Brixton Chitter Chatter and News - August 2012

[Brixton Hatter]

That's cos there are ponies stabled near you. Go to the landor pub and turn left. They live at the end of that road.

Aha! Didn't realise.

There's also a place called "The Stables" just near the Grosvenor (next to the grafitti 'hole') which looks like posh flats/conversions - was there previously a horsey place there too?

Who'd have thought there would be TWO stables in the Brixton?!! (The other one being at Wyck Gardens).

 

[quimcunx]

There are also the Ebony thingy stables down by Loughborough junction.

Or is that the same as one of the two already mentioned?

 

[Brixton Hatter]

The turn out for the march looked ok. Was happy to participate even if its a futile gesture.

What do we want? And when do we want it...?

Nice one for coming out.

I put a short report here:
http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/death-following-arrest-sean-rigg.188523/page-4#post-11456290

I don't necessarily think it's a futile gesture. I'm not sure what the legal position is currently, but the Rigg family seemed determined to continue to seek justice. You've got to keep fighting. It look the family of Stephen Lawrence over 15 years but two of the murderers finally got convicted and the police are now having to pursue further lines of enquiry. The Met are massively on the back foot over all this IMO, and the public mood is against them since the Tomlinson verdict. One protest may not change anything, but continual pressure (like the demo tonight) I think is one of the ways of slowing changing the culture over time and forcing the police to improve procedures/behaviours etc. The fuckers are finding it harder and harder to get away with it nowadays, with people capturing assaults (like the one on Sunday) with their cameras and telling the world.....keep the pressure up innit.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

There are also the Ebony thingy stables down by Loughborough junction.

Or is that the same as one of the two already mentioned?

Yes, that's the one I meant ...I couldn't remember the name.

 

[Frumious B.]

Is there a thread about the arrests of illegal workers? The team doing the arrests were on BBC TV London news the other day - I think they were nicking people near the market. They're back in Brixton - about ten of them have just walked along Market Row and Coldharbour Lane and into Rushcroft Road, pursued by somebody haranguing them.

e2a: Here's the story about the arrests the other day. It says

A halal butcher shop near Brixton market was also targeted and a 35-year-old Pakistani man and a 28-year-old Iranian were taken away.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...rder-agency-targets-visa-abusers-8069753.html

e2a again: They arrested one of the guys working at the grocers opposite Express Cafe on Market Row

 

[leanderman]

There's a story on Brixtonblog.com about it.

The not entirely convincing angle is that the officials are heavy handed and acting up for cameras and social media.

 

[uk benzo]

White collar criminals can fleece millions/billions from the tax payer without consequence, yet the government chose to go after/harass honest hard working folk. A fucking joke.

The financial implications of an 'illegal' in UK society is almost negligible compared to many of the other financial crimes committed that the government chose to ignore/whitewash.

UKBA can fuck right off out of Brixton.

 

[leanderman]

Up to a point Lord Copper.

But one misdemeanour does not excuse another.

Unless you are saying there should be no immigration controls.

 

[editor]

Disaster! The Phoenix Cafe is closed for their summer hols.

 

[Badgers]

Anyone spoke to Brixton Hatter? No biggy, just wondered if he is local this weekend and can't reach him. Ta

 

[leanderman]

Just spotted a rather useful-looking fixed bicycle pump in Windrush Square, near Ritzy.

 

[colacubes]

Reasonably unpleasant incident tonight. Was walking past KFC on the way to the Albert and noticed a bit of aggro and a bloke lying seemingly unconscious just inside the door. No one was looking after him, so as I'd done my work 1st aid cert, I did a busy-body special and went and looked after him until the old bill and then ambulance turned up (which was about 5 minutes after I got there for the police and another 5 for the ambulance). He was pretty much out of it and was bleeding from the nose and had marks round his eyes like he'd been smacked in the face. He was conscious enough at one point to tell me his name and age, but was rolling in and out of consciousness. Anyway, in the end the ambulance turned up and took him away. The police, to be fair, turned up before and were very good. He wasn't reacting well to them, so they took a step back and left me with him as he seemed to be ok with me rather than them until the paramedics turned up.

I didn't see what happened, but a couple of people outside said that a bouncer had hit him. I pass no judgement as I wasn't there, however a couple of things have been on my mind since it happened:

1. I asked the KFC staff if someone had called an ambulance when I arrived and they said yes. However, it subsequently seemed once the police arrived that it hadn't been and they called one.

2. This bloke was right inside the door. No one from KFC was checking if he was ok. And in fact, until the police turned up, they were just letting people step over him to come in while he was out cold on the floor. It struck me both as rather cold, and actually pretty dangerous.

Tbh this is just a bit of a stream of consciousness for me to remember it cos something unsettled me about the whole thing. I think the fella will be ok (he was certainly conscious once the ambulance crew took over from me), but something about it doesn't sit right. I've just sent an email to KFC to ask what it was all about and why their staff handled it the way they did.

 

[Miss-Shelf]

Good on ya nipsla all round
hope you were ok after

 

[Gramsci]

White collar criminals can fleece millions/billions from the tax payer without consequence, yet the government chose to go after/harass honest hard working folk. A fucking joke.

The financial implications of an 'illegal' in UK society is almost negligible compared to many of the other financial crimes committed that the government chose to ignore/whitewash.

UKBA can fuck right off out of Brixton.

Spot on. In Greece there has just been a similar action, on a larger scale. As the Syriza Party in Greece say its all a distraction from "austerity" cuts.

Good to see how multicultural the UKBA are from the Standard photo.

When the UKBA went on strike just before Olympics the "Trade Union" leader Serwotka was supporting the great job the UKbastardsAgency do. The important job they do in keeping "us" safe. No as far as Im concerned they can go on strike 365 days of the year. Bunch of thugs.

I have friends from other countries here in London and its no joke these days. Actually this harder line on visa overstayers ( that is what it is) started under New Labour as a consequence of East European immigration here. It is relatively easy to give people who need visas a hard time.

 

[Gramsci]

Think I will start a thread on the UKBA raids.

 

[Onket]

Disaster! The Phoenix Cafe is closed for their summer hols.

You only noticed on Friday?!!

 

[colacubes]

Any idea what the film is? Wondering if it's the same one that's doing location at my neighbour's place this week (think it's a Nick Hornby adaptation).

Had a letter through the door about this tonight. Filming is 3rd and 4th September. Main reason for putting this up is to let people know that they're looking for extras for this. It doesn't say in the letter how much you get, but I've heard 2nd hand it's £50 a day and filming is between 0800 and 1830. They've given a contact if you're interested (you must be 16 and over) and if you're selected you must be available both days (although it says 3rd and 14th in the letter so not sure whether that's just a typo as it says different elsewhere ). Anyway, if anyone's interested drop me a PM and I'll send you the contact details. It says you might have to email a picture. Location is central Brixton.

 

[qosno1]

Location is central Brixton.

Yes but do they define "Central Brixton" ?

 

[colacubes]

Yes but do they define "Central Brixton" ?

Yes but I'm not putting the address up as it's my neighbours place and I don't want all and sundry to know where I live. Suffice to say it's less than 5 minutes walk from the tube and high street.

 

[Onket]

Yes but I'm not putting the address up as it's my neighbours place and I don't want all and sundry to know where I live. Suffice to say it's less than 5 minutes walk from the tube and high street.

Whose 'walk'? A normal person, or OU's lightning quick strides?

 

[colacubes]

Whose 'walk'? A normal person, or OU's lightning quick strides?

Don't you start

It's less than 5 minutes for a fat unfit smoker in their 30s. OK

 

[quimcunx]

How about for a short person during splash?

 

[colacubes]

How about for a short person during splash?

3 hours 47 seconds

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Reasonably unpleasant incident tonight. Was walking past KFC on the way to the Albert and noticed a bit of aggro and a bloke lying seemingly unconscious just inside the door. No one was looking after him, so as I'd done my work 1st aid cert, I did a busy-body special and went and looked after him until the old bill and then ambulance turned up (which was about 5 minutes after I got there for the police and another 5 for the ambulance). He was pretty much out of it and was bleeding from the nose and had marks round his eyes like he'd been smacked in the face. He was conscious enough at one point to tell me his name and age, but was rolling in and out of consciousness. Anyway, in the end the ambulance turned up and took him away. The police, to be fair, turned up before and were very good. He wasn't reacting well to them, so they took a step back and left me with him as he seemed to be ok with me rather than them until the paramedics turned up.

I didn't see what happened, but a couple of people outside said that a bouncer had hit him. I pass no judgement as I wasn't there, however a couple of things have been on my mind since it happened:

1. I asked the KFC staff if someone had called an ambulance when I arrived and they said yes. However, it subsequently seemed once the police arrived that it hadn't been and they called one.

2. This bloke was right inside the door. No one from KFC was checking if he was ok. And in fact, until the police turned up, they were just letting people step over him to come in while he was out cold on the floor. It struck me both as rather cold, and actually pretty dangerous.

Tbh this is just a bit of a stream of consciousness for me to remember it cos something unsettled me about the whole thing. I think the fella will be ok (he was certainly conscious once the ambulance crew took over from me), but something about it doesn't sit right. I've just sent an email to KFC to ask what it was all about and why their staff handled it the way they did.

That's disgusting if they didn't call anyone

 

[colacubes]

That's disgusting if they didn't call anyone

I don't know for definite yet. I sent an email to KFC on the night and it said I should hear back within 7 working days so we shall see. The whole thing was just rather unpleasant - particularly the fact that they were letting people just clamber over him and carrying on regardless while he was lying there

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

It's a bit of a difficult one really. A few months ago I saw a guy sitting on a garden wall looking bashed up and I could see a large cut on back of head and his hoodie covered in blood. Trying to speak to him was a bit pointless and asking him what had happened to him only resulted in "it's a long story". He didn't really seem able to move and was adamant he didn't need an ambulance.

He seemed like he may have been drinking and fallen over or got into an argument but as he had cut on back of head and had said "it's a long story", I thought more a fight. However, I didn't want to bother him too much in case he got aggressive or walked away before I had chance to call ambulance. So I walked 50m up the road, called an ambulance and waited 'til ambulance got there. I was concerned knock on head was what might be making him seem a bit confused and not wanting medical attention. If I'd hassled him, he may have left because he didn't want police involved and then caused himself more injury due to head injury not being seen to. However, I was just with another female friend, whereas I reckon they'd be a lot more staff at KFC to help deal with him

Sorry for waffling, but I myself was perhaps a bit of a chicken for not staying with him. Not excusing their behaviour btw. They could have had at least shut up shop until he'd been seen to

 

[colacubes]

It's a bit of a difficult one really. A few months ago I saw a guy sitting on a garden wall looking bashed up and I could see a large cut on back of head and his hoodie covered in blood. Trying to speak to him was a bit pointless and asking him what had happened to him only resulted in "it's a long story". He didn't really seem able to move and was adamant he didn't need an ambulance.

He seemed like he may have been drinking and fallen over or got into an argument but as he had cut on back of head and had said "it's a long story", I thought more a fight. However, I didn't want to bother him too much in case he got aggressive or walked away before I had chance to call ambulance. So I walked 50m up the road, called an ambulance and waited 'til ambulance got there. I was concerned knock on head was what might be making him seem a bit confused and not wanting medical attention. If I'd hassled him, he may have left because he didn't want police involved and then caused himself more injury due to head injury not being seen to. However, I was just with another female friend, whereas I reckon they'd be a lot more staff at KFC to help deal with him

Sorry for waffling, but I myself was perhaps a bit of a chicken for not staying with him. Not excusing their behaviour btw. They could have had at least shut up shop until he'd been seen to

It's a tricky one. Tbh if it wasn't for the fact that I'd done work first aid training I probably would have done the same as you. In the training they actually say the most important thing in any situation is not to put yourself in any danger and if the guy I was looking after had been aggressive I would have stood back and just called an ambulance. I have some sympathy for the staff as I 'm sure they have to put up with a lot of fights and other aggressive crap in there, but it certainly could have been handled better.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

It might not be right but TBH I think it's entirely understandable how people working in KFC for minimum wage in that particular spot would develop a general approach of never getting involved in anything unless they really, really have to.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

It's a tricky one. Tbh if it wasn't for the fact that I'd done work first aid training I probably would have done the same as you. In the training they actually say the most important thing in any situation is not to put yourself in any danger and if the guy I was looking after had been aggressive I would have stood back and just called an ambulance.

I feel slightly better now

 

[colacubes]

It might not be right but TBH I think it's entirely understandable how people working in KFC for minimum wage in that particular spot would develop a general approach of never getting involved in anything unless they really, really have to.

I don't disagree, but by doing it like that they were potentially putting both their customers and the injured guy in more danger. He had his head whacked by the door a couple of times while I was there and it could have made his injuries worse.