SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Fair enough - maybe there's something to it then. It still seems a weird way to back up the two state solution idea though.
Gaza under attack yet again.
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Fair enough - maybe there's something to it then. It still seems a weird way to back up the two state solution idea though.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
I've seen that they're slightly higher but falling rapidly - just kind of reminded me of "the blacks will outbreed us" type shit I've heard from racists.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
really?
Throw up a strawman, watch it shot down. Better to ask it than not imo. Jon Snow and Channel 4 have been about as supportive of the Palestinians as you'd expect from a msm organisation.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
"@ChrisGunness
UNRWA #Gaza has opened 1 new shelter in the south so there are now 86 housing 219, 657, average shelter population is 2,554. Appaling."
"@ChrisGunness
UNRWA is overwhelmed in #Gaza we have reached breaking point, our staff are being killed our shelters overflowing. Where will it end?"
UNRWA #Gaza has opened 1 new shelter in the south so there are now 86 housing 219, 657, average shelter population is 2,554. Appaling."
"@ChrisGunness
UNRWA is overwhelmed in #Gaza we have reached breaking point, our staff are being killed our shelters overflowing. Where will it end?"
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Aye. Trick is that it's a demand - our section in Israel/Palestine uses this line in order to get past the "whats the big solution" question and argue that Jewish workers and Palestinians should unite in the struggle against the state basically. Thing is, if we ever do manage to push this idea enough that it's reflected in mass movements against the govt, the one/two state solution basically wouldn't matter anymore.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I thought the Israelis were making them join the IDF now, rather than go to Torah study?
Ranbay
The same rules apply
Not much more outrage I can add to what's already been said, but watching the hysterical finger-pointing pro-war Israelis on C4 news tonight, along with the footage of Shejaiya and the school, really is the angriest I've ever been watching the TV.
I almost smashed my TV in tonight.
Plumdaff
joy in people
It doesn't start until 2017 and even then only a quota of Haredi will have to serve. It's largely considered an unworkable law which will probably change and will not lead to all Haredi serving.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Ah... given the way that they kicked off about it I thought it was everyone.
Zionists have a lot of past form and since Israel is the 'panic room' for world jewry I very sadly see no end in sight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
From 1948 sounds familiar ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
From 1948 sounds familiar ?
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hipipol
Peckham Wry
David Mellor was a minister in Thatchers govt, and was minster for the Middle East at the foreign office
"Mellor attracted controversy when, as a Foreign Office Minister in January 1988 during an official visit to Israel he protested angrily in front of press and TV cameras to an Israeli army colonel about what he saw as the "excessive" and brutal way troops were treating local Palestinians. Mellor's furious demand that it be stopped, and later statement to journalists that the treatment was "an affront to civilised values" was broadcast around the world, and caused an international incident for which Mellor refused point blank to apologise. He was later privately reprimanded by Thatcher."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Mellor
Cant find the vid on Youtube, but it was a proper red in the face demolition attack
He was sidelined then sacked by the tories
Speaking out seems to mean best have another string to your bow if you want to able to work
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
well, I could go on about the value of such a line, but best left till another time
Bloody hell. Normally, it would have taken a week or more to get clearance for that.
UNWRA, like other UN bodies (and the Red Cross and even Amnesty International) is very, very cautious about observing the diplomatic niceties.
Something really has changed when diplomats are saying publicly and promptly the things they previously said only privately and belatedly.
Now we just need the change to spread to the places that can actually stop the State of Israel
(As one UK diplomat said privately and belatedly to a friend, "before we can do anything else we have to make the Israelis behave like human beings").
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
From Guardian live blog
The US has agreed to supply Israel with various types of ammunition in a “non-emergency” sale, CNN cites an unnamed US defense official as saying:
Among the items being bought are 120mm mortar rounds and 40mm ammunition for grenade launchers, officials said. Those will come from a stockpile the United States keeps inIsrael, which is worth more than $1 billion.
The US has agreed to supply Israel with various types of ammunition in a “non-emergency” sale, CNN cites an unnamed US defense official as saying:
Among the items being bought are 120mm mortar rounds and 40mm ammunition for grenade launchers, officials said. Those will come from a stockpile the United States keeps inIsrael, which is worth more than $1 billion.
My phrase but used to reflect if all the world turned on ethnic Jews then they would build a Jewish state and defend to the death and with nuclear weapons an inviolate state where human beings would never again be led like cattle to the slaughter.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
'they'
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
"@ChemiShalev
Israeli analysts say main reason for paralysis of cease fire efforts: Egypt is in no hurry and happy for Israel to keep pounding Hamas"
And the death of six Egyptian grunts on the border earlier is absolutely meaningless.
Israeli analysts say main reason for paralysis of cease fire efforts: Egypt is in no hurry and happy for Israel to keep pounding Hamas"
And the death of six Egyptian grunts on the border earlier is absolutely meaningless.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
If you think signing petitions might help, there's a few here:
http://blog.38degrees.org.uk/2014/07/25/gaza-israel-over-800-deaths-what-could-we-do/
http://blog.38degrees.org.uk/2014/07/25/gaza-israel-over-800-deaths-what-could-we-do/
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
will it fuck as like, the old line is still the common one 'the business of arms is still a business'
lords of war
lords of war
Plumdaff
joy in people
Much as I'd like to think something positive about the child abuse excusing wanker, he was sacked several years later after the infamous Clifford orchestrated "Chelsea shirt" sex scandal. This was likely much more related to his strong stance on press regulation. The Sun doesn't give a fuck about Palestine, it does care about press regulation.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Why? Should anyone be prepared to attack them over this probably already hated them for something else.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
No, come on - we must have had about a thousand "oh my god its so terrible" posts, might as well talk about what the left should be doing about all this.
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