Loughborough Junction chitter-chatter
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Gramsci
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Coming home this evening saw some of the Loughborough Farm/ LJAG clearing and planting in a bit of unused land in Wyck Gardens.
They were planting Prairie grass which apparently does not need much maintenance.
The red t shirts are from a group called "Good Gym". They combine running with doing volunteering on different projects. The befriend older lonely people and visit them when they run. If I got what they told me right. They have running groups in different parts of London.
They were planting Prairie grass which apparently does not need much maintenance.
The red t shirts are from a group called "Good Gym". They combine running with doing volunteering on different projects. The befriend older lonely people and visit them when they run. If I got what they told me right. They have running groups in different parts of London.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
Possibly least popular thread ever, here:Coming home this evening saw some of the Loughborough Farm/ LJAG clearing and planting in a bit of unused land in Wyck Gardens.
They were planting Prairie grass which apparently does not need much maintenance.
The red t shirts are from a group called "Good Gym". They combine running with doing volunteering on different projects. The befriend older lonely people and visit them when they run. If I got what they told me right. They have running groups in different parts of London.
http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/good-gym-combining-running-and-voluntary-work.320350/
Glad it's still going.
LadyV
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Coming home this evening saw some of the Loughborough Farm/ LJAG clearing and planting in a bit of unused land in Wyck Gardens.
They were planting Prairie grass which apparently does not need much maintenance.
The red t shirts are from a group called "Good Gym". They combine running with doing volunteering on different projects. The befriend older lonely people and visit them when they run. If I got what they told me right. They have running groups in different parts of London.
I've seen these guys a few times and wondered what the deal was, sounds pretty good to me, I think the farm needs the extra help especially during the week in the summer to keep everything watered etc
LadyV
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Wonder if this will add to or detract from the new Loughborough Junction Town Centre feeling!
Angellic
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Probably not what some have in mind.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I notice some trees have been planted and some seats installed just opposite, as part of the work to put in the new pedestrian crossing. I think it's quite nice and have seen people sitting on the seats most times I've passed. No doubt some will feel it's all part of some sinister anti-motorist/pro gentrification agenda.
editor
hiraethified
Not sure how trees and seats fit in with a 'sinister pro gentrification agenda'. I like them. It's great that the seats seem to be well made too and not just plastic shite.
They've put in some seats and planters by Shakespeare Road/Coldharbour Lane, although I'm not altogether convinced that lone seats facing in random directions are the most social of inventions (but no doubt help prevent gangs all piling on to one bench and snarling, or something).
Small world urbanism are working on the outside space of the brewery and they should be done in the next week or so. Come and see our greener space, better still if you visit on the 8th of August we will have beer and food from noon, and jazz in the evening to celebrate the beginning of London Beer City Week.
We've also organised a South London Brewery Treasure Hunt for that week, visit breweries all within an easy walk or bus ride for a chance to win beer and brewery merchandise.
We've also organised a South London Brewery Treasure Hunt for that week, visit breweries all within an easy walk or bus ride for a chance to win beer and brewery merchandise.
cuppa tee
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I think you're being a bit out of order there if you're suggesting this is comparable with the upcoming road closures.........
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yes, those are the ones I'm talking about.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It will make the area nicer to be in, thus attracting wealthy house buyers and yuppie cafes etc, etc, etc. Essentially this argument (amongst others) has been advanced against the road closures.
I have a feeling people were objecting to something about the zebra crossing too, a while back ... didn't like the pavements being built out or something.
LadyV
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I like the seats and trees, they brighten up an otherwise sad little junction, don't think it has anything to do with anti motorists or gentrification, this is the type of thing I think should happen by the loughborough road junction. But do you notice how no roads were closed to achieve it? Just a changing of the junction layout and a zebra crossing, which on a separate note needs more signage on the approach to it almost got knocked over on there yesterday!
LadyV
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I would most definitely not object to more crossings and roads being built out if it calms the traffic which it usually does. Why didn't they try that first on Loughborough Road?
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I don't like the way the road is built out by the zebra crossing.
Causes vehicles to swerve - and this morning I noticed a huge articulated lorry having difficulty turning into Coldharbour Lane from Loughborough Park.
Why did they also build out the pavement when installing a perfectly good ped crossing? Must have made it five times as expensive.
Why did they put a prestigious Academy school designed by Zaha Hadid in a location where they don't want service vehicles to access?
ChrisSouth
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CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
'It is a poor replacement for Dick Sheppard School IMHO. With virtually zero bus service. Almost 'kettled' one might say.
Gramsci
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I got this email on the 5th. So not happy about the date to get further comments in. Its follow up to the meeting a few weeks back about developing a masterplan for LJ. This is supposed to be separate issue from the contentious road closures.
Information on the Loughborough Junction Masterplan
Many thanks to the people who attended the last workshop, or who took the time to speak to us at a recent pop up event held around Loughborough Junction.
The information that was presented at these events has been informed by a range of viability studies and comments received from the community to date. It is very important that the masterplan team receive local people's input and opinions as they continue to develop a masterplan for the area, so we are very grateful for your contribution.
For anyone that was unable to attend these events, the information discussed and a feedback form are available to download on the Council's website:
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/ljmasterplan
We would ask that you return your feedback by 10th August.
Digital forms can be saved and emailed to ljmasterplan@fluidoffice.com or if you prefer to print off the form and post it to: Loughborough Junction Masterplan, c/o Fluid, 148 Curtain Road, London, EC2A 3AT.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
From what I can recall (after a couple of pints of Old Thumper in the Beehive) the purpose of this latest LJ Masterplan exercise was to scupper the plans for redeveloping the Higgs Triangle.
Since the Higgs Tringle plans have been approved by Planning Committee now, the Masterplan Excercise has now lost its raison d'être and is essentially a waste of space and money, since it is not allowed to comment on road closures etc.
Enquiries can be directed to LJAG or teuchter as appropriate.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
What did come up at the reference group meeting as its called is the use of the Council land it owns in the area and also plans for the arches ( owned by NR).
On our table we ended up discussing the future of the Marcus Lipton youth club on Minet road and the adventure playground. As there were a couple of people from the youth club on the table.
It was interesting discussion.The Council wanted to build homes on the site to pay for new youth centre. We all agreed this would not be good idea. A clash of different uses on one site.
The arches issue. This is were I get a bit confused. It looks to me there are various plans for the LJ area.
For instance LJAG has its own plans, NR have ideas, Lambeth wants to make use of ( ie sell to developers) it assets and then there is the road closures.
At the meeting it was said by officer that the road closures were an experiment. The masterplan would be devised whether they are made permanent or not.
But it looks to me that a lot of the ideas in the Masterplan are assuming that there will be road closures.
I do not understand how they all fit together and where the ideas for some of the suggestions come from. ie LJAG, Network Rail or Council. Or a combination of them talking to each other.
And I have emailed back to say the 10th august for replies is to soon.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I've been to the two meetings so far.
It's certainly a shame that it will be too late to change what's planned for the Higgs triangle. But as I understand it, (unlike the previous masterplan) it will become incorporated into local planning policy, so there is the opportunity to try and make some of the many other potential developement sites around LJ make sense, if and when redevelopment happens. The area covered by the masterplan is much wider than just the higgs triangle.
I think maybe something it can realistically achieve (even if only in the long term) is to open up some new connecting routes (pedestrian mainly) through sites that are currently blocked off.
It's certainly a shame that it will be too late to change what's planned for the Higgs triangle. But as I understand it, (unlike the previous masterplan) it will become incorporated into local planning policy, so there is the opportunity to try and make some of the many other potential developement sites around LJ make sense, if and when redevelopment happens. The area covered by the masterplan is much wider than just the higgs triangle.
I think maybe something it can realistically achieve (even if only in the long term) is to open up some new connecting routes (pedestrian mainly) through sites that are currently blocked off.
Gramsci
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So was I and we never met.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Quite agree -- 10 August is way too soon. They're pushing it through much too hastily, especially as the Higgs Triangle development has now got planning approval. They ought to now wait until after after the road closure experiment.
In my opinion, the Feedback form is very hard to follow, as if the questions were designed to trick (and even for those who have studied the Masterplan booklet and the Initial Options pictures). See the links below:
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/pl-loughborough-junction-masterplan-booklet-2015-2.pdf
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/LJ masterplan CRG2 Options.pdf
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/LJ masterplan CRG2 DigitalFeedbackForm.pdf
It's very likely the key decisions have already been taken and the results of this survey will eventually be served up to justify them. Same old story -- it hardly seems worth the bother.
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I've never heard of kids with poor/chronic attendance issues having taxis paid for them, unless the parent(s)/carer(s) are unable to make the journey with their child due to illness or disability, and even then its rare. It certainly would not be paid for by Education, and can't imagine social services having a budget for this either. Its possible that the children have some form of learning disability which is not immediately obvious. Its not only the physically disabled who can access this type of support.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
This film is out now. Has anyone seen it and spotted whether Padfield Road made it into the final cut?
davidaheath
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Hi everyone I have an important update with regards to our sunflower which I have not previously posted about so please consider this the first update but also the most recent and important.
So my housemate bought a fucking sunflowers didn't she.
Put them outside like it said on the packet.
Don't have a single fucking sunflower though does she.
Look at the size of that fucking thing it's like seven foot tall. I dunno if it's that tall I haven't measured it but it looks like it seven foot tall for fuck's sake. But where's the fucking sunflower mate.
What season is this supposed to flower in then?
Next door have a glorious sunflower and it's looking at me every morning as I walk past it I can see it looking at me I'm like "what mate" and it's just staring doesn't say a word and I get home and this bastard has grown another 4 inches and hasn't opened the fuck up yet.
What the hell do we do in six weeks time with a nine foot green fucking stem fucking hell.
So my housemate bought a fucking sunflowers didn't she.
Put them outside like it said on the packet.
Don't have a single fucking sunflower though does she.
Look at the size of that fucking thing it's like seven foot tall. I dunno if it's that tall I haven't measured it but it looks like it seven foot tall for fuck's sake. But where's the fucking sunflower mate.
What season is this supposed to flower in then?
Next door have a glorious sunflower and it's looking at me every morning as I walk past it I can see it looking at me I'm like "what mate" and it's just staring doesn't say a word and I get home and this bastard has grown another 4 inches and hasn't opened the fuck up yet.
What the hell do we do in six weeks time with a nine foot green fucking stem fucking hell.
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