Peaky Blinders

[Spanky Longhorn]

I'd watch a spin off which was just him wandering around 1920's London being completely over the top

Man crush?

 

[mr steev]

I would like to know discokermit opinions on the black country accents featured this ep

I finally caught up with it the other day. It's good that they actually had a different accent for the Black Country characters rather than just a poor generic brummy accent but they mostly sounded toe curlingly fake to me

 

[mr steev]

Cor.

Can't?

 

[rekil]

Tom Hardy said he killed an Italian in the trenches, but the Italians were on the allied side in WW1. Was he on the cockernee austro-hungarian front?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Tom Hardy said he killed an Italian in the trenches, but the Italians were on the allied side in WW1. Was he on the cockernee austro-hungarian front?

I assumed he meant during an argument or summat not on opposing sides

 

[rekil]

I assumed he meant during an argument or summat not on opposing sides

I thought it might be that too but hammering a nail up someone's nose was a death penalty offence. Maybe he got away with it by covering it up - weekend at bernie's style. I dunno, it just sounded shoddy to me. Hardy was freestyling imo.

Anyway, too much Nick Cave. I can't hear it anymore without thinking of Vic Reeves's club singer doing ZZ Top's Sharp Dressed Man.

 

[DotCommunist]

there was a cover version sung by a woman last week, that was different

 

[Betsy]

I think he's an excellent actor, I can't stop watching him (if that makes sense). I've just watched episodes 2,3 & 4. Still enjoyable if perhaps not as thrilling as the first series.

Doesn't work for me in this.

 

[discokermit]

I would like to know discokermit opinions on the black country accents featured this ep

just catching up on iplayer.
the accent is interesting. it's very close but the rhythm is a bit off and overall it's a bit unnatural. a good attempt though and the actor obviously did some research so it might be something to do with the script or the direction. if it had been a full on nineteen twenties black country accent no fucker would have understood it.
and even black country people struggle to do a convincing black country accent when put in front of a camera.

 

[Blagsta]

there was a cover version sung by a woman last week, that was different

"a woman"? That was Polly Jean Harvey, you philistine!

 

[mr steev]

and even black country people struggle to do a convincing black country accent when put in front of a camera.

Here's quite a rare recording of a working class bloke (recorded 1916-1918 whilst he was a POW in WW1 ). The heading says Wolverhampton, but he's from Himley
http://www.theguardian.com/world/audio/2009/nov/09/first-world-war?guni=Article:in body link

I guess he's talking quite slowly and pronounced, but it's still quite different from how people talk there today. Even today the accents from different areas are quite pronounced, I'd imagine a hundred years ago it would've been more so. I did hear one person pronounce 'A' as 'Air' as in face/fairce, baker/bairker (as the guy in the recording does) which to me is one of the things that sets the BC accent apart from Wolves

 

[discokermit]

Here's quite a rare recording of a working class bloke (recorded 1916-1918 whilst he was a POW in WW1 ). The heading says Wolverhampton, but he's from Himley
http://www.theguardian.com/world/audio/2009/nov/09/first-world-war?guni=Article:in body link

I guess he's talking quite slowly and pronounced, but it's still quite different from how people talk there today. Even today the accents from different areas are quite pronounced, I'd imagine a hundred years ago it would've been more so. I did hear one person pronounce 'A' as 'Air' as in face/fairce, baker/bairker (as the guy in the recording does) which to me is one of the things that sets the BC accent apart from Wolves

the 'a' thing is quite common, in bilston anyway. i do it.
the only difference with modern black country i could hear there was ''mony' for 'many', which apart from a few words which cling on (mon, ond, bonk for man, hand, bank) seems to be dying out. i've never heard 'away' pronounced like that either.
i call thode mon fairtha (faetha?) an orl.

 

[mr steev]

the 'a' thing is quite common, in bilston anyway. i do it.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I've got a mate from Bilston who's quite broad and does it. It also reminds me of people I know from Walsall and Darlaston. I'd imagine it was even more common a hundred years ago? But it wasn't that obvious in the episode*. (but it was hinted at, which was good)
You're right about the rhythm. I couldn't put my finger on it when I first watched it, it just didn't sound right. I think the recording probably lacks some of that too, as the guy is concentrating on what he's saying rather than just saying it iyswim

* I also think it's one of the hardest sounds to immitate convincingly, so maybe that's why the actors shied away from it abit

 

[youngian]

Tom Hardy said he killed an Italian in the trenches, but the Italians were on the allied side in WW1. Was he on the cockernee austro-hungarian front?

None of this would deter Tom's Dinsdale Pirahnna character from teaching him a lesson.

Having abandoned the first series fairly quickly this is turning into a cracking yarn. Fair play for all concrend for giving it another try. I'm sure Cillian Murphy in particular is not short of good material passing his way.

 

[discokermit]

i think the alliance of the black country mob with the brummie gang is where the story got ridiculous. the black country lot would have beaten up the brummies and then each other long before they got to london.

 

[Espresso]

I liked tonight's last one. More ahoy, by the looks of that. Yay!

Tommy Shelby must be made of the same stuff they make cockroaches and Tesco carrier bags out of, because he's absolutely and utterly indy-bloody-structible.

Can Major Campbell survive yet another bullet from an angry woman on the last day? Will Sam Neill have to walk with two clanking walking sticks next time?

How Arthur is still alive is a mystery to me.

I felt right proper sorry for Izzy tonight. Great work from the actress. Whose name I shamefully do not know.

And I think Michael will take after his cousin Tommy except that he'll be even more ruthless and hard and gobsmackingly clever and bastardious.

May posh totty will end up killing pregnant/recently sprogged Grace, you mark my words.

 

[DotCommunist]

best episode of the season so far. Start to finish quality

 

[DotCommunist]

'My name is Thomas Shelby. Today I'm going to kill a man'

not only is that a killer line, the opening letter writing was a neat bit of unobtrusive exposition.

 

[Libertad]

Excellent episode in an excellent series. One thing that stays with me, having watched this last night, is my frustration with

Spoiler

Tommy having left his fob and chain at the field graveside.

 

[dolly's gal]

oh my god, last night's episode and series ending was STRONG.

"get out the grave, tinker"

shame about the Grace resurgence. I find her character deeply insipid

 

[Libertad]

I felt right proper sorry for Izzy tonight. Great work from the actress. Whose name I shamefully do not know.

Lizzy Starke? She's played by Natasha O'Keeffe. Hth

 

[red & green]

"Don't fuck with the Peaky Blinders!!" Go Polly

Great final - big respect to Cillian Murphy what a great final performance - hope Grace will go to America and disappear - thomas has to marry May she has the power and influence to help the family "business" - can't wait until s3 - really enjoyed this

 

[DotCommunist]

Just found out Sam Niel was Norn Iron born so that makes his bad accent in this all the funnier

 

[neonwilderness]

Just finished watching season two, excellent stuff!

Good soundtrack too

 

[dolly's gal]

So it's May good people, series 3 is being shown in May

 

[felixthecat]

I'm more excited about this than I really should be
Can't wait *squeeeeeee*

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Great news - Pol might even sound like a Brummie and not a scouser in this series!

 

[Spod]

Out May is it? Oh yes looking forward to that. If you track through series 1 and 2, many of the brummie accents of the lead characters become more progressively more convincing. In fairness they are difficult to do, based on my experience of people attempting to take the piss out of mine. Cilian's was near enough immaculate though, as is his icy blue eyes and cheekbones (if anyone could turn me gay its Cilian )

 

[mr steev]

Out May is it? Oh yes looking forward to that. If you track through series 1 and 2, many of the brummie accents of the lead characters become more progressively more convincing. In fairness they are difficult to do, based on my experience of people attempting to take the piss out of mine.

I remember reading something a while ago, when it first came out (maybe from the creators with some input from by Carl Chinn irrc) about the authenticity of the accents, and that back then the accent of today was still being formed with the mixing of the old brummie accent with that of the newcomers (mostly Irish and Scouse)

 

[Spod]

So they were saying the dodgy accents were deliberate? Yeh right! if so the accent of my late granddad who was a young lad around this time must have 'evolved' also.

I remember reading something a while ago, when it first came out (maybe from the creators with some input from by Carl Chinn irrc) about the authenticity of the accents, and that back then the accent of today was still being formed with the mixing of the old brummie accent with that of the newcomers (mostly Irish and Scouse)