preparation.
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
So you could restore to 3.1.3?
Got a link to instructions - it's the avoiding the update I need to do...??
And once iTunes knows it exists, it won't let you restore without updating.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
iOS4 is available.
Anyone who's installing it to a 3g, could you let us know if there's any appreciable difference in performance please? Ta
Anyone who's installing it to a 3g, could you let us know if there's any appreciable difference in performance please? Ta
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
So you could restore to 3.1.3?
Got a link to instructions - it's the avoiding the update I need to do...??
And once iTunes knows it exists, it won't let you restore without updating.
I always back up before any proper software update.
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
Ive got a simplicty iphone, the rolling 30 day one....... tariff but the sim works in an old phone so im still using it
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
I've seen a few reports this evening that it's sloooow on a 3G.Anyone who's installing it to a 3g, could you let us know if there's any appreciable difference in performance please? Ta
Vintage Paw
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Vintage Paw
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Here's one article suggesting people with the 3g hold fire: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/ios-4-performance-on-older-devices/7262
I think it's pretty crap that that's it now for software updates for the 3g. As app developers start creating apps optimised for iOS4 the pool of new, innovative apps will decline for older gen owners. It will become impossible to update to protect against bugs or exploits. You're kinda being told, well yeah, thanks for giving us your money 2 years ago, now give us a load more or fuck off.
Or maybe I'm being over dramatic.
I think it's pretty crap that that's it now for software updates for the 3g. As app developers start creating apps optimised for iOS4 the pool of new, innovative apps will decline for older gen owners. It will become impossible to update to protect against bugs or exploits. You're kinda being told, well yeah, thanks for giving us your money 2 years ago, now give us a load more or fuck off.
Or maybe I'm being over dramatic.
FridgeMagnet
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Took forever on my 3GS.
Kid_Eternity
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It doesn't surprise me really, it's in Apple's interest to force older users to update their phones...
grit
an ugly force for good
Kid_Eternity
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its always only about the new shiny
Pretty much.
Downloading iOS4 now, will report back once it's sorted.
Kid_Eternity
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First post from my newly iOS4 enabled 3GS.
Is it me or is going back to the home page from an app smoother? Multitasking works very nicely. Having a play around and not noticing any slow down.
Is it me or is going back to the home page from an app smoother? Multitasking works very nicely. Having a play around and not noticing any slow down.
Kid_Eternity
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Folders are sweeeet! Just gone from 7 pages down to three thanks to them, everything nicely organised. Apps seems to be working ok apart from 2Do which won't start. Just checked on their Facebook page and someone else has the same problem so I reckon an iOS4 update will appear for that...
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