changing your life

[MooChild]

far enough away to require transport.

voluntary work depends on what's available and whether it pays expenses.

Applying and looking is all done online as there isn't much of a service available and they are not very good at it. I applied for a shedload of volunteer jobs months ago and never heard anything from any of them. You apply to a central agency who are supposed to process your application and pass it on (presumably).

This isn't gonna land in your lap you know.

How many miles away is your nearest town?

Have you thought of going round various charity shops etc and asking them if they have vacancies for volunteers? You seem to think everything can be done from the comfort of your computer, emailing, applying online etc. There is no substitute for physically going into the shops and speaking to real people.

If thats too much for you, i'd just curl up in a ball and hope some rich relative dies.

Answer me this though, when anyone on this thread offers a suggestion, why do you think that your initial response is always negative? Because that is the only common theme i've noticed here.

I'd be tempted to speak to your doctor about depression, as has been said a few times on here. It seems that everything is too much hassle, and will never work and there are barriers in place to stop you. I'm wondering how many of these barriers are self imposed.

 

[hermitical]

The test case going through the courts now, from the trading standards people.

i contacted them by email because that is the only way to contact them. YOu will not get through by phone (an option that's only available one a week).

test case about what? If you mean about bank charges then that isn't the main point

I'm suggesting physically going to the CAB, talking to one of their debt advisors about coming up with a financial plan that looks at all your incomings and outgoings, this leaves you with an amount you can afford to payback to your creditors until your circumstances change. They will then help you write the appropriate letters explaining what you are doing.

 

[Awesome Wells]

test case about what? If you mean about bank charges then that isn't the main point

I'm suggesting physically going to the CAB, talking to one of their debt advisors about coming up with a financial plan that looks at all your incomings and outgoings, this leaves you with an amount you can afford to payback to your creditors until your circumstances change. They will then help you write the appropriate letters explaining what you are doing.

Given that the test case has been widely reported over the last year or so, I have to assume you are just trying to wind me up.

The reason I emailed the CAB is because I don't live anywhere near their offices, which are horrifically oversubscribed. Email is the only way to guarantee a response. I'm not entirely sure why you think that turning up at the front door and hoping they are a) not shortstaffed and shut, and a) have an opportunity to fit me in given how horrendsously oversubscribed they are.

If you don't want to believe what I have told you there isn't much point in continally reponding with silly comments about a test case that you would have had to have been living under a rock to be unaware of.

 

[newme]

I haven't snapped anyone's head off for making a suggestion at all. How can you say that?

Because shes read the thread and isn't a moron.

 

[Awesome Wells]

jesus what a moany bastard.

i hope you arent infectious 'awesome wells'

what have i moaned about? Give one example or fuck off and die.

 

[Awesome Wells]

This isn't gonna land in your lap you know.

How many miles away is your nearest town?

Have you thought of going round various charity shops etc and asking them if they have vacancies for volunteers? You seem to think everything can be done from the comfort of your computer, emailing, applying online etc. There is no substitute for physically going into the shops and speaking to real people.

If thats too much for you, i'd just curl up in a ball and hope some rich relative dies.

Answer me this though, when anyone on this thread offers a suggestion, why do you think that your initial response is always negative? Because that is the only common theme i've noticed here.

I'd be tempted to speak to your doctor about depression, as has been said a few times on here. It seems that everything is too much hassle, and will never work and there are barriers in place to stop you. I'm wondering how many of these barriers are self imposed.

Where did I say transport was going to land in my lap? What are you talking about? I was asked a question, and I answered. If that's a problem for you then don't read the thread because complaining about an answer just because you don't like it is pretty stupid.

I have no interest in working in a charity shop again and since they pay no wage I don't see the point in doing so. In any case, employers don't take that as serious work experience so there's little point doing that for that reason (which is why i did it before).

Where did I give the impression that I seemed to think everything can be done online? What a stupid comment. I have a pc, given that I don't live near the CAB and can't contact them by phone what else would you suggest?

The problem with people like you is illustrated by the fact that had I not emailed them you'd complain about that as well. You're the one being negative; I'm simply responding to the questions I am asked. If you find those answers unpalatable, then who is the one with the problem?

 

[Awesome Wells]

Because shes read the thread and isn't a moron.

non sequitur.

 

[newme]

Ah stop being such a moany bastard and go do something about it all. At best you appear to have been making 50% of the effort you could be with almost everything anyones suggested, then bitched and whined and verbally abused people who've only tried to help.

Ive been on JSA 3 miles from the nearest bus stop 6 from the nearest town, with debts, no transport and various other problems. Know what I did, sorted my fucking finances out by actually going and dealing with it, not making a phone call then whining and giving up. Then I walked the 6 miles to town, went round every single shop, restaurant, everything and asked about work and applied for everything, irrelevant of whether it was a dream come fucking true to work there.

Hell atm ive got no transport cos some wanker nicked it, Ive probably lost my job due to cutbacks and Ive 6 weeks til our lease is up and we have to be out, plus a stack of bills. Difference is im not shooting down every single possibility at the first hurdle. Ill get all three of those sorted by the time we move and thatll be on a minimum wage shit job working too many hours. Its shit but you do what you have to, or you end up whining and complaining at the very people trying to help you.

 

[MooChild]

Where did I say transport was going to land in my lap? What are you talking about? I was asked a question, and I answered. If that's a problem for you then don't read the thread because complaining about an answer just because you don't like it is pretty stupid.

I meant that nothing will land in your lap sitting around waiting for it to happen. Or just moaning that a) its all impossible and b) it would never work.

I have no interest in working in a charity shop again and since they pay no wage I don't see the point in doing so. In any case, employers don't take that as serious work experience so there's little point doing that for that reason (which is why i did it before).

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Where did I give the impression that I seemed to think everything can be done online? What a stupid comment. I have a pc, given that I don't live near the CAB and can't contact them by phone what else would you suggest?

I would suggest going in to speak to a real human being when you are in the area, but thats me.

The problem with people like you is illustrated by the fact that had I not emailed them you'd complain about that as well. You're the one being negative; I'm simply responding to the questions I am asked. If you find those answers unpalatable, then who is the one with the problem?

Yes, i'm being negative. rofl.

I see you didnt bother answering my question...

I will restate it for you.

"Answer me this though, when anyone on this thread offers a suggestion, why do you think that your initial response is always negative? Because that is the only common theme i've noticed here.

I'd be tempted to speak to your doctor about depression, as has been said a few times on here. It seems that everything is too much hassle, and will never work and there are barriers in place to stop you. I'm wondering how many of these barriers are self imposed."

I seriously am trying to offer up suggestions along with everyone else on the thread, but all we seem to get back is defeatist attitude and woe is me.

Life is shitty for most people, take a look at the boring jobs thread if you don't believe me.

The difference is, not everyone curls up in a ball and says "its all impossible" "its not worth doing" "i cant see the point" take a look at newme's post above for a classic example.

See what im saying? Or are you just going to accuse me of being negative again?

Edited to add: You still haven't told us how many miles (in a number) from your nearest town you are.

 

[christonabike]

I used to hitch-hike around

Have you a thumb?

 

[hermitical]

Given that the test case has been widely reported over the last year or so, I have to assume you are just trying to wind me up.

The reason I emailed the CAB is because I don't live anywhere near their offices, which are horrifically oversubscribed. Email is the only way to guarantee a response. I'm not entirely sure why you think that turning up at the front door and hoping they are a) not shortstaffed and shut, and a) have an opportunity to fit me in given how horrendsously oversubscribed they are.

If you don't want to believe what I have told you there isn't much point in continally reponding with silly comments about a test case that you would have had to have been living under a rock to be unaware of.

like I said, if it's the test case about bank charges then LIKE I SAID, that isn't the main point. I know of no other test case, instead of being obtuse perhaps you could state exactly what you mean

and there's no need to be rude to someone offering advice, you weren't (and still haven't been) clear

You ring the CAB (or local debt counselling service), from a payphone if need be, make an appointment where they will spend time with you, and take it from there.

Where in Somerset are you? It is Somerset isn't it?

 

[newme]

I used to hitch-hike around

Have you a thumb?

..

I do have a thumb, what kind of idiot do you take me for, you think I havent tried thumbing a lift, off one car, going the opposite direction. But my thumb doesnt work like that, its unlike everyone else's thumb, besides even if it did someone would come and stand in the way of my thumb, they should be wrapping it in Neon so I can better get a lift. Or just give me the car so I can drive myself. Either way Im better than thumbing a lift, I dont see the point, I cant be bothered to try.

 

[madzone]

Thing is AW, you ask for advice and when you get it you behave like people are attacking you

Chances are the people offering advice have been (or still are to some extent) in similar circumstances and are just telling you what worked for them.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I do have a thumb, what kind of idiot do you take me for, you think I havent tried thumbing a lift, off one car, going the opposite direction. But my thumb doesnt work like that, its unlike everyone else's thumb, besides even if it did someone would come and stand in the way of my thumb, they should be wrapping it in Neon so I can better get a lift. Or just give me the car so I can drive myself. Either way Im better than thumbing a lift, I dont see the point, I cant be bothered to try.

Couldn't have put it better myself

 

[Awesome Wells]

Ah stop being such a moany bastard and go do something about it all. At best you appear to have been making 50% of the effort you could be with almost everything anyones suggested, then bitched and whined and verbally abused people who've only tried to help.

Ive been on JSA 3 miles from the nearest bus stop 6 from the nearest town, with debts, no transport and various other problems. Know what I did, sorted my fucking finances out by actually going and dealing with it, not making a phone call then whining and giving up. Then I walked the 6 miles to town, went round every single shop, restaurant, everything and asked about work and applied for everything, irrelevant of whether it was a dream come fucking true to work there.

Hell atm ive got no transport cos some wanker nicked it, Ive probably lost my job due to cutbacks and Ive 6 weeks til our lease is up and we have to be out, plus a stack of bills. Difference is im not shooting down every single possibility at the first hurdle. Ill get all three of those sorted by the time we move and thatll be on a minimum wage shit job working too many hours. Its shit but you do what you have to, or you end up whining and complaining at the very people trying to help you.

This post is so full of shit I don't know where to start or how it's supposed to be relevant. Perhaps you might explain the relevance of even one single element of this post?

 

[Awesome Wells]

Thing is AW, you ask for advice and when you get it you behave like people are attacking you
.

You are incorrect. When people resort to abuse, they are attacking. Advice is one thing, abuse from ignorant fuckwits who haven't the wit to understand the difference between our experiences is quite something else.

 

[Awesome Wells]

I used to hitch-hike around

Have you a thumb?

Utter nonsense.

Can't possibly rely on thumbing a lift ffs. What are you going to do if you can't get one, or get back? Wake the fuck up!

 

[Awesome Wells]

I would suggest going in to speak to a real human being when you are in the area, but thats me.


Edited to add: You still haven't told us how many miles (in a number) from your nearest town you are.

Because they aren't available - that's why i emailed them you dimwit! Did you not even read the response I gave you?

I am about ten miles (afaict).

 

[Awesome Wells]

like I said, if it's the test case about bank charges then LIKE I SAID, that isn't the main point. I know of no other test case, instead of being obtuse perhaps you could state exactly what you mean

and there's no need to be rude to someone offering advice, you weren't (and still haven't been) clear

You ring the CAB (or local debt counselling service), from a payphone if need be, make an appointment where they will spend time with you, and take it from there.

Where in Somerset are you? It is Somerset isn't it?

It's the point because it's what they fucking told me! HOw many times di you want to be told this? If you know of nop other test case then why ask me which one it is ffs?

And again you weren't listening about ringing the CAB. Why do you think I emailed them? You can't get through on the phone - all you get is an answering machine (ie the call costs money - it doesn't ring off). Furthermore the phone option is only available once a week. I can't make them answer, I can't magically sort their staffing issues out, i can email them, which is what I did. Now you want to moan about that!

 

[Hellsbells]

This thread is so bizarre. Why are you even posting on here Awesome wells? What do you expect to get out of it? Are you actually looking for advice?
You just seem to be getting angrier and angrier by people's responses - they're only trying to help. It's hardly their fault that none of their suggestions seem to be viable solutions to you.
This thread seems to be doing you more harm than good, to be honest. It certainly isn't helping you with any of your problems anyway.

 

[madzone]

Because they aren't available - that's why i emailed them you dimwit! Did you not even read the response I gave you?

I am about ten miles (afaict).

What's with the calling names?

People are just trying to make suggestions to help you.

I've had enough of you now.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Utter nonsense.

Can't possibly rely on thumbing a lift ffs. What are you going to do if you can't get one, or get back? Wake the fuck up!

yeah - what a fucking twat eh? Suggesting a way you might (if you get off your arse and try!) be able to get around when you have no money.

 

[Awesome Wells]

What's with the calling names?

People are just trying to make suggestions to help you.

I've had enough of you now.

I had already explained twice that was the only option so I don't expect to be criticised for it. If people are deliberately going to continue to take the piss, then what do they expect. Don't make excuses for them.

 

[Awesome Wells]

yeah - what a fucking twat eh? Suggesting a way you might (if you get off your arse and try!) be able to get around when you have no money.

As i have said before, and obviously you couldn't be bothered to read: suggestions are one thing. Goofy advice that isn't remotely practical is entirely another. I notice your response doesn't answer any of the questions. What good is thumbing a lift if you don't actually get one?

 

[MooChild]

Seeing as you can't be arsed answering the question i asked, or are conveniently ignoring it, i give up trying to help.

You can't be bothered to study ("its too expensive", "i cant study as im on the dole", "my hands are unable to hold a pen")

You can't be bothered to get help with your finances ("i sent them an email, one email!!!1, they didnt send me a cheque, it will will never work")

You can't be bothered to go into town to find work ("theres no point", "i tried it and it didnt work out", "its too far")

And now when you post up here asking for advice what does everyone who posts get, abuse!

that's why i emailed them you dimwit!

Utter nonsense.

Wake the fuck up!

abuse from ignorant fuckwits who haven't the wit to understand the difference between our experiences is quite something else.

This post is so full of shit I don't know where to start or how it's supposed to be relevant. Perhaps you might explain the relevance of even one single element of this post?

what have i moaned about? Give one example or fuck off and die.

I must admit, that with your overhwhelming go for it attitude i'm sure you would be a shining beacon of light in any office / factory / wherever.

I think you will find that the commonality in all of your failed endeavours is you and your stinking "it will never work" outlook on life. No wonder you haven't been able to find anything worthwhile.

Just curl up in a ball of woe and wait for some magical pixie to come along to make it all better... good luck.

 

[madzone]

I don't expect to be criticised

And there we have it.

Poor Awesome Wells, your life sounds like such shit, and it's obvious there's absolutely no way out. No-one understands do they?

Is that better?

 

[Awesome Wells]

And there we have it.

Poor Awesome Wells, your life sounds like such shit, and it's obvious there's absolutely no way out. No-one understands do they?

Is that better?

wow, please continue to take what I said completely out of fucking context! That's always helpful! ffs, what's the point of that?

 

[Mrs Miggins]

As i have said before, and obviously you couldn't be bothered to read: suggestions are one thing. Goofy advice that isn't remotely practical is entirely another. I notice your response doesn't answer any of the questions. What good is thumbing a lift if you don't actually get one?

How do you know whether you will get a lift or not unless you try?

 

[Awesome Wells]

You can't be bothered to study ("its too expensive", "i cant study as im on the dole", "my hands are unable to hold a pen")
You can't be bothered to get help with your finances ("i sent them an email, one email!!!1, they didnt send me a cheque, it will will never work")
You can't be bothered to go into town to find work ("theres no point", "i tried it and it didnt work out", "its too far")

So instead of actually reading what was written, you've just decided to make up some shit. How clever of you.

If i can't afford to study, what would you suggest? Rob a bank perhaps? No let's just equate that to can't be bothered, because that's the same isn't it! Are you really that stupid?

You can't study on the dole, for the reasons I explained. Do you think I'm going to start doing something that I will not be able to finish because the Dole won't allow you? I was told point fucking blank that anything you do including study will detract from your availability for work. What do you want me to say? This is what i was fucking TOLD by the personal adviser after I said i wanted TO study! Don't fucking tell me I can't then be bothered!

You have the fucking gall to tell me I can't be bothered to get help after I have contacted the CAB? How fucking dare you! you stupid piece of cunt. How fucking dare you? What else do you suggest? THere is NO other way I can contact them. But oh no suddenly it's another excuse for you to criticise me? I'm so sorry I don't have a personal CAB on hand in my kitchen ready to answer my every query. But unfortunately their service is extremely limited and email is the only reliable way.

Where did I ever say I couldn't be bothered to go into town and look? You aren't even bothering to listen or read are you? You're just another ignorant fuckwit resorting to the same tired shit as the rest of these idiots. Never mind that I can't afford to travel more than once a week, somehow I'm magically going to find a pot of gold that will enable me to pay for bus fares once I start a job?

No, instead of actually addressing these genuine concerns, you can make yourself feel good by dismissing them out of hand so as to have a convenient excuse to resort to ignorant abuse.

Go fuck yourself.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

wow, please continue to take what I said completely out of fucking context! That's always helpful! ffs, what's the point of that?

You've done nothing on this thread but tell people why their suggestions will not work for you.

People will not go on and on giving you sympathy and suggestions when they are just thrown back in their faces.

What do you want AW? A magic wand to make it all perfect?

I'm afraid that MooChild has the measure of you exactly and until you wake up and realise that, you won't be able to help yourself.