UVF Gunrunner Lindsay Robb Murdered

[Nigel]

Seriously though I have some sympathy with what you are saying.
By building some kind of unity and not blindly following nationalistic tendencies, it may heal some of the brutalities commted on all sides during the conflict. Rather than supporting one reactionary establishment against another..

 

[likesfish]

think you've got a while to go when thers still people wandering around claiming the only thing they said to a taig is "fuck off and die "
its not like we are going to let them all move to the mainland. Its doubtful they'd leave willingly either. In the event of a Uninited ireland with enough loyalists against the idea they could make the troubles look like a gang fight

 

[Nigel]

What do you suggest!!!
The GFA has proved itself to be a sell out!
Military solution would lead to a blood bath!

 

[fanta]

What do you suggest!!!
The GFA has proved itself to be a sell out!
Military solution would lead to a blood bath!

I don't know. I sometimes think there is no solution.

Republicans have to face up to the truth that their protestant neighbours consider themselves to be British and they intend on remaining British.

Unionists have to face up to the truth that their Catholic neighbours are as good as them, deserve equality and have the vote.

The GFA was the best nearest thing ever to peace - both republicans and unionists have played silly buggers with it and not strictly adhered to the agreement

Britishness and Irishness deserve equal treatment. Maybe there should be jont soveriegnty.

I don't know.

Thank fuck I don't have to live there.

(no disrespect to many of you Northern Ireland people, I've met enough of you to know you're not all bitter bastards)

 

[likesfish]

squaddie solution but all the protestants on boat's while all the catholics are killed. Then just to be sure sink the boats
strangely the UDR didn't get that joke .
To be fair the miltary should probably leave northan ireland as long as they promise to take everybody else who belives the solution involves violence, guns bombs and baseball bats or marching up and down and annoying your neighbours.

 

[fanta]

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about likesfish!

 

[Nigel]

This is too nonsensical for me to even bother with!!!!

 

[fanta]

This is too nonsensical for me to even bother with!!!!

That is probably what a frustrated General John de Chastelain eventually said...

 

[Yolanda250684]

Is that why you have never been given the post of Northern Ireland Secretary?

I cud laugh at u all use actually haven't a clue

 

[LiamO]

?!?

 

[likesfish]

As Far as I Remember (Files in Storage)

Robb claimed when sentenced that he had been fitted up by MI5, & others have said he had a more than passing acquaintance with same--so maybe MI5 personnel (or target) disposal could have been a motive? Keep an open mind...

Isnt that what m15 meant to do deal with bad guys one way or another?
For once they were targeting the right person.

 

[Pickman's model]

Isnt that what m15 meant to do deal with bad guys one way or another?
For once they were targeting the right person.

there is no such organisation as m15.

 

[likesfish]

Mi5 though they perferred to be called the security service or the box.
They really dont like it if you start humming the james bond theme as they walk pass.
Licenced to kill the kettle,their own toe some random passer by and thats just with a pistol Let alone their own cunning "plan"

From the people who thought training the khmer rouge to lay mines was a good idea even the sas thought was dubious

 

[SaskiaJayne]

there is no such organisation as m15.

Pedants thread------>

 

[Pickman's model]

Mi5 though they perferred to be called the security service or the box.
They really dont like it if you start humming the james bond theme as they walk pass.
Licenced to kill the kettle,their own toe some random passer by and thats just with a pistol Let alone their own cunning "plan"

From the people who thought training the khmer rouge to lay mines was a good idea even the sas thought was dubious

james bond was mi6. it was the conservative party who thought it a good idea to train the khmer rouge to lay mines.

 

[likesfish]

yes but nobody knows how to hum the spooks themeplus they hate being confused with mi6 or the secret intelligence service if your a pendant.
either Maggie's sleep deprived fantasy or somebody who thought of themselves as a spook came up with that brilliance

 

[N_igma]

But when the British took the gloves off abit and shot a few of them we have never heard the fucking end of it.

8 year old thread but that is telling. Very telling.

 

[Casually Red]

dearie dearie me...tut tut

classy

 

[Casually Red]

hes not the anarchist messiah...hes a very naughty boy

 

[revol68]

it's hardly news that the provos were hypocrites in their claim to be fighting a war, happy to shoot people off duty and out of uniform (a war crime by all standards) yet whinge about due process when they get shot on active duty themselves.

They also had a policy of denying their own volunteers when they got shot by loyalists as part of their propaganda efforts.

 

[revol68]

8 year old thread but that is telling. Very telling.

it's just a fact, they talked about war but never really believed it. Soldiers don't cry about the other side firing back, they don't launch an assault with automatic weapons on an enemy base and cry that they got shot rather than arrested and put through the criminal justice system.

 

[N_igma]

There's a difference between getting shot while on active service but shoot to kill policies are completely different. Unlike the IRA or loyalists who are only accountable to themselves, the RUC and British army have rules they need to adhere to. Time an time again they flouted this, colluded with loyalists and shot people they shouldn't have shot.

Again I think it's very interesting that a self-purported anarchist who believes in a borderless utopia can sanction state violence so easily. You're a man of many contradictions.

 

[LiamO]

You're a man of many contradictions.

... and an embarrassingly small penis

 

[LiamO]

anyways, Orange Lil, what have you to say about the 120+ killings of 'innocent' catholics by elements within the police and army mob in mid-Ulster in the 70's/early 80's. Here is a clearly laid out and documented (by a team of english policemen) campaign of assassination and terror waged against not Republicans, not 'random' catholics, but against the very aspirant, emerging catholic-business class they were supposed to be encouraging as an alternative to militant republicanism?

 

[LiamO]

it's just a fact, they talked about war but never really believed it. Soldiers don't cry about the other side firing back...

nor did the IRA Volunteers.

The people who did cry foul were the political representatives of republicanism... because they saw a political point... and political capital to be made... in exposing the political hypocrisy of the british state.

The fact that you can see no distinction between the actions and statements of the military and political is instructive... but not really cos you are a sad, bigoted, racist, sectarian 'anna-kissed'... and about as anti-state/anarchist as my left testicle.

 

[Casually Red]

hes a fucking unionist,

 

[revol68]

It's the chucky chuckle brothers.

 

[manny-p]

... and an embarrassingly small penis

Why the obsession with Revols penis?lol

 

[Pickman's model]

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[likesfish]

Still think the latest round of peace talks should have been. liz says nobody gets any flags bunting ffs or parades till you can play nicely.
If your supposedly loyalists start showing some fucking loyalty to the crown and obey the fucking law or I'll sell you to the pope