Police and UKBA to ransack Brixton (Thursday 6th March)
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TopCat
Putin fanboy
His cod Jamaican accent?Would Lee use his northern accent, or his London accent when addressing Brixton punters through his megaphone?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Ah yeah, button showed me that pic earlier on twitter. Apparently the OB have just tried to arrest Lee Jasper outside the station now
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Both me and Lee Jasper enjoyed some of the vegetable curry - though Lee ate his mounted on his bicycle, which my mother would have considered rude.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I find the comment by Lee Jasper , on his blog, offensive:
As a long standing resident of central Brixton I have dealt with noise problems over the years. Race has nothing to do with it.
If Brixton is to remain a mixed business/ residential area issues of noise from shops/ night clubs are a legitimate issue to be addressed by residents.
Lee Jasper does not live in Brixton. He has not got a clue about Brixton imo.
Sirena
Don't monkey with the buzzsaw
Are you sure? I was talking to Blacka Dread one time and he told me about how he and a group of friends went to pay an unexpected 'call' on Lee Jasper over some issue regarding Brixton which had annoyed them. I'm sure Blacka said he lived in an ordinary house in one of those streets round by the Ritzy. Anyway, Blacka said he came away well impressed by the man.
And one time Lee Jasper got some money out of the GLC for Brixton and there was loads of propaganda in the Evening Standard about corruption and suchlike but it all went into a proper set up business which required at least two signatures to get any money out. They offered Lee Jasper a bit of a kick-back for getting the money but he refused to accept anything.
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
A couple of things Sirena
1. Last time I checked Lee lived in Atherfold Road - which to my mind counts as Clapham North.
2. Lee has certainly been done over by the press, but he courts publicity. I am not sure what you mean by saying that if an account required 2 signatures to withdraw money, therefore that money cannot be misapplied.In case anyone is interested here is a résumé on the scandal from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2008/03/11/tim_donovan_jasper_feature.shtml
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
So the police listened to the local community and changed the plan to accommodate but everyone's still annoyed?
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
To clarify.
Brixton is and always has been a mixed area. Portugese, Latin Americans, North Africans, Afro- Caribbeans and Asians. That is not exhaustive list.
I’m sure Lee Jasper is very good at sticking up for his own community. That does not mean he has a great understanding of a complex area like Brixton.
The Evening Standard attacks on him , imo, were politically motivated. I am not interested in that kind of personalised attack.
My problem with Lee Jasper is that I find his kind of politics which foregrounds race before anything else divisive.
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Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I was around Brixton this afternoon. Lots of cops around. Wandering about with florescent jackets on so u could see the a mile off. Good idea if u want to keep clear of them. Also saw what I assumed to be Council officials armed with clipboards walking about. Trying to look important.
Went to Ritzy. So had a look at the surreal events on Windrush square.
Not sure what lost cats and dogs have got to do with policing.
Didn’t feel like hanging around the square with so many cops about. Makes me feel uncomfortable.
I am at a loss what the point of this whole exercise was supposed to do.
If there are concerns about lack of police its one of the things that the Council just has cut. That is funding for Community Support officers. Also the Park Rangers were axed a while back.
This operation was timed just after swinging cuts to public services, including policing.
I didn’t see the cops do any stop and search. So not the same as "Operation Swamp" back just before first Brixton riot. Which I remember. I was stopped and searched. Operation Swamp was very heavy handed and went on for several days not just one.
Went to Ritzy. So had a look at the surreal events on Windrush square.
Not sure what lost cats and dogs have got to do with policing.
Didn’t feel like hanging around the square with so many cops about. Makes me feel uncomfortable.
I am at a loss what the point of this whole exercise was supposed to do.
If there are concerns about lack of police its one of the things that the Council just has cut. That is funding for Community Support officers. Also the Park Rangers were axed a while back.
This operation was timed just after swinging cuts to public services, including policing.
I didn’t see the cops do any stop and search. So not the same as "Operation Swamp" back just before first Brixton riot. Which I remember. I was stopped and searched. Operation Swamp was very heavy handed and went on for several days not just one.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Following on from meetings with members of Lambeth's community, including CPCG reps, local residents and youth providers, the council and the police have made the following changes to plans for tomorrow's op:
No UKBA involvement,
No arrests or fines for ASB offence such as spitting
No arrests for street drinking
The police also clarified that the 'tenancy enforcement' will not be about evictions, rather, its part of the on-going of targeting households identified as causing trouble, asb, etc. Apparently, 6 am raids on gang members' homes was never part of this operation. There will also be support and advice for homeless people.
Thanks for doing this shygirl. Sterling effort.
I am really glad UKBA were not involved. Its totally insensitive , in a multicultural area like Brixton, to send in these thugs.
I do not care a toss about peoples immigration status.
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I think it was supposed to be a community event showing the police in a friendly approachable light.
As I said earlier in the thread the publicity was poorly produced, barely distributed and gave a mixed message, suggesting that this was some type of operation - which is what Lee Jasper & co picked up on.
That said something certainly did seem to be going on at the tube station - though I couldn't see what it was, when I went to top up my Oyster card about 4.30 pm. Several visibility jacketed police were at the top of the escalators and by the ticket barriers, holding up the flow of passengers.
I did not actually see dogs - despite the cardboard warning notices being waved by demonstrators outside the tube. The demonstrators (none of whom were black) looked like the anti- Champagne and Fromage set. They were actually causing an obstruction at the tube entrance, so no doubt the police moved them on in due course.
editor
hiraethified
Puddy_Tat
santa paws, do you ever come to the ghetto?
headline was "How the Met spied on Stephen Lawrence's parents"
snowy_again
Slush
Yes I'm fortunately free from seeing that too and can't see anything online, so a picture would be kind...
I avoided the tube, but saw a fair few uniforms issuing tickets / notices / cautions around the beehive, but also looking after a well dressed elder bloke who looked a bit worse for wear. All the music cabins on Atlantic Road were closed. A steam of young well dressed kids were coming from the tube, and I assume going to Mass for A3 or something else?
I avoided the tube, but saw a fair few uniforms issuing tickets / notices / cautions around the beehive, but also looking after a well dressed elder bloke who looked a bit worse for wear. All the music cabins on Atlantic Road were closed. A steam of young well dressed kids were coming from the tube, and I assume going to Mass for A3 or something else?
Thanks Puddy_Tat
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
editor
hiraethified
Photos from yesterday:
More: http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2014/03/...mbeth-police-in-brixton-proves-a-pr-disaster/
More: http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2014/03/...mbeth-police-in-brixton-proves-a-pr-disaster/
Listen, whatever people say about Lee, were it not for him, awareness of yesterday's events would have been very limited. He has his 'constituency' (for want of a better term) and he fights for it. Yes, he's a politician, he can be divisive, not everyone will agree with his analysis, and he's very good at self-promotion, but baby and bathwater come to mind. Lee is very astute, an excellent speaker and negotiator in meetings and, in spite of all the criticisms, he does much to keep injustices against the Black community in the fore.
urbanspaceman
Well-Known Member
You might have seen the Channel 4 news report last night.
http://bcove.me/4772d9yj
Something seemed a bit off about it. It turns out that the reporter, Jordan Jarrett-Bryan, merely interviewed a gaggle of his friends/colleagues, and passed this off as a reflection of the view of Brixton at large. It's difficult enough to find any accurate and non-superficial reporting on Brixton, and this sort of nonsense doesn't help. I sent the email below to Jackie Long, Social Affairs Editor and presenter. I wonder what she will say.
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Dear Jackie Long
I’ve lived in central Brixton for 30 years, and so I watched Jordan Jarrett-Bryan’s report last night with interest. But as he developed his case, I became puzzled by the seeming uniformity of his vox pop respondents’ views. Because, the thing is, it’s pretty much impossible to find anyone in Brixton who shares an opinion with anyone else.
So I looked into the backgrounds of the interviewees.
Naomi Brown was credited on screen as Youth Development Mentor at advertising agency Levity
Matthew Peltier. No affiliation was disclosed in the report. LinkedIn reveals that he is Senior Producer at Levity
Beulah Lambert. No affiliation was disclosed in the report. Linkedin reveals that she is Account Manager at Livity
Henry Houdini. No affiliation was disclosed in the report. Linkedin reveals that he is Junior Assistant Producer at Livity
Jarrett-Brown signs off: "I found little hope of change here…” But he does not reflect the views of the Brixton at large - rather the party line of staff at advertising agency Livity. By the way, Jarrett-Brown used to work at Livity and later, when he went freelance, he rented office space there. So what we really saw last night was actually a choreographed performance by a clique of Jarrett-Brown’s friends and colleagues. There was one independent interviewee; inevitably it was Lee Jasper.
This is terribly shoddy journalism.
What do you think ?
Regards
Urbanspaceman
http://bcove.me/4772d9yj
Something seemed a bit off about it. It turns out that the reporter, Jordan Jarrett-Bryan, merely interviewed a gaggle of his friends/colleagues, and passed this off as a reflection of the view of Brixton at large. It's difficult enough to find any accurate and non-superficial reporting on Brixton, and this sort of nonsense doesn't help. I sent the email below to Jackie Long, Social Affairs Editor and presenter. I wonder what she will say.
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Dear Jackie Long
I’ve lived in central Brixton for 30 years, and so I watched Jordan Jarrett-Bryan’s report last night with interest. But as he developed his case, I became puzzled by the seeming uniformity of his vox pop respondents’ views. Because, the thing is, it’s pretty much impossible to find anyone in Brixton who shares an opinion with anyone else.
So I looked into the backgrounds of the interviewees.
Naomi Brown was credited on screen as Youth Development Mentor at advertising agency Levity
Matthew Peltier. No affiliation was disclosed in the report. LinkedIn reveals that he is Senior Producer at Levity
Beulah Lambert. No affiliation was disclosed in the report. Linkedin reveals that she is Account Manager at Livity
Henry Houdini. No affiliation was disclosed in the report. Linkedin reveals that he is Junior Assistant Producer at Livity
Jarrett-Brown signs off: "I found little hope of change here…” But he does not reflect the views of the Brixton at large - rather the party line of staff at advertising agency Livity. By the way, Jarrett-Brown used to work at Livity and later, when he went freelance, he rented office space there. So what we really saw last night was actually a choreographed performance by a clique of Jarrett-Brown’s friends and colleagues. There was one independent interviewee; inevitably it was Lee Jasper.
This is terribly shoddy journalism.
What do you think ?
Regards
Urbanspaceman
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I think he gets into a state about things and he single handedly cranked up the situation yesterday. He should go on a self-awareness course.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
should have complained to channel 4 too.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
good work urbanspaceman
proper shoddy journalism indeed!
proper shoddy journalism indeed!
urbanspaceman
Well-Known Member
I sent that message to the Channel 4 newsroom
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