The Fall - new series on BBC2

[JimW]

because rose might still be alive and if they nick him he might not tell them, leaving her to die.

Ah, of course. Stupid me.

 

[frogwoman]

i'm not quite buying his not-very-gradual opening up to the teenager.

Ya think? To be honest I think that's believable - look at ian watkins etc

 

[frogwoman]

Also, those books he was hiding - ugh ugh ugh

 

[felixthecat]

Ya think? To be honest I think that's believable - look at ian watkins etc

I agree. His manipulation of the besotted teenager is creepier than creepy and I find it incredibly uncomfortable to watch. It was a long time ago but I remember being that girl (albeit not with a murderer).

 

[frogwoman]

I agree. His manipulation of the besotted teenager is creepier than creepy and I find it incredibly uncomfortable to watch. It was a long time ago but I remember being that girl (albeit not with a murderer).

Me too. Although not to that extent, but I was talking to people as a teenager that I never should have.

Think people who say it's not believable are being very naive.

 

[spanglechick]

Me too. Although not to that extent, but I was talking to people as a teenager that I never should have.

Think people who say it's not believable are being very naive.

Thanks.

The reason I think this isn't believable is that he is obsessive about control and secrecy (Ian Watkins was a chaotic meth addict), and she is unpredictable and unreliable. She's already done things he didn't want her to. I don't think he would trust anyone - but if he did, it would be someone far weaker.

 

[frogwoman]

Thanks.

The reason I think this isn't believable is that he is obsessive about control and secrecy (Ian Watkins was a chaotic meth addict), and she is unpredictable and unreliable. She's already done things he didn't want her to. I don't think he would trust anyone - but if he did, it would be someone far weaker.

Fair enough. Serial killers do tend to make more and more mistakes though the more arrogant they get...

 

[frogwoman]

Thanks.

The reason I think this isn't believable is that he is obsessive about control and secrecy (Ian Watkins was a chaotic meth addict), and she is unpredictable and unreliable. She's already done things he didn't want her to. I don't think he would trust anyone - but if he did, it would be someone far weaker.

I didn't mean you when I typed that, I was referring to some of the reviews in the papers etc...

 

[Red Cat]

Thanks.

The reason I think this isn't believable is that he is obsessive about control and secrecy (Ian Watkins was a chaotic meth addict), and she is unpredictable and unreliable. She's already done things he didn't want her to. I don't think he would trust anyone - but if he did, it would be someone far weaker.

I don't think he trusts her, it's that she's safer under his control than not. Maybe!

 

[spanglechick]

I think he'd see her as a threat and kill her.

 

[Red Cat]

I think he'd see her as a threat and kill her.

For the reasons you've given I think he does see her as a threat. Not sure why he hasn't killed her so I'm assuming there's a plan.

 

[frogwoman]

For the reasons you've given I think he does see her as a threat. Not sure why he hasn't killed her so I'm assuming there's a plan.

I am assuming his plan was to kill her eventually tbh. I think he wants to get her to take part in a murder before he does so.

 

[Wilf]

I think it's still really compelling - it's a tale of 2 faces really, the cops and the killers. Lingering shots of both of them with very still faces. Same time, there were quite a few elements in that last episode that were overly telegraphed...

Spoiler: such as...

the fact that the killer would find something out about the hairdresser having been at the hospital and - most of all - the ceiling coming down.

You do expect that in thriller/cop stories, the audience having more knowledge than the cops, but they are overdoing it a bit.

 

[frogwoman]

I think it's still really compelling - it's a tale of 2 faces really, the cops and the killers. Lingering shots of both of them with very still faces. Same time, there were quite a few elements in that last episode that were overly telegraphed...

Spoiler: such as...

the fact that the killer would find something out about the hairdresser having been at the hospital and - most of all - the ceiling coming down.

You do expect that in thriller/cop stories, the audience having more knowledge than the cops, but they are overdoing it a bit.

Spoiler

the killer booked the hairdresser appointment

 

[frogwoman]

Thanks.

The reason I think this isn't believable is that he is obsessive about control and secrecy (Ian Watkins was a chaotic meth addict), and she is unpredictable and unreliable. She's already done things he didn't want her to. I don't think he would trust anyone - but if he did, it would be someone far weaker.

He was a chaotic meth addict but he still held it together enough to go on tour with the band and sell millions and keep the rumours at bay for many years.. It wasn't as though he was going around announcing what he was doing to everyone...

 

[frogwoman]

Bloody hell. I liked that episode. Glad that they have got the scumbag in custody. I thought the bit where the fash were chasing him and he killed one of them was good. Except I kind of wanted them all to die.

 

[Pickman's model]

i kept waiting for the harrowing scenes we were promised

 

[belboid]

Bloody hell. I liked that episode. Glad that they have got the scumbag in custody. I thought the bit where the fash were chasing him and he killed one of them was good. Except I kind of wanted them all to die.

Copper killed the bloke, didnt he?

A decently paced episode, the look on his face as he was briefly allowed to walk away was priceless.

Another entirely surplus pseudo-lesbian flirtation thrown in tho.

 

[frogwoman]

Copper killed the bloke, didnt he?

A decently paced episode, the look on his face s he was briefly allowed to walk away was priceless.

Another entirely surplus pseudo-lesbian flirtation thrown in tho.

Ah yea of course.

Yeah, I wondered what that was all about at the end.

 

[frogwoman]

The bit where rose was being filmed? Nasty

i kept waiting for the harrowing scenes we were promised

 

[Pickman's model]

The bit where rose was being filmed? Nasty

yeh. but that was too obvious.

 

[felixthecat]

A decently paced episode, the look on his face as he was briefly allowed to walk away was priceless.

Can't wait for the last episode.

Jamie Dornan has so much promise as an actor - I hope 50 Shades doesn't fuck things up for him. Its either going to be a career maker and he'll become a global superstar or a career breaker and we'll never heard of him again.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Copper killed the bloke, didnt he?

A decently paced episode, the look on his face as he was briefly allowed to walk away was priceless.

And the slow mo as he was being taken into the police station. You could almost see all the mad ideas rushing through his head.

 

[Shirl]

Is he going to survive for another series?

 

[JimW]

Is he going to survive for another series?

I fear so. Was alternately disappointed and annoyed through that.

 

[Shirl]

I fear so. Was alternately disappointed and annoyed through that.

I've been enjoying this series but this last episode didn't do it for me. I expect I'll end up watching the next one though.

 

[JimW]

I've been enjoying this series but this last episode didn't do it for me. I expect I'll end up watching the next one though.

Similar feelings for me. Couldn't help being reminded of the scene in Hunger where Sands is talking to a priest in prison, real sense of two world-views clashing, and how less convincing as two independent human beings Stella and Spector seemed when she interviews him, more like the writer's cod philosophy hour.

 

[peterkro]

I was impressed by the last episode seemed to be of a much higher level than the proceeding episodes many of which I couldn't watch.

 

[JimW]

Suppose it was lucky the police chopper guided the mad wife-beater to his man, and covered the sound of him crashing through the undergrowth.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

What happened in the last 30 seconds? (My recordings keep cutting ends of programmes out). Last I saw was that the cop and Spector had been shot and then recording stopped