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Cardiff City RedBlueDragonBirds 2012-2013 season

Gromit said:
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Lord Camomile said:
I think the key point is that a lot of people don't believe, or at least aren't sure if, it's their club any more.
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What you mean is that they aren't sure if they want it to be their club any more.

Whether or not you buy a product is a choice. Don't like the new Mars Bar its your choice. If plenty of other's do though then they aren't going to stop selling them just for you. Its their product.

If they want it then its there for them.
If they don't, plenty others do.
 
Gromit said:
What you mean is that they aren't sure if they want it to be their club any more.

Whether or not you buy a product is a choice. Don't like the new Mars Bar its your choice. If plenty of other's do though then they aren't going to stop selling them just for you. Its their product.

If they want it then its there for them.
If they don't, plenty others do.
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No, he was correct the first time. Enjoy your success with the new Cardiff Red Dragons and be sure to do whatever Mr Tan asks because SUCCESS is at stake! They're going to be big in Malaysia, and that's something that's clearly been on the minds of true City fans for years.
 
Gromit said:
Whether or not you buy a product is a choice.
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Again, not to speak for others, but most would take exception to their club being referred to as a 'product'. In this day and age that may well be what it's turned into, but that wasn't what it was originally and it's not what they signed up for.

In this instance, they've basically had something they loved taken from them and then corrupted and poisoned.

Technically, yes, it is a choice between supporting the team or not, but it's a choice that has been forced on people and a choice between two evils is not really much of a choice at all.
 
Posted elsewhere and spot on:
http://www.spiked-online.com/site/article/13644/

"Why opt for the Championship when you can compete in ‘best league in the world’? Well some fans have stopped believing the Premiership hype. The truth is that many fans are disenchanted with the soullessness and commercialisation of modern football. They fear that promotion will mean extortionate ticket prices, rescheduled kick-off times, mercenary players, sanitised stadiums and getting thumped every week by clubs bankrolled by overseas oil tycoons. Our games are more likely to be televised, but a few cursory minutes at the fag-end of Match of the Day is hardly a mouth-watering prospect."​
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Lord Camomile said:
Again, not to speak for others, but most would take exception to their club being referred to as a 'product'. In this day and age that may well be what it's turned into, but that wasn't what it was originally and it's not what they signed up for.

In this instance, they've basically had something they loved taken from them and then corrupted and poisoned.

Technically, yes, it is a choice between supporting the team or not, but it's a choice that has been forced on people and a choice between to evils is not really much of a choice at all.
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It was a product in 1910 and its a product now. You are fooling yourself if you don't believe that something you pay for is not a product.
 
editor said:
Posted elsewhere and spot on:
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Then you shouldn't have taken a Wembley playoff ticket?
Someone else who does want Cardiff in that league should have had it.

I guess you don't want to go into Europe either as thats even more about the money money money.
 
Gromit said:
It was a product in 1910 and its a product now. You are fooling yourself if you don't believe that something you pay for is not a product.
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Firstly, more and more I pay for stuff to support it, not because it is a 'product'.

Secondly, I would disagree with the apparent definition of a 'product' as something that's sole purpose is to be bought and sold. Supporting a football club isn't like going to the cinema, it's not an exchange of money for entertainment, or even 'success'. Football clubs, and other sports clubs, play a role in a community, and as such the supporters generally have different expectations and interests to other 'products'.
 
Well - it looks like tan still likes red - but from the new kit it is not clear what kind of red he likes!

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Worst Cardiff City strip ever?

As much as i hate the rebrand, last years black shorts and red top at least looked ok. But THIS?

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It's a toss up for me between that and one of the Joma kits we'd had which was truly ugly and the sizes were all to fuck too.

Burgundy shorts though. Really?!!
 
Gromit said:
It's a toss up for me between that and one of the Joma kits we'd had which was truly ugly and the sizes were all to fuck too.

Burgundy shorts though. Really?!!
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I have never considered myself into fashion, but that collar looks fucking dreadul.

No matter.. i dont have to wear it anyway
 
The badge and the puma logo look as if they are trying to get as far away from the collar as possible. Any further away and they'd be on the back.
 
That kit is a fucking embarrassment - so in essence, it's a perfect accompaniment to the embarrassment of a club we've become.
 
Even the Daily Mail is ripping the fucking piss.

After winning promotion to the Premier League for the first time, Cardiff City will want to look the part.

But the new vivid red home strip unveiled by kit makers Puma today has been roundly panned by fans.

Bafflingly, the shorts are a different shade of red to the shirt and socks, and Bluebirds fans took to Twitter to label it 'shocking,' 'atrocious' and 'hideous' within moments of the launch.

Others went further, calling it 'the worst kit in the history of the club'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ew-tone-red-home-kit.html?ico=sport^headlines
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Smart move from the club. Make sure there's no Full Kit Wankers in the stands.

Sorry Cardiff fans, that kit's just shit :(
 
That kit is simply horrible, cheap looking and a fucking embarrassment. It was so nice to see all the people in blue outside various pubs the other day.
 
It's all shit marketing-speak. Maybe it makes sense for the Malaysian stock market. Cardiff City have turned into a joke.
 
Club back tracking on the shorts now and running a poll for all season ticket holdrs on e-mail data base


On Wednesday we launched the first images of the 2013/14 home kit, which featured two shades of red, the darker of which was carried in the shorts. The decision had been made to help visually distinguish the club in the Premier League, while continuing the theme of our successful 2012/13 Championship winning season.

The resulting response carried across social media quickly indicated that a large number of supporters were unhappy with the choice of colour concerning the shorts. For that we apologise.

We would like to address this issue by giving all 2013/14 Season Ticket holders held on our email database a vote on the shorts for next season.

Voting starts today and will last until 2pm, Friday May 31st, from which we will publish details of the winning option. Please note that all votes will be fully verified against our database. All duplicates will be discarded, while multiple votes will result in all votes for that person being deleted.

Thank you all for your cooperation in this matter.

One city, one community, one club. #WeAreCardiffCity
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Much as i would love to vote - i aint going to endorse the red in anyway and there is no return to blue shirts option.
 
is the worm finally turning?


Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust and Cardiff City Supporters Club today issued a joint Press statement:
As designs of the new red home kit were released this week, Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust and the Supporters Club have urged Bluebirds fans to keep faith with blue.

Tim Hartley, Trust chair, said: “We, of course, welcome the investment of Vincent Tan which has helped deliver the dream of Premier League football next season. But we firmly believe that the overwhelming majority of Cardiff City supporters would prefer to see the restoration of our traditional blue at home games.”

Vince Alm from the Supporters Club said: “We would like to know from the club when the alternative blue and, indeed, yellow kit will be available for purchase so those loyal supporters who don’t want to buy a red kit can still back their club. Fans have told us they would like to know when they can pre-order blue and they deserve a firm answer.”

Tim Hartley added: “We note that the club is promoting heavily the launch of the red home kit during the summer but we have not heard anything about the alternative blue kit for those fans who remain very supportive of the traditional colours of our beloved Bluebirds.”

Trust members made it clear in its recent fans’ survey that they want to return to blue and the Trust will continue to highlight the majority views of its members at every opportunity. As a result it is looking at innovative ways of ensuring a strong blue presence in the stadium.
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