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'Fracking' for gas in Llandow, Vale of Glamorgan

motion passed without amendment

motion said:
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes that Wales has historically made a substantial contribution to the UK's energy portfolio.
2. Regrets the provisions within the UK Government's Infrastructure Bill that will allow fracking companies to drill beneath Welsh homes without permission from property owners.
3. Believes that energy should be fully devolved to the National Assembly for Wales and that the Welsh Government should have the power to block fracking.
4. Calls on the Welsh Government to do everything within its power to prevent fracking from taking place in Wales until it is proven to be safe in both an environmental and public health context.
This does NOT mean that fracking has been banned, or that there will be a moratorium – but it is a huge step in that direction.
Edwina Hart, Minister for Economy, Science and Transport, speaking for the Welsh Government, generally supported the motion, but stated that the Welsh Government will NOT be introducing a new Technical Advice Note for Unconventional Gas as sufficient guidance is already in place.
Llyr Gruffydd (Plaid, Ceredigion), Leanne Wood (Leader of Plaid), Mick Antoniw (Labour, Pontypridd), Alun Ffred Jones (Plaid, Arfon), Bethan Jenkins (Plaid, South Wales West) and David Rees (Labour, Aberavon) all spoke in support of the motion.
Bethan Jenkins mentioned Monday evening’s public meeting in Pontrhydyfen and highlighted local concerns about the application there; as did David Rees.
 
Press Release. Datganiad i’r Wasg.
www.plaid.cymru www.partyof.wales
Embargoed until after the Plenary vote on the Plaid Cymru debate (approx 18:00) Wednesday February 4th 2015
>*>*>Subject to the motion being passed<*<*<

Plaid Cymru wins Assembly support for frack-free Wales

Party’s proposal commits Assemby to blocking fracking

Plaid Cymru’s Shadow Minister for Sustainable Communities, Energy and Food Llyr Gruffydd has welcomed the support of the National Assembly to Plaid Cymru’s commitment to keeping Wales free from fracking.
A motion tabled by the Party of Wales today has won the support of the National Assembly, pledging that it does everything in its power to prevent fracking from taking place in Wales until it is proven to be safe in both an environmental and public health context.

Plaid Cymru has always supported a moratorium on fracking because of the danger it poses to the environment, water and health. A moratorium on fracking has gathered support from politicians from all parties, and last week the Scottish Government announced it would introduce a moratorium.
The Party of Wales Shadow Minister for Sustainable Communities, Energy and Food Llyr Gruffydd said:
“Plaid Cymru has been a lone voice in our opposition to fracking in the Assembly for many years. Today’s vote is an unequivocal statement that Wales does not want fracking.
“It is right that we protect our communities from the potential dangers posed by unproven methods of extracting shale gas from underneath the ground. There has been a growing consensus around Plaid Cymru’s opinion, and I’m glad that the National Assembly has today confirmed its opposition.
“Plaid Cymru wants to see a moratorium on fracking because of the dangers it poses. We want to work towards a sustainable future for Wales, and achieving our obligations to reduce carbon emissions is a big part of that. It therefore makes no sense for us to invest in a carbon-intensive source of energy when we could be harnessing the renewable energy sources that we have in abundance.

“This is a historic day for the campaign for a frack free Wales and a victory for Plaid Cymru in our long-running campaign to protecting Wales’ communities.”
ENDS / DIWEDD
 
The already authorised planning permission clocks are ticking .....Gerwin has until around Oct 2016 to begin the test drills ( non Fracking) on the 3 sites ,otherwise his PP's expire and then its highly unlikely that he could get a re application back through the council

The sub $50 per barrel are not helping the speculators calculations either ...

Happy happy days
 
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The pps were for drilling..... .not Fracking ...its how he got them through... He needs to prove that the gas is there in viable quantities..for the potential sell on .less likely ....but still !. ......its not a ban ...just a delay .....a major scramble for "evidence" next
The extraction licences are for 30 years .....its a long game ...
 
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"Mr Gruffydd, Plaid Cymru Assembly Member for North Wales, welcomed the 37-16 vote in favour of his motion with the Welsh Labour Government AMs siding with Plaid Cymru colleagues while Conservatives and Liberal Democrats voted against."

 
What about the ones already sold ..?...plus the CBM ones
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I think they have a 30 year exploitation window ?
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Ah
"The move, which doesn't affect licences previously awarded,"

The key and possibly the most potentially productive patches have already been sold

Tricksy
 
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Yesterday......
The permit, issued by Natural Resources Wales (NRW) to Coastal Oil and Gas Limited to drill in a field 400m along an unnamed road between the A4266 and Dyffryn, contains clauses to ensure that waste such as rock and soil is recovered or disposed of in a way that protects the environment and local communities.

It does not allow the company to conduct any hydraulic fracturing (‘fracking’) or to extract any oil or gas. The drilling and testing operations and work to reinstate the land should last no longer than 12 months.

A spokesperson from NRW said: “It’s important that any activity of this kind doesn’t harm the environment, and this permit makes it clear what Coastal Oil and Gas Limited will need to do to comply with this.

“Before making the decision, we carried out a thorough assessment of their plans and consulted with specialist organisations such as Public Health Wales and the Health and Safety Executive.

“Once the work begins, our officers will regulate and monitor the site to ensure it complies with the conditions of the permit.”

Looks like Gerwyns got a green light ....now what's the point if there's supposed to be a Fracking ban...eh ? ...he was on the clock for the expiry for the PP on drilling only

.............that welsh back door is well oiled


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Green light for drilling in St Nicholas | The Barry Gem
 
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Dunno ....its about 5 miles NE of me ......might have a nose around with my camera on my next day off ...hes not going to hang around ....Llantrythid , Dyffryn are probably all up too for drilling if this gets going , if he can get more than one rig..... he has to be on site and started before oct 2016 on all of them ...when the pps run out , he'll never get another bunch past PP now even for drilling .....
 
I had a feeling this was going to happen ...theres to much money and politcal investment pushing this ....bet the SNP folds on the central valley too

Probably rename fracking and maybe call it something else .(green bubbly energy fizzing ) ..then say its all legal again ...or hell say hes just drilling for fresh clean water and isnt it such a shame theres some pesky gas in it

more here
Fracking - St. Nicholas Village, Vale of Glamorgan

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Sorry I don't get it. Its for drilling only is it not. Not that drilling is harmless. But this thread is about fracking.

"It does not allow the company to conduct any hydraulic fracturing (‘fracking’) or to extract any oil or gas."
 
err ...then why do you think they are doing it then ?............. (clue ...see post 70 and 98)

blimey ...this may be the Dyffryn site ...its nearer than I thought ...Dyffryn is just where the 172 is on that map
 
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In a way being that close to Dyffryn Gardens will help getting the word out because so many people go there and know the area. Are there any new planning meetings or is it too soon for that?
 
......planning meetings are done and dusted for these sites including " public consultation" as far as I'm aware ,they just need final sign off .

..... Dyffryn gardens are well inside the frack zone for a lateral pipe , they could even reach the edge of Barry from that site nw of Colcot..... (2.5km )

longest horizontal drill is 11km

Caudrilla have recently been talking about 60 well pads with very long laterals to reduce overall pad density in an area and all the visible crap and protests it entails
Probably going to go well over a mile to maximise extraction (out of sight ,out of mind ).....once they have the pad in ..they can go where they like horizontally ....its now not trespass , and they don't need to notify the landowner or resident above
 
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......planning meetings are done and dusted for these sites including " public consultation" as far as I'm aware ,they just need final sign off .

..... Dyffryn gardens are well inside the frack zone for a lateral pipe , they could even reach the edge of Barry from that site nw of Colcot.....
I meant the kind of planning meeting about what people are going to do to stop this!
 
I had a look at the site this morning




Its off 5 mile lane which is already slated for an upgrade , and a direct link to J34 miskin on the M4 from the north end of 5 mile .
A4226 Five Mile Lane Road Improvements
land acquisition and improvements have been on the cards since 2013.

this is 5 mile (a4226) looking north at the crossroads ...its a bendy twisty lane



It then goes to single lane as you turn off west to Dyffryn

 
this is the site off to the right where my cars parked ...looking west up the lane towards 5 mile


looking due north onsite


and east towards Wenvoe TV mast (next to the stitch error) and Dyffryn

bit of a dull day today
 
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