Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[stupid dogbot]

I've now managed to get an App installed which lets you configure the "shake" function to "return to home screen".

Hardware fault "fixed" with software!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

IPhone makes you sexy, FACT!

http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/21/54-of-women-more-likely-to-date-men-with-iphones-says-iphone-retailer/

And lol about Palm Pre owners!





(note to Ed, I'm joking this is clearly bollox)

 

[Lazy Llama]

Bit of a disclaimer on that press release - http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...es-are-more-attractive-to-women-91714409.html

 

[Sunray]

Yeah btopenzone spots rarely work at all for me, its always the connection on the internet side is fooked rather than the wifi..... just stick with 3g.......

how long til wimax starts rolling out do we all think? Id liek to see this on the iphone in the future.

I keep pointing out to people WiMax is dead for lots of reason.

Even Clearwire in the US, the largest WiMax provider in the country have said so.

http://www.von.com/news/clearwire-says-it-could-ditch-wimax-for-lte.html

Possibly expect LTE for the next one as Verizon are starting to roll out their LTE network.

Forget about new phones and technology, get the operators to have full HSDPA across the country would be enough. Its up to 7Mb/s which is plenty and that works with your 3G phone right now. Actually goes to 14Mbs but I think the 3GS only supports 7.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Forget about new phones and technology, get the operators to have full HSDPA across the country would be enough. Its up to 7Mb/s which is plenty and that works with your 3G phone right now. Actually goes to 14Mbs but I think the 3GS only supports 7.

My phone can't render webpages that quickly, so I guess it will do.

In the meantime I'd quite like a home connection that quick and 3g or Edge where I live.

 

[editor]

I keep pointing out to people WiMax is dead for lots of reason.

Even Clearwire in the US, the largest WiMax provider in the country have said so.

http://www.von.com/news/clearwire-says-it-could-ditch-wimax-for-lte.html
.

That article - which says they 'could' ditch Wimax - is over six months old - but the company is still providing WiMax with the coverage growing.

Several operators have announced upgrades to 4G broadband networks. CITI notes that by 2013, Verizon Wireless plans to roll out Long Term Evolution (LTE)—a 4G mobile broadband technology—to its entire footprint, which currently covers more than 285 million people.

AT&T has announced it will test LTE in 2010 and begin rollout in 2011. Through its partnership with Clearwire, Sprint plans to use WiMAX as its 4G technology. WiMAX has been rolled out in a few markets already, and Clearwire plans to cover 120 million people with WiMAX by the end of 2010.

http://broadbandbreakfast.com/2010/03/connecting-america-chapter-3-current-state-of-the-ecosystem/

 

[Sunray]

OK, have a newer one then

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/192307/sprint_clearwire_warm_up_to_lte.html

Remember that in the next couple of years, you will start to see LTE equipped phones on the shelves and in 5 years it will be the standard communication standard assuming that the networks roll it out fast enough.

Most all the big operators have stated they will be offering LTE. These things take a while to sort and make so the phone people need to be clear on what it going to be used in the future so they can make stuff that will work on it.

 

[elbows]

That article says

However, neither he nor Sprint CEO Dan Hesse exactly waved a white flag of surrender in the competition between WiMax and LTE.

and

Still, Morrow said WiMax is far from dead. He said 600 million people around the world are within reach of a WiMax network and 1 billion will be by the end of this year. "That's a market that's big enough to be around for a long time," he said.

Hardly the same as WiMax being dead.

 

[Sunray]

The CEO of the largest WiMax supplier in the US isn't going to be saying that the technology they are using is dead.

Its not dead for us in the UK, because that would imply that its there to be used and its not and never will be. All the operators in the UK are currently engaged in adopting LTE.

This is all an irrelevance because they can't even get their 3G networks up to speed with current technology.

 

[grit]

Ok now I believe the gizmodo 4g phone was not a PR stunt. The cops just raided his house and seized his machines.

 

[elbows]

The CEO of the largest WiMax supplier in the US isn't going to be saying that the technology they are using is dead.

Well Im not claiming the technology has a bright future but you were the one who claimed that Clearwire have said its dead.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

For the doubters.

The backstory of the lost fourth-gen iPhone prototype acquired by Gizmodo last week is certainly already the stuff of some legend, but hold on tight, because it just got even wilder: Giz editor Jason Chen's house was apparently raided by California's REACT computer crimes task force under the authority of a search warrant on Friday night and his computers and several other items were seized. That means a criminal investigation led by the San Mateo police and district attorney is almost certainly in full swing, which is, well, crazy.

 

[Structaural]

Ok now I believe the gizmodo 4g phone was not a PR stunt. The cops just raided his house and seized his machines.

Possibly illegally too (the press have protection against that sort of thing)

 

[grit]

Possibly illegally too (the press have protection against that sort of thing)

True, still cant find out why exactly he was raided. Its not beyond the bounds of possibility that it was actually for something else, but the timing obviously suggests its 4g related .

 

[ooo]

True, still cant find out why exactly he was raided. Its not beyond the bounds of possibility that it was actually for something else, but the timing obviously suggests its 4g related .

Receiving a stolen good is illegal in california.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/pda/2010/apr/26/iphone-gizmodo-police-search-apple

 

[grit]

Receiving a stolen good is illegal in california.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/pda/2010/apr/26/iphone-gizmodo-police-search-apple

Of course!

In all the excitement the boring legality of it didn't even enter my mind!

 

[editor]

True, still cant find out why exactly he was raided. Its not beyond the bounds of possibility that it was actually for something else, but the timing obviously suggests its 4g related .

It's Apple's revenge, part one.

 

[grit]

It's Apple's revenge, part one.

I wonder if they contacted him with a cease and desist, he said fuck off.

Then they called in the big guns. Seems a heavy handed move (even for jobs!) to be the first step.

 

[editor]

And they're back to banning editorial cartoonists after Steve Jobs got his mate back on.

Should newspaper editorial cartoonists be banned from drawing cartoons about some selected, famous people? Many believe we should not be allowed to draw the Prophet Muhammad – but how about banning us from drawing Tiger Woods? If Apple has its way, iPhone users won’t see cartoonists commenting about Tiger, and other topics that might ridicule selected public figures.

I distribute my own cartoons, and the work of dozens of other top editorial cartoonists from around the world to newspapers, Web sites and now to Apple’s iPhone and iPad. As the audience for news and opinion has grown on the iPhone, we’ve put more effort into developing editorial cartoon apps that show all the latest cartoons that the cartoonists draw on different topics.

Apple approved our “msnbc.com Obama Cartoons” app that shows the latest newspaper editorial cartoons drawn about President Obama, but Apple rejected our app on the topic of Tiger Woods. It seems that Tiger crosses an editorial line at Apple....


When I submitted my first iPhone app, “msnbc.com Cartoons”, the editors at Apple took three months to consider it, an unusually long time. I’m told it was a difficult decision for them. At that time they also rejected an app called “Bobble Rep” by my friend, Mad Magazine cartoonist Tom Richmond, because it contained caricatures of members of congress; after some public outcry, Apple reconsidered and approved Tom’s app. Another cartoonist friend, Mark Fiore, had his rejected iPhone app reconsidered and approved only after he won a Pulitzer Prize for his cartoons. Soon after it was approved, Mark’s app became the number one best selling news app on the iPhone. I’ve asked Apple to reconsider their rejection of our “Tiger Woods Cartoons” app, and have gotten no response.

With all of their rejections, Apple sends the cartoonist a form letter noting “content that ridicules public figures” is in violation of the iPhone license agreement...

It is chilling to see Apple pick and choose which topics can be discussed in the mediums they control. By positioning itself to control the new methods of delivery for news and opinion, Apple assumes a special responsibility to allow for a full and free debate on all topics and personalities in the news.

I don’t want Apple deciding which public figures I may ridicule.

http://blog.cagle.com/daryl/2010/04/24/apple-you-can-ridicule-obama-but-don’t-bash-tiger-woods/

 

[Gromit]

It's Apple's revenge, part one.

I'm not sure.

If you lose an item you are meant to report it to the police. If the police discover it was taken and not handed into the police but sold instead then they are obliged to launch a criminal investigation.

Nine times out of ten they have no leads and the case ends.

This time evidence of the crime was plastered all over the internet and the news. Case open.

Nothing has happened here other than what should happen. Not to say that Apple won't be enjoying the fact that its happening.

Personally I think Gizmodo did Apple a favour.

With the release of the Desire and no news of the next iPhone due for months they were going to lose customers to the latest phone/s available.

People may hold out for the iPhone release now that appitites have been wetted and now we know for sure that there really is a new phone. I was scared that we weren't going to see one any time soon and bought a Desire before all this broke.

If Apple had done an official early release people would have thought they were scare of the competition. This happening instead helps them with no lose of face.

Unfortunately for Gizmodo the court case will be publicity for Apple too. With their name being mentioned and there product being mentioned. So I can't see Apple refusing to press charges. Or if they do it won't be early in the process but later when they've had plenty of publicity first.

 

[grit]

I'm not sure.

If you lose an item you are meant to report it to the police. If the police discover it was taken and not handed into the police but sold instead then they are obliged to launch a criminal investigation.

Nine times out of ten they have no leads and the case ends.

This time evidence of the crime was plastered all over the internet and the news. Case open.

Nothing has happened here other than what should happen. Not to say that Apple won't be enjoying the fact that its happening.

Personally I think Gizmodo did Apple a favour.

With the release of the Desire and no news of the next iPhone due for months they were going to lose customers to the latest phone/s available.

People may hold out for the iPhone release now that appitites have been wetted and now we know for sure that there really is a new phone. I was scared that we weren't going to see one any time soon and bought a Desire before all this broke.

If Apple had done an official early release people would have thought they were scare of the competition. This happening instead helps them with no lose of face.

Unfortunately for Gizmodo the court case will be publicity for Apple too. With their name being mentioned and there product being mentioned. So I can't see Apple refusing to press charges. Or if they do it won't be early in the process but later when they've had plenty of publicity first.

It seems far too minor a case for the cops to be so proactive, they got a call.

 

[Gromit]

It seems far too minor a case for the cops to be so proactive, they got a call.

Or you are the cop who logged the report. See the news and thinks shit if I don't follow this up and it escalates my arse will be in a sling. Questions will be asked why i did nothing.

Or someone higher up the police food chain sees a political opportunity.

Or someone higher up the police food chain is automatically protective of their major local going concern.

or a combination of these and / or a call.

 

[editor]

I'm not sure.

I am. Apple - who are very, very well acquainted with using the legal process to protect their assets - wants to send out a nice loud message to anyone else thinking of running any future exclusives.

Don't forget, this is the company who wanted to make jailbreaking your own phone an illegal act!

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02/apple-says-jailbreaking-illegal

 

[grit]

From talking to some of my American mates, the big problem is he paid 5k for it. This turns it from a misdemeanor into a felony.

 

[editor]

From talking to some of my American mates, the big problem is he paid 5k for it. This turns it from a misdemeanor into a felony.

The twats from Gizmodo behaved disgracefully - especially the despicable way they taunted the poor sod who lost his phone - but it's in Apple's clear interest to make sure everyone knows that whoever tries it again will get well and truly slapped down.

Again: this is the company who withdrew all advertising from that site because they didn't like a single article that was written about their boss, amongst the endless free fanboy publicity usually served up.

They're free to do as they please of course, but it gives you some insight into their mindset.

 

[Gromit]

From talking to some of my American mates, the big problem is he paid 5k for it. This turns it from a misdemeanor into a felony.

I've been wondering if IP laws have been broken too. Releasing spec of a product to Apple's competitors via press release is as damaging to them as much as if specs had been stolen by an industrial spy and sold to Nokia.

 

[grit]

I've been wondering if IP laws have been broken too. Releasing spec of a product to Apple's competitors via press release is as damaging to them as much as if specs had been stolen by an industrial spy and sold to Nokia.

I think thats pushing it to be honest. They didnt release a spec and listing what the components are is not copyrighted.

 

[Structaural]

The twats from Gizmodo behaved disgracefully - especially the despicable way they taunted the poor sod who lost his phone - but it's in Apple's clear interest to make sure everyone knows that whoever tries it again will get well and truly slapped down.

Again: this is the company who withdrew all advertising from that site because they didn't like a single article that was written about their boss, amongst the endless free fanboy publicity usually served up.

They're free to do as they please of course, but it gives you some insight into their mindset.

Hmm, Apple is on the steering committee for the REACT task force that raided Chen’s house. link

 

[editor]

Hmm, Apple is on the steering committee for the REACT task force that raided Chen’s house. link

Hmm indeed...

In either case, it's hard to imagine — even if you grant that a theft may have occurred under California law, which requires people who come across lost items to make a good-faith effort to return them to their owner — how the loss of a single phone in a bar merits the involvement of an elite task force of local, state, and federal authorities devoted to "reducing the incidence of high technology crime through the apprehension of the professional organizers of large-scale criminal activities," as the REACT website motto characterizes its mission.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Unfortunately for Gizmodo the court case will be publicity for Apple too. With their name being mentioned and there product being mentioned. So I can't see Apple refusing to press charges. Or if they do it won't be early in the process but later when they've had plenty of publicity first.

I think it could be good publicitity for Giz as well. How many people have heard of them now who hadn't before? How many more will hear of them when this story hits the mainstream media. They're going to milk this for all its worth!