Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Bet Vince Cable wishes he hadn't done his bit of 'macho boasting in front of the young female reporters' thing. If he'd done anything like his stated intention of fucking Murdoch over (and I'm far from sure he ever would) he'd be competing with Tom Watson as the brave fighter for truth and justice. But he didn't. And he's a cunt. And a LIb-Dem. And a politician. So, fuck him. 
weltweit
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Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Whilst anecdotally true, it's always struck me that it puts those who genuinely do have their fullest confidence in who/whatever in a bit of a bind. If you tell the truth, it looks like you have no confidence, if you keep quiet, it looks like you have no confidence.
Poor bastards
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Bet Vince Cable wishes he hadn't done his bit of 'macho boasting in front of the young female reporters' thing. If he'd done anything like his stated intention of fucking Murdoch over (and I'm far from sure he ever would) he'd be competing with Tom Watson as the brave fighter for truth and justice. But he didn't. And he's a cunt. And a LIb-Dem. And a politician. So, fuck him.
Its a shame that Tom Watson is seen as the "brave fighter for truth and justice" in all of this - if anyone deserves that accolade its Nick Davies.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Sometimes with resignations there has to be a 'decent interval' between the original expression of confidence and the actual departure. If nothing else, Cameron looks like/more of a complete clown if he goes today or tomorrow.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Perhaps - though its worth bearing in mind that the evidence that has kicked all this off came almost exclusively from NI itself, who have a strong interest in (at least as much as possible) making the story not about them. (edit) Its possible that Hunt will try to put out his own version of events when he appears at Leveson (or in Parliament itself).
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
True. Whilst I admire Watson's personal resilience in all of this, his strategy was pretty poor at the Select Committee and he didn't get anything out of them (from memory). Looked like he was a bit hyped up to be honest and after some kind of coup de grace. Needed to be a bit more forensic, which to be fair to him he was in the months before the hearing.
1%er
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Hunt is also the Olympics minister so it will be very damaging for him to go just before they start.
I heard Iain Dale say on the radio something along the lines of "I was told that Rupert Murdoch said he will do for Hunt and Cameron" he may say more in his own show that starts soon.
Will be interesting to hear what RM has to say tomorrow.
I heard Iain Dale say on the radio something along the lines of "I was told that Rupert Murdoch said he will do for Hunt and Cameron" he may say more in his own show that starts soon.
Will be interesting to hear what RM has to say tomorrow.
1%er
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Iain Dale has just confirmed that he was told Rupert Murdoch said "he was going to get Cameron and Hunt", he is well connected and right more then he is wrong.
Tomorrow RM could really fuck Cameron, what Cameron knew when is going to be really important, this time tomorrow he may be under pressure to go.
Tomorrow RM could really fuck Cameron, what Cameron knew when is going to be really important, this time tomorrow he may be under pressure to go.
So its all down to some PR gilding the lily
The name of an adviser who's actually called "Adam Smith" has come up. Sources close to laptop were "not surprised"
1%er
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You couldn't make it upThe name of an adviser who's actually called "Adam Smith" has come up. Sources close to laptop were "not surprised"
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
He's going to try to blame the civil service. The people who can really bury him if they want to. Bless those stupid Tory boys.Looks like Hunt is going to try and hang around, he is claiming that some of the phone calls and meetings JM spoke about in his evidence did not take place.
So its all down to some PR gilding the lily
Same mistake Murdoch made trying to blame his staff. The arrogance of power can be a beautiful thing to behold.
You couldn't make it up
Appeared so, er, fresh out of PPE at Magdalen that "spotty youth" was likely to be an aspiration for his future... friends of laptop said.
And not a civil servant - probably a member of Hunt's staff. Such people speak for their bosses. And frequently think for them too. No get-out for Hunt there - just the option of denumciation.
1%er
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I think he is being called a "special adviser"
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
I think we can all agree that it's time to call a spad a spad.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
TBF Kelner certainly seems comes over as a fucking fuckwit.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Who are purely political animals, appointed directly by the ruling party.
*sings*
There may be trouble ahead ... but while there's Murdochs and Cameron, and Hunt, all those cunts ... they'll face the music while we dance
1%er
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One of the email from here
Tot
Co:
From:
Sent:
Subject:
Anderson, Matthew’~
Michel, Frederic
Mon 15/11/2010 11:32:42 AM
Hunt meeting - urgent
Jeremy tried to call you. He has received very strong legal advice not to meet us today as the current
process is treated as a judicial one (not a policy one) and any meeting could be referred to and jeopardize
the entire process. Jeremy is very frustrated about it but the Permanent Secretary has now also been
involved.
My advice would be not to meet him today as it would be counter-productive for everyone, but you could
have a chat with him on his mobile which is completely fine, and I will liaise with his team privately as well.
Let’s discuss
Fred -..
Fred
Frederic Michel
Director, Public Afi~airs, Europe
News Corporation
tel:
mob:’!
So don't have a meeting that will be recorded and minuted just give him a ring and keep it off the record
Tot
Co:
From:
Sent:
Subject:
Anderson, Matthew’~
Michel, Frederic
Mon 15/11/2010 11:32:42 AM
Hunt meeting - urgent
Jeremy tried to call you. He has received very strong legal advice not to meet us today as the current
process is treated as a judicial one (not a policy one) and any meeting could be referred to and jeopardize
the entire process. Jeremy is very frustrated about it but the Permanent Secretary has now also been
involved.
My advice would be not to meet him today as it would be counter-productive for everyone, but you could
have a chat with him on his mobile which is completely fine, and I will liaise with his team privately as well.
Let’s discuss
Fred -..
Fred
Frederic Michel
Director, Public Afi~airs, Europe
News Corporation
tel:
mob:’!
So don't have a meeting that will be recorded and minuted just give him a ring and keep it off the record
1%er
Well-Known Member
From: Michel, Frederic
Sent: 24 January 2011 15:21
To: JRM
Co: Anderson, Matthew; Palker, Jeff; Appella, Andrea; Macandrew, Alice
Subject: CONFIDENTIAL - JH STATEMENT
Managed to get some infos on the plans for tomorrow [ although absolutely
illegal..>!]
Press statement at 7.30am and Parliament statement at 9.30am [ identical]
Lots of legal issues around the statement so he has tried to get a version which
helps us by qualifying the threats identified by Ofcom
He will thus confirm that Ofcom recommended him to refer.
JH will announce that "he is minded that maybe the case that a merger may
operate against the public interest and it’s in his own right that he wishes to look at
any undertaking that have the potential to prevent the potential threats of media
plurality identified in the Ofcom report"
He will then say that News Corp wished for him to consider a UIL and he has
asked Ofcom and OFT to assist him in that process
He will also say that once the UIL is satisfactory [ not final language], he will call
for a public consultation which will run for 15 days
He won’t give a deadline for Ofcom and Q F.,T consultation but wants it to be done
very fast
He is keen to see JRM on Wednesday or Thursday to finalise the viability side of
the UIL
The documents will be posted-0n the DCMS website when the Parliament
statement is published
He said that the key for us tomorrow was to be able to sustain the heat around
Ofcom recommending a referral and making sure we put our arguments from the
submissions out.
Sent: 24 January 2011 15:21
To: JRM
Co: Anderson, Matthew; Palker, Jeff; Appella, Andrea; Macandrew, Alice
Subject: CONFIDENTIAL - JH STATEMENT
Managed to get some infos on the plans for tomorrow [ although absolutely
illegal..>!]
Press statement at 7.30am and Parliament statement at 9.30am [ identical]
Lots of legal issues around the statement so he has tried to get a version which
helps us by qualifying the threats identified by Ofcom
He will thus confirm that Ofcom recommended him to refer.
JH will announce that "he is minded that maybe the case that a merger may
operate against the public interest and it’s in his own right that he wishes to look at
any undertaking that have the potential to prevent the potential threats of media
plurality identified in the Ofcom report"
He will then say that News Corp wished for him to consider a UIL and he has
asked Ofcom and OFT to assist him in that process
He will also say that once the UIL is satisfactory [ not final language], he will call
for a public consultation which will run for 15 days
He won’t give a deadline for Ofcom and Q F.,T consultation but wants it to be done
very fast
He is keen to see JRM on Wednesday or Thursday to finalise the viability side of
the UIL
The documents will be posted-0n the DCMS website when the Parliament
statement is published
He said that the key for us tomorrow was to be able to sustain the heat around
Ofcom recommending a referral and making sure we put our arguments from the
submissions out.
1%er
Well-Known Member
This is damning as it clearly shows he was speaking to JH and not his advisers unless his advisers were also at the swan lake unless Frederic Michel is telling lies
To:
Cc_=
Andrea
From: Michel, Frederic
8e~: Wed 09/02/20lt 7:24:52 PM
Subject: CONFIDENTIAL - JR - CONFIDENTIAL
as agreed on the call, I have managed to get JH quickly before he went in to see Swan Lake....and have
further chat:
- he really feels this Ofcom letter is the ultimate weapon for them to bIock the deal., it’s the last threwof
the dice for Ed. he agreed re-my earher comment to him that this was something Colette and Ed were
floatilg already in september and their ultimate trophy.
- he understands this is a deal stopper for us and shat~es our ~ustration -" we all know what Ofcom’s
intentions are and have been from the start on this". He said that in truth, this was a very bureaucratic
layer to be added and that even though on princtples we were not at all on board with it, it might be a
price worth paying for the deal to get a green light in 2 weeks.
- he can’t instruct his officials to get back to Ofcom as he is not supposed to be aware that we have
received the letter and its content....so we have to be very careful on this.
- he feels that we should take a contradan view ~md despite being rightly outraged by Ofcom’s
suggestions, we should look at the longer-term view
- no one would expect us to accept such art undertaking with the structural remedy we have proposed: us
accepting this or a middle-way would absolutely kill the public debate still
- he asked whether we would be prepared to negotiate at all. he mentioned that if needed, there is
another week potentially to be adoed to the timetable for further negotiations with OFT and Ofcom
- he wants to think it overnight and get back first thing tomorrow morning, he doesn’t want us to jump to
conclusions too fast . ¯ ¯ " ¯
-1 told’him he had to stand for something ultimately s;n.d this was his chance, to d,sm, t ss, Ofc.?~StlVtsVOFT _
and show he had some backbone¯ he said he couldn t ignore Ofcom, ne iRacl urougn[me:n
process to get some cover and in public debate, he wou[d get absolutely killed if he did sucil a thing,
Frederic Michel
Director, Public Affairs, Europe
News Corporation
Tel:
Mob:
To:
Cc_=
Andrea
From: Michel, Frederic
8e~: Wed 09/02/20lt 7:24:52 PM
Subject: CONFIDENTIAL - JR - CONFIDENTIAL
as agreed on the call, I have managed to get JH quickly before he went in to see Swan Lake....and have
further chat:
- he really feels this Ofcom letter is the ultimate weapon for them to bIock the deal., it’s the last threwof
the dice for Ed. he agreed re-my earher comment to him that this was something Colette and Ed were
floatilg already in september and their ultimate trophy.
- he understands this is a deal stopper for us and shat~es our ~ustration -" we all know what Ofcom’s
intentions are and have been from the start on this". He said that in truth, this was a very bureaucratic
layer to be added and that even though on princtples we were not at all on board with it, it might be a
price worth paying for the deal to get a green light in 2 weeks.
- he can’t instruct his officials to get back to Ofcom as he is not supposed to be aware that we have
received the letter and its content....so we have to be very careful on this.
- he feels that we should take a contradan view ~md despite being rightly outraged by Ofcom’s
suggestions, we should look at the longer-term view
- no one would expect us to accept such art undertaking with the structural remedy we have proposed: us
accepting this or a middle-way would absolutely kill the public debate still
- he asked whether we would be prepared to negotiate at all. he mentioned that if needed, there is
another week potentially to be adoed to the timetable for further negotiations with OFT and Ofcom
- he wants to think it overnight and get back first thing tomorrow morning, he doesn’t want us to jump to
conclusions too fast . ¯ ¯ " ¯
-1 told’him he had to stand for something ultimately s;n.d this was his chance, to d,sm, t ss, Ofc.?~StlVtsVOFT _
and show he had some backbone¯ he said he couldn t ignore Ofcom, ne iRacl urougn[me:n
process to get some cover and in public debate, he wou[d get absolutely killed if he did sucil a thing,
Frederic Michel
Director, Public Affairs, Europe
News Corporation
Tel:
Mob:
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