Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Pickman's model]

Should this also go in passive aggressive office emails thread?

I know it's not an email, but it is a note.



The fucking cheek. Pickets at place of work not allowed? Sums up new Labour really.

saved for posterity

 

[Pickman's model]

On a phone...

oh

 

[Wilf]

After the euro ref, where I was predicting remain would win 2 or 3 hours into the count, I should keep out of the prediction game. However this is shaping up more and more as a split. The right probably have to stay till the announcement of the leadership result in September. However if there have been half a dozen no confidence votes by corbynite local parties by then, along with constitutional proposals to shift power towards the members, that's probably it.

 

[J Ed]

How about #keepitcomradely outside of Labour leadership election times as well by not scabbing, not waging illegal aggressive war, not privatising public assets etc?

 

[nino_savatte]

View attachment 89552
don't know where the 'h' in her name came from

Is Prospect one of the unions that was a product of a merger of the AEEU with other unions?

 

[killer b]

The CLPS are suspended from meeting til after the election, so no motions of no confidence. They're suspended for that exact reason I expect.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

The CLPS are suspended from meeting til after the election, so no motions of no confidence. They're suspended for that exact reason I expect.

Yep...and in particular no motions from Wallasey CLP.

It's a good thing they're so opposed to bullying and intimidation that they've banned members from coming together to exercise their constitutional rights...without such protectors where would we be?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[wheelie_bin]

The CLPS are suspended from meeting til after the election, so no motions of no confidence. They're suspended for that exact reason I expect.

It explains the urgency, I think I saw somewhere that Eagle's CLP were meeting this Friday.

 

[belboid]

Is Prospect one of the unions that was a product of a merger of the AEEU with other unions?

No that's gmb. Prospect was engineering and other managers

 

[chilango]

Do you know what I'm hating most about all this?

That "politics" has collapsed into internal Labour Party loopholing.

So much so that the seduction is that to feel like a participant I need to join Labour, and not just that, but that I need to do it secret squirrel style. Oh the glamour, the excitement, the sheer daring!

I hate that I'm being made to feel like that.

I hate that Corbyn, who was dismissed as the enemy in the 80s, is now the saviour.

I hate that everything feels like it's on hold whilst the Labour Party fights a battle they've fought before.

I hate that I'm cheering on Corbyn, knowing that if he wins I'm going to be arguing against him. Yet, I'm still cheering him on.

And I hate that I'm moaning about this, because hostile or not , Labour has become the locus(t) of the left once again.

You bastards.

:

 

[wheelie_bin]

Found this, Labour Leadership - NEC Member seeking your views.
This public letter from Johanna Baxter explicitly says she wants to be contacted by people about their views on how to vote at NEC and right down at the bottom of the page it includes her mobile number as well as her email address. Can somebody save a copy of the page please?

FRAUDULENT TEARS.

 

[Patteran]

No that's gmb. Prospect was engineering and other managers

(BECTU voting currently over a proposed merge with Prospect)

 

[Wilf]

Do you know what I'm hating most about all this?

That "politics" has collapsed into internal Labour Party loopholing.

So much so that the seduction is that to feel like a participant I need to join Labour, and not just that, but that I need to do it secret squirrel style. Oh the glamour, the excitement, the sheer daring!

I hate that I'm being made to feel like that.

I hate that Corbyn, who was dismissed as the enemy in the 80s, is now the saviour.

I hate that everything feels like it's on hold whilst the Labour Party fights a battle they've fought before.

I hate that I'm cheering on Corbyn, knowing that if he wins I'm going to be arguing against him. Yet, I'm still cheering him on.

And I hate that I'm moaning about this, because hostile or not , Labour has become the locus(t) of the left once again.

You bastards.

:

Spot on, every bit of it.

 

[inva]

Do you know what I'm hating most about all this?

That "politics" has collapsed into internal Labour Party loopholing.

So much so that the seduction is that to feel like a participant I need to join Labour, and not just that, but that I need to do it secret squirrel style. Oh the glamour, the excitement, the sheer daring!

I hate that I'm being made to feel like that.

I hate that Corbyn, who was dismissed as the enemy in the 80s, is now the saviour.

I hate that everything feels like it's on hold whilst the Labour Party fights a battle they've fought before.

I hate that I'm cheering on Corbyn, knowing that if he wins I'm going to be arguing against him. Yet, I'm still cheering him on.

And I hate that I'm moaning about this, because hostile or not , Labour has become the locus(t) of the left once again.

You bastards.

:

the struggle against Blairism begins with the struggle against Corbynism

or something

 

[Pickman's model]

fuck me that's a weak signature

 

[quimcunx]

Found this, Labour Leadership - NEC Member seeking your views.
This public letter from Johanna Baxter explicitly says she wants to be contacted by people about their views on how to vote at NEC and right down at the bottom of the page it includes her mobile number as well as her email address. Can somebody save a copy of the page please?

FRAUDULENT TEARS.

What site is that though?

Anyway here:


FreezePage

 

[charlie mowbray]

Meanwhile Novara Media who really oughta know better are running a deselection guide on their website and say "This requires years of hard work in branches and constituencies across the country." Meanwhile struggles around housing, migrant rights, anti-raids, support of grassroots unions are neglected and money that could have been spent on some of these is chucked at Labour

 

[Vintage Paw]

It was reported on BBC this morning that they have also suspended all CLP meetings until after the election, due to concerns about the level of abuse and Intimidation.

I believe my CLP is still going ahead this Friday because it's part 2 of the AGM (the AGM was so busy they had to split it over 2 months), and not a normal meeting. It had emerged over the past couple of days that there was to be an emergency motion from the floor for a vote of confidence in Corbyn. Not sure whether that will be allowed to go ahead since it's not regular AGM business. It's all a muddy, sneaky mess.

 

[Pickman's model]

What site is that though?

Anyway here:


FreezePage

 

[Pickman's model]

anyway

jo(h)anna baxter

when did the errant h take up residence in her name? it wasn't there in 2010

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Recent piece by Paul Mason.

Corbyn was only ever a placeholder around which Labour’s membership could create a new kind of politics: a more networked, more activist, and much more radical form of social democracy than has existed within Labour since the 1930s. A form of leftism rooted in the very communities where Labour is battling right wing populism, through community activism and grass roots engagement.

So whatever happens in the legal battles and the election ahead, the issue is no longer Corbyn.

It is whether the membership will take root and branch control — not only of the party but of the struggle in society against the neo-Thatcherism planned by the Conservatives as Brexit unfolds.

Corbyn: the summer of hierarchical things — Mosquito Ridge

 

[Vintage Paw]

DotCommunist I'M BACK ON FORM.

right going for the big one now: labour to win next general election with a Momentum/Corbyn-affiliated leader.

Do we have to rub you for luck or something? How does this work?

 

[wheelie_bin]

What site is that though?

Anyway here:


FreezePage

Thanks for making the copy.

It's her own site and it's public. She asked people for their views, she demanded all legal paperwork, she published her own phone number and then she cried that Bad Corbyn bullied her. Fabian fraud.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's her own site and it's public. She asked people for their views, she demanded all legal paperwork, she published her own phone number and then she cried that Bad Corbyn bullied her. Fabian fraud.

shurely 'flatulent fabian fraud'

 

[Vintage Paw]

Please understand this is not a criticism in anyway of anyone on the boards. But I am surprised by the number of posters on here who are not members of a trade union.
I know that there is a significant cost and also the reputation of unions for being more interested in selling insurance etc can put people off. As well as the crippling laws that prevent former union effectiveness.
This brings my other off topic point that the Labour Party, though eager to grasp the support of trade unions as never as much lifted one finger to repeal the draconian anti-union laws.
No offence intended as I said above, just an observation.

I wasn't in one because I'm not in work and I honest to goodness didn't know you could be. Now I know, and I'll never not be in one again. (Unless they all turn into evil zombie Tory cults or something.)

(I've always been in one while at work.)

 

[Wilf]

anyway

jo(h)anna baxter

when did the errant h take up residence in her name? it wasn't there in 2010

((((credit card fraud)))))

 

[Pickman's model]

((((credit card fraud)))))

(((johanna baxter's good name))) rip

 

[wheelie_bin]

View attachment 89555

I had a little scroll through some other documents, she's been publishing her mobile number many many times and requesting calls. I think she's lonely: NEC Distribution list.

 

[Wilf]

Do you know what I'm hating most about all this?

That "politics" has collapsed into internal Labour Party loopholing.

So much so that the seduction is that to feel like a participant I need to join Labour, and not just that, but that I need to do it secret squirrel style. Oh the glamour, the excitement, the sheer daring!

I hate that I'm being made to feel like that.

I hate that Corbyn, who was dismissed as the enemy in the 80s, is now the saviour.

I hate that everything feels like it's on hold whilst the Labour Party fights a battle they've fought before.

I hate that I'm cheering on Corbyn, knowing that if he wins I'm going to be arguing against him. Yet, I'm still cheering him on.

And I hate that I'm moaning about this, because hostile or not , Labour has become the locus(t) of the left once again.

You bastards.

:

... in fact, I wish I'd come up with that instead of the 200+ posts I've made on this thread.

 

[Lurdan]

Do you know what I'm hating most about all this?

That "politics" has collapsed into internal Labour Party loopholing.

So much so that the seduction is that to feel like a participant I need to join Labour, and not just that, but that I need to do it secret squirrel style. Oh the glamour, the excitement, the sheer daring!

I hate that I'm being made to feel like that.

I hate that Corbyn, who was dismissed as the enemy in the 80s, is now the saviour.

I hate that everything feels like it's on hold whilst the Labour Party fights a battle they've fought before.

I hate that I'm cheering on Corbyn, knowing that if he wins I'm going to be arguing against him. Yet, I'm still cheering him on.

And I hate that I'm moaning about this, because hostile or not , Labour has become the locus(t) of the left once again.

You bastards.

:

Indeed - well apart from the 'cheering on' bit in my case.

However according to Paul Mason Labour now has the potential to become a 'counter power'.

Corbyn: the summer of hierarchical things - Medium
Labour can become the counter-power

Corbyn was only ever a placeholder around which Labour’s membership could create a new kind of politics: a more networked, more activist, and much more radical form of social democracy than has existed within Labour since the 1930s. A form of leftism rooted in the very communities where Labour is battling right wing populism, through community activism and grass roots engagement.

So whatever happens in the legal battles and the election ahead, the issue is no longer Corbyn.

It is whether the membership will take root and branch control?—?not only of the party but of the struggle in society against the neo-Thatcherism planned by the Conservatives as Brexit unfolds.

During the past three years the focus of social justice struggles in Britain got pulled towards voting.

Corbyn’s victory in 2015, Brexit in 2016 and the near victory of the Scottish yes campaign in 2014 all held out the possibility of a effortless exit from a dying and unpopular neo-liberal structure.

A kind of “free revolution”, handed to you by a hapless elite, where all you had to do was tick a box.

But revolutions are never effortless. The revolution that’s put Podemos on 20% in Spain, and Syriza into power in Greece, involved masses of people on the streets, resisting the elite’s attacks, and creating a new kind of power in communities and on the streets and in universities and schools.

This is the modern counter-power, and Corbyn’s election was only ever a reflection of it.

ugh