Why the Greens are great

[xslavearcx]

"the bible is the word of god"
"how do you know"
"it says so in the bible"

a bloody brilliant argument that kept me going for years....

 

[Tom A]

Why the Greens are great... because when they die they will readily biodegrade into nothing and not leave any toxic shit behind for the next ten generations to deal with.

 

[brogdale]

Not all Greens have been great, though...have they?

...or maybe, based on the revelations in another thread, you would disagree/"take a different view"

 

[Tom A]

Strange that you talk about this, since earlier today I was reading this long but interesting piece about how environmentalist and fascists often worked hand in hand: http://www.spunk.org/texts/places/germany/sp001630/peter.html

 

[classicdish]

I thought this thread was about the Green Party (specifically the England & Wales one)? What's with all this nazi shite?

 

[SpineyNorman]

I thought this thread was about the Green Party (specifically the England & Wales one)? What's with all this nazi shite?

This one is just called 'why the greens are great'. If it were called 'why the green party is great' (along similar lines to the why the green party is shit thread) then we would have to restrict ourselves to the Green Party of England and Wales.

Fortunately it isn't - the OP fucked up and, if you take a look at the sumfront thread you'll see that he probably won't be back any time soon as he's just been outed as a racialist loon with Nazi sympathies, there's irony or poetry or something in there - so we don't

 

[classicdish]

This one is just called 'why the greens are great'. If it were called 'why the green party is great' (along similar lines to the why the green party is shit thread) then we would have to restrict ourselves to the Green Party of England and Wales.

Except that one has stuff about the nazis as well.

"The Greens" used in a UK context typically refers to the GPEW, not the environmental movement in general and definitely not entirely unrelated political parties which just happen to have some environmental policies.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Except that one has stuff about the nazis as well.

So what? We're allowed to go off on tangents - this is urban. And, just to jog your memory, the Nazi stuff was a follow up to a discussion of antisemitism within the UK Green party - a discussion of historical precedents - and therefore not off topic at all.

"The Greens" used in a UK context typically refers to the GPEW, not the environmental movement in general and definitely not entirely unrelated political parties which just happen to have some environmental policies.

Does it? Since when?

You're a member/supporter of the Nazi Conservationists Green Party aren't you? It's OK, you can admit it

 

[classicdish]

Does it? Since when?

When talking about UK politics "The Greens" means the GPEW. What do you think it means?

You're a member/supporter of the Nazi Conservationists Green Party aren't you? It's OK, you can admit it

Like a lot of people on urban75 I have voted Green in the past when I have had the option. What party/group do you support?

 

[xenon]

Eco fascism.

If only the poor peple would fuck off and die, - which they will under some wanky back to nature deep green primitivist daydream. Except the exotic, authentic subsistence farming foreign chaps, obviously.

If you don't want to toyle in the fields, you're probably an illiterate badger stamping McDonalds eating chav.

 

[Remus Harbank]

Across Europe the ‘Greens’ are nothing more than slightly rebellious Tory offspring, the same here really.

 

[butchersapron]

When talking about UK politics "The Greens" means the GPEW. What do you think it means?
Like a lot of people on urban75 I have voted Green in the past when I have had the option. What party/group do you support?

I think, given what has been revealed about the green party supporter who started this thread, that it's perfectly acceptable to investigate - indeed would be remiss not to do so, given that it keeps happening - what the poster who thinks race-mixing is toxic and others of his ilk find so attractive with the green party scabs and with wider green politics.

 

[jakethesnake]

Across Europe the ‘Greens’ are nothing more than slightly rebellious Tory offspring, the same here really.

That's certainly been the experience in Ireland and Germany, sadly.

 

[J Ed]

What happens when you try to marry environmentalism to free market capitalism and 'market incentives'.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1c273ab0-dbe4-11e2-8853-00144feab7de.html#axzz2X5CjSfch

‘Climate bomb’ warning over China coolant release

A “climate bomb” of potent greenhouse gases 15,000 times more damaging to the climate than carbon dioxide is set to be released by some of the world’s leading producers of refrigerants following a ban on climate credits.

The companies, the majority of them in China, argue that a ban on trading of climate credits for the incineration of HFC-23 makes it no longer financially viable to destroy the gas, which is a byproduct of a substance used in air conditioners and refrigerators.

A warning by the Environmental Investigation Agency in a report to be released on Monday will raise the pressure on China to ban such gases and end economic incentives for their production in multilateral talks.

Some 19 factories – 11 in China – making HCFC-22 have been receiving climate credits under the UN’s Clean Development Mechanism for installing and operating incinerators to burn HFC-23 that is created during the manufacturing process, instead of venting it into the atmosphere. Facilities in developing countries can sell emission reduction credits to buyers in developed countries to allow the latter to meet their targets under the Kyoto protocol.

However, the European Emissions Trading Scheme, the world’s largest carbon market, banned trading in those credits last month after finding that the financial incentive drove companies to produce more HFC-23 instead of curbing it. Other climate exchanges have said they will follow, causing substantial revenue streams for the producers to dry up.

The EIA said an investigation had shown that most of China’s non-CDM facilities were emitting HFC-23 already. “If all of these facilities [under the CDM] join China’s non-CDM and vent their HFC-23, they will set off a climate bomb emitting more than 2bn tonnes of CO2 equivalent emissions by 2020,” it said.

People involved in the sector in China said this was likely to happen. “If there is no more funding, the CDM plants could start venting as well,” Mei Shengfang, deputy secretary-general of the China Association of Fluorine and Silicone Industry, said. He added that authorities were considering offering support.

An executive at China Fluoro Technology, one of the largest Chinese CDM plants, said: “Our company is still incinerating the HFC-23 now. If the money is used up, we can stop incineration. We can’t go on doing this, we can’t afford it and we have no duty to do it.”
Releasing HFC-23 into the atmosphere is not illegal. China has been blocking proposals for a ban as part of multilateral talks under the Montreal Protocol to phase out hydrofluorocarbons, which continue on Monday in Bangkok.

China raised hopes this month when President Xi Jinping and President Barack Obama of the US said at a summit that they had agreed to work together to reduce the production and consumption of hydrofluorocarbons. “This is a reversal of China’s attitude, and all eyes are on China now to see if it’s for real,” said Alexander von Bismarck, executive director at EIA.

 

[eoin_k]

With friends like Melting Pot the Green Party doesn't need enemies .

 

[SpineyNorman]

When talking about UK politics "The Greens" means the GPEW. What do you think it means?
Like a lot of people on urban75 I have voted Green in the past when I have had the option. What party/group do you support?

It means Greens - people who class their politics as 'green'. I'm a member of the SP. I don't assume anyone talking about socialists is talking about us specifically though.

 

[Meltingpot]

This one is just called 'why the greens are great'. If it were called 'why the green party is great' (along similar lines to the why the green party is shit thread) then we would have to restrict ourselves to the Green Party of England and Wales.

Fortunately it isn't - the OP fucked up and, if you take a look at the sumfront thread you'll see that he probably won't be back any time soon as he's just been outed as a racialist loon with Nazi sympathies, there's irony or poetry or something in there - so we don't

Actually, wrong on both counts. I just can't be arsed to argue.

The "Nazi sympathies" is a particularly big joke when you consider that I grew up in a city (Plymouth) the centre of which had pretty much been levelled by them.

As I told Butch on Saturday night, if I was happy on Stormfront (as he seems to imagine) I would have stayed there and not taken all this crap from you, him, Spanky and all on here. But I didn't and I'm not.

TBH though I could do with spending a lot less time on boards, so as I said on that other thread, even if I don't get banned from here I might just take a big break from here anyway. It's not like we're all going to miss each other.

 

[frogwoman]

Shameless.

 

[butchersapron]

Actually, wrong on both counts. I just can't be arsed to argue.

The "Nazi sympathies" is a particularly big joke when you consider that I grew up in a city (Plymouth) the centre of which had pretty much been levelled by them.

As I told Butch on Saturday night, if I was happy on Stormfront (as he seems to imagine) I would have stayed there and not taken all this crap from you, him, Spanky and all on here. But I didn't and I'm not.

TBH though I could do with spending a lot less time on boards, so as I said on that other thread, even if I don't get banned from here I might just take a big break from here anyway. It's not like we're all going to miss each other.

You've been caught out endorsing white nationalism. Go away. Don't come back.

 

[frogwoman]

You liar. We have al;l seen those posts.

 

[Meltingpot]

You've been caught out endorsing white nationalism. Go away. Don't come back.

Butch, no I do not endorse it. It's not for you to decide whether I can come back or not - it's for the mods.

 

[frogwoman]

Butch, no I do not endorse it. It's not for you to decide whether I can come back or not - it's for the mods.

we have all seen your posts. Stop lying.

 

[Meltingpot]

You liar. We have all seen those posts.

If I endorsed WN, I wouldn't be stuck in OV, and I wouldn't get all the shit on there I've had from Fading Light, Lord Jim and others - sounds familiar?

Produce one such post, where I've endorsed WN, and I'll admit it and go. I don't recall making any at all except perhaps those where I talk about "the Orania solution" which isn't WN.

And that's the truth.

 

[frogwoman]

Plenty of examples in the other thread.

 

[butchersapron]

Butch, no I do not endorse it. It's not for you to decide whether I can come back or not - it's for the mods.

It's for pretty much every poster here to decide that - me included. You have been caught out calling 'race mixing' toxic and indefensible whilst calling yourself 'racially aware'. That makes it more than the mods problem. Don't stand on the order of it, just fuck off.

 

[butchersapron]

If I endorsed WN, I wouldn't be stuck in OV, and I wouldn't get all the shit on there I've had from Fading Light, Lord Jim and others - sounds familiar?

Produce one such post, where I've endorsed WN, and I'll admit it and go. I don't recall making any at all except perhaps those where I talk about "the Orania solution" which isn't WN.

And that's the truth.

Have you agreed that race mixing is toxic and that you are racially aware?

 

[frogwoman]

Yeah. I think it's worth saying at this point that St*rmfront doesn't owe me anything, and that whatever faults it might have I've made some good friends over there, one of whom was my so far only referral to this board

Most of them are sincere people wanting what's best for their (our) race.​

 

[coley]

Actually, wrong on both counts. I just can't be arsed to argue.

The "Nazi sympathies" is a particularly big joke when you consider that I grew up in a city (Plymouth) the centre of which had pretty much been levelled by them.

As I told Butch on Saturday night, if I was happy on Stormfront (as he seems to imagine) I would have stayed there and not taken all this crap from you, him, Spanky and all on here. But I didn't and I'm not.

TBH though I could do with spending a lot less time on boards, so as I said on that other thread, even if I don't get banned from here I might just take a big break from here anyway. It's not like we're all going to miss each other.

Sorry bonnie lad, though I had some sympathy with what, I originally thought, were your genuine attempts to introduce a broader level of discussion on here, your postings, on other sites, are ingratiatingly disgusting and show where your true sympathies lie, why you pop up on here is open to discussion,but I suspect it is to polish your empty and worthless left wing credentials on other sites.
Your not worth the mods banning you, that would indicate a level of interest you really don't deserve.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Meltingpot - what a laugh your name is. As you have hinted above, it is time for you to take the pearl-handled revolver into your room and use it to rid these boards of your dissembling and prevaricating posts. Don't attempt to return under another name, your posting style will give you away. Farewell.

 

[frogwoman]

Like on SF, if you are hard-core Anti-Jew and push the issue, in time you will wearout your welcome and be banned. Same if you question 911 or wonder why SF cannot pay its own bills with less than $7500 a month in cash...​

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Other sites like WNN do not want you to discuss the Holocaust and mention Hitler. You can get banned for that too.​

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AmRen openly accepts jews and injuns, perferring to focus on the negros instead. Same for CoCC.​

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So in time you find yourself hopping boards to say all that you have to say and crossing your fingers not to get banned at some site where you messed up and posted the wrong thing on the wrong board...​

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You were upset about the guy ive quoted above being banned. Banned from scumfront for being too racist.

Hi WW, I remember you from SF (I'm Retew on there). SF hellbans people too (bans them and deletes all their posts) which I think is a vicious way to treat someone who's made a contribution. Metalman862 (whom I got to like) posted here for a bit after that happened to him.​

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TBH, SF is such a bearpit now I post here instead. I much prefer it here.​