Smiley culture update

[AndyCam]

SMILEY CULTURE UPDATE:
VIA Merlin Emanuel (NEPHEW)
Ok,
Family press conference,
Tomorrow 17th March 11.30am
in Brixton
Gresham Road,
right next to Police Station across the road in Mosque meeting room.
TV and radio will be there.
Question is will you?
Please come to support, not abort, through foolishness.
We're gonna get these demons legally.

 

[bmd]

What does that mean? Did the police stab him?

 

[AndyCam]

No Idea but it stinks...let's hope the answers are true & not taking the public for fools again!

 

[BlackArab]

Thanks for posting that. Can you pop back and let us know what happened/keep us updated. Cheers

 

[Bingo]

Surely some kind of cover-up...

 

[editor]

Surely some kind of cover-up...

Err, I think the idea is to try and find out what happened before declaring it to be a cover-up, no?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

on today's press conference, called by the family: http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2011/03/smiley-culture-press-conference/

(includes video of the whole thing)

 

[stethoscope]

Thanks for the report on what happened today Fozzie, reading now.

 

[chazegee]

With Police as the only witnesses, it's going to be very difficult to get a fully accurate picture.
Best shot is the independent Pathologist.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I should also flag up here that there is going to be a public meeting in Brixton at 7PM on 24th of March.

Venue TBC, because they need to find a bigger one.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

With Police as the only witnesses, it's going to be very difficult to get a fully accurate picture.
Best shot is the independent Pathologist.

Yep.

 

[ericjarvis]

The important thing is to attempt to get across to the Met that regardless of precisely what happened in this incident, the simple fact is that they have previous form, and they need to be aware of that when investigating such incidents. Simply assuming that they can label somebody as a "wrong 'un" and then make little or no effort to make it clear that a proper and suitably open investigation has taken place simply won't wash. They've been trying it for years and that's the whole problem.

When the Met Police start showing the people of London that they hold their own officers to the standards they demand of the rest of us, and that they treat all suspicious incidents accordingly, then and only then can they start mending the divide between them and so many Londoners.

I don't hold out a lot of hope. There are some excellent police officers in the Met, but far too few who are prepared to challenge the culture of "us and them/with us or against us" that pervades most of the Met Police's approach to any suspicion of wrongdoing by its officers.

I make no assumptions about what happened. The point stands regardless of the specifics of this particular case. The Met HAS to show itself as capable of being self critical.

 

[manny-p]

I was extremely suspicious when I first heard details of what happened to Smiley. Let hope his family get some answers.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Today's links: http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2011/03/smiley-culture-rip-day-4/ sorry to keep spamming the place up with links to my blog, but I'm a bit short of time!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

No worries keep it coming.

 

[BlackArab]

Today's links: http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2011/03/smiley-culture-rip-day-4/ sorry to keep spamming the place up with links to my blog, but I'm a bit short of time!

Deffo not spam, keep up the good work mate.

 

[ernestolynch]

Is Warlingham Met or Surrey Police?

 

[chazegee]

From Oracle. The Police BB's

It's only given 'air-time' because it involves the police. If he had been stabbed by a gang of thugs it preobably wouldn't have made the small print on page 17 of the Sun.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Is Warlingham Met or Surrey Police?

It is Surrey, but it was a Met operation. I think they visited a few people that morning. One of the questions the IPCC is asking is if Surrey Police were properly informed.

 

[BlackArab]

From Oracle. The Police BB's

Unfortunately true. IMHO.

 

[DJ Squelch]

In all the times my house was raided by police I don't remember them allowing me to go make a cup of tea. Not really smart to allow someone access to a pot of boiling water when you're about to screw their life up.
Probably bad reporting rather than some sort of cover up.

 

[DaveCinzano]

From: http://www.vevite.com/viewevent.php?id=4380

Justice for Smiley Culture Campaign Meeting

Where Brixton Town Hall, Brixton Hill SW2 1RW

When March 24, 2011, 7:00PM to 10:00PM

The Second public Meeting for the Official Campaign for Justice for Smiley Culture.

http://www.facebook.com/Campaign4Justice4SmileyCulture

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Updates here, including IPCC video on the investigation:
http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2011/03/smiley-culture-rip-day-7/

 

[Fozzie Bear]

http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2011/03/smiley-culture-rip-day-10/

footage of tonight's meeting and other linky roundups

A march has been called for April 16th.

 

[Mation]

Could you summarise what happened at the meeting?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

There is a summary here:

http://history-is-made-at-night.blogspot.com/2011/03/justice-for-smiley-public-meeting.html

 

[Mation]

Thanks!

 

[Fozzie Bear]

More coverage linked up from here:
http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2011/03/smiley-culture-rip-day-11/

 

[PursuedByBears]

There is a summary here:

http://history-is-made-at-night.blogspot.com/2011/03/justice-for-smiley-public-meeting.html

Cheers for keeping us all updated fozzie bear. Hopefully more will come to light soon...

 

[Fozzie Bear]

There's a delegation going to City Hall today. Also a copper has sworn under oath that Smiley stabbed himself:

http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2011/03/smiley-culture-rip-day-16/