Accused rapist Ched Evans to be released from prison

[Part 2]

What does the inquiry actually mean in terms of his conviction? Would it give him chance for future appeal? I thought he'd already tried that.

 

[Citizen66]

Even if you think you've done nothing wrong.
Which is kinda hard to belive considering he ran away.
2 and a half years in jail would even given a professional footballer time to think.

But acknowleding his guilt means he wouldn't be able to play the victim of a miscarriage of justice for which he relies on for his support from hs gf and family etc.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

What does the inquiry actually mean in terms of his conviction? Would it give him chance for future appeal? I thought he'd already tried that.

The Criminal Cases Review Commission looks at cases in depth and if they feel that there was possibly a miscarriage of justice they refer the case back to the court of appeal. Of the nearly 17,000 cases they've looked at 565 were referred to the court of appeal, 543 have been heard by the court of appeal with 374 quashed and 153 upheld.

So statistically having your case looked at by them is very unlikely to result in your conviction being quashed.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Oh, did notice Viky Pryce musing about Evans:

He should be able to live a life. None of us know exactly what happened. He’s done the time, we should be much more open to rehabilitation.

We do know what happened, the court was quite clear on that

 

[likesfish]

But acknowleding his guilt means he wouldn't be able to play the victim of a miscarriage of justice for which he relies on for his support from hs gf and family etc.

If he had the brains of a squirrel he could pull off the reformed act which is more beliveable and more people would be sympathetic.
Could even be actually useful dont think with your dick or you could end up in jail.

 

[Citizen66]

If he had the brains of a squirrel he could pull off the reformed act which is more beliveable and more people would be sympathetic.
Could even be actually useful dont think with your dick or you could end up in jail.

I dunno. People don't tend to be sympathetic of nonces reformed or otherwise. His only way out of that is to enable victim blaming hence the miscarriage of justice routine.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I dunno. People don't tend to be sympathetic of nonces reformed or otherwise. His only way out of that is to enable victim blaming hence the miscarriage of justice routine.

Dunno, as this case, indeed this thread has shown, there are enough people out there who are confused by the concept of consent. A contrite Evans explaining how what he did was so wrong probably could be accepted back in to football, at the same time as serving a useful purpose to educate others on the correct way for humans to behave towards each other. But that ship sailed long ago, so fuck him.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

The Criminal Cases Review Commission looks at cases in depth and if they feel that there was possibly a miscarriage of justice they refer the case back to the court of appeal. Of the nearly 17,000 cases they've looked at 565 were referred to the court of appeal, 543 have been heard by the court of appeal with 374 quashed and 153 upheld.

So statistically having your case looked at by them is very unlikely to result in your conviction being quashed.

What's the criteria for a case to be reviewed in the first place, do you know?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

What's the criteria for a case to be reviewed in the first place, do you know?

No idea, outside pressure perhaps?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What's the criteria for a case to be reviewed in the first place, do you know?

That you have tried an appeal first. After that, you just apply.

This is the appeal court decision.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-rape-conviction-probe-4741691

This week the Mirror told how the number of women claiming to be the victims of drunken rape has risen following his his-profile case.

Police forces up and down the country have experienced a surge in the amount of people reporting their ordeal.

Figures show a rise on average of over 50% between August and October.

In Northumbria, that number shot up by 192% compared to the same period last year.

Authorities and charities reckon the coverage of the Evans case has encouraged rape victims - particularly those attacked while too drunk to consent - to come forward.

 

[BigTom]

I wonder what the absolute figures are for that rise, I bet it's really small still, would be easy to show a near 200% rise if you went from 2 cases to 6.

edit: the smallest that could be to generate a 192% rise is 25, rising to 48. I do wish that journalists would put absolute figures as well as relative ones.

 

[Part 2]

Going to Hartlepool?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30563782

 

[butchersapron]

Going to Hartlepool?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30563782

That's bent Moore. Class.

 

[comrade spurski]

Moore is quoted as saying "he made a mistake"....who the fuck considers rape a mistake?

 

[butchersapron]

Moore is quoted as saying "he made a mistake"....who the fuck considers rape a mistake?

Someone who 'made a mistake"

 

[comrade spurski]

I have an uncomfortable feeling about the term "rape apologist" but it really fits that quote.

 

[hash tag]

Poor hartlepool, bottom of the league, so just when you thought things couldnt get any worse....

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Hartlepool now not signing him, apparently.

 

[JTG]

Hartlepool now not signing him, apparently.

I can imagine the facepalming in the boardroom at their new manager's statements followed by a hasty press release

 

[butchersapron]

Hartlepools united/clough

I forgot there were still so many not quite right/shady chairman around. I mean not billionaire ones. I mean look at my car showroom and sheepskin coat type ones.

 

[hash tag]

Would that be yer arfur daley types

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Hartlepools united/clough

I forgot there were still so many not quite right/shady chairman around. I mean not billionaire ones. I mean look at my car showroom and sheepskin coat type ones.

And these are precisely the people Evans could have influenced had he been man enough to acknowledge what he'd done.

But we wasn't, just another scumbag rapist.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Would that be yer arfur daley types

Nah!

Arthur Daley?
A little dodgy, maybe.
But underneath he's alright!

 

[marty21]

Evans will have to go abroad to have any chance of playing at a high-ish level - the only way he is likely to play in the UK again is if he acknowledges that he did rape her , and apologises for his actions. He is not going to do that as he appears to be waiting for the case to be looked at again, and is being badly advised by team evans.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Foreign teams may be a tad reluctant to take him on if Nike etc feel some pressure about sponsoring rapists.

 

[marty21]

Foreign teams may be a tad reluctant to take him on if Nike etc feel some pressure about sponsoring rapists.

True, but unless he acknowledges his guilt or does a real apology to his victim he has fuck all chance of playing in the UK again

 

[equationgirl]

True, but unless he acknowledges his guilt or does a real apology to his victim he has fuck all chance of playing in the UK again

Neither of which are unreasonable things to expect of someone who wants to be a top-flight player, they are after all role models as much as sportsmen these days. But neither are likely as someone has already pointed out whilst he is waiting for the outcome of the latest legal challenge.

 

[JTG]

Hartlepools united/clough

I forgot there were still so many not quite right/shady chairman around. I mean not billionaire ones. I mean look at my car showroom and sheepskin coat type ones.

Barry 'Boycey' Bradshaw on our board of directors is a prime example

 

[hash tag]

Hmm, so cruel

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/28/ched-evans-rape-victim-change-name-move-house-father