shaman75
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The two arrested were released without charge too.
You can hear them here: http://bambuser.com/v/5173685#t=3564s
You can hear them here: http://bambuser.com/v/5173685#t=3564s
Bailiffs and Police attempt to evict squat near Trafalgar Square
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ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Empty buildings mean warm bodies on the cold streets.
It should be a taxable offence to keep buildings empty when there is a need.
It should be a taxable offence to keep buildings empty when there is a need.
shaman75
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Bollocks. It was all looking a lot more positive than this, earlier yesterday 
They were asking earlier for help with cooking facilities for xmas dinner - even if that doesn't happen, they posted this on fb about an hour ago:
'We have now officially set up outside love HQ, 2a charing Cross Road. Everyone please come on down and invite any homeless people you see for free food and clothes'
'We have now officially set up outside love HQ, 2a charing Cross Road. Everyone please come on down and invite any homeless people you see for free food and clothes'
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
If any cybertwat is sneery about this inspiring occupation, it may be as well to remind them that RBS lost £45,000,000,000 of our money.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
No one is being sneery about this, everyone has been positive and supportive of a fantastic initiative and rightly so. Go and take your nasty defensive nasty classist shit about the horrible things that you have written elsewhere, go write about people drinking stella or having difficulties with literacy on your fucking blog or something.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
I wasnt referring to here you prick, or I would have likely quoted them. Theres plenty of it elsewhere. Now you can get back to strawmen and personal attacks in the rest of the happy season.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
good of you to remind us you're a sneery cybertwat, taffboy
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i like alcoholick lager beers
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shaman75
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'Comment is Free' article from one of the activists
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ts-empty-buildings-direct-action-homelessness
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ts-empty-buildings-direct-action-homelessness
if you're referring to Nat West, they probably don't give a fuck about anything, cause they've most probably already sold the building. Whoever the squatters are fighting, it's not Nat West / RBS.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
It's a lot harder to moan about squatters ripping off property owners when the 'owner' is a PO box in the Channel Islands which exists only to help some cunt avoid paying tax.
Though do bear in mind a genuine business concern could have bought the holding company...it's unlikely but it's possible, especially if the seller insisted the premises was bought/sold in such a manner.
What is all this, "“We want to make this a safe space for all. We’re not equipped to deal with people who are violent or who have drug or alcohol problems.”", direct quote from the Guardian? It just seems a bit offensive to me. I don't know if it's due to prior problems. But it epitomises everything I hate about safe spaces policies. Safe for everyone, as long as they have no problems.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
It's the sort of position you naturally arrive at once you've spent a long time trying to create spaces where everyone is welcome. What's naive is putting up a sign saying 'everyone is welcome' but not having any rules or systems in place to ensure that people actually feel welcome, and more importantly that they feel safe and respected.
Nobody has ever found the 'right' way of handling these things in my opinion, because every situation is different and thinking on your feet every time is a lot harder than coming up with a single rule for everything, writing it down and just pointing at the rulebook whenever something needs resolving. Being an alcoholic or an addict doesn't necessarily make you an arsehole, nor does it prevent you from being one. If you have an open space with no rules where nobody is ever asked to leave or modify their behaviour for any reason then two things are guaranteed to happen; nice people will leave and arseholes will come in their place. They might be drunk arseholes or stone-cold sober arseholes but arseholes they will most certainly be.
As for violence, lots of people aren't equipped to deal with violence. They might be horribly traumatised by the merest sign of confrontation or they might instantly lose their shit and escalate matters further. I'm a little column A, a little column B. Not wanting to be around violence or violent people is not prejudice, it's a perfectly normal thing to want and not an unreasonable thing to expect.
Yeah, hence I don't know why it needs saying. And additionally it associates having a drugs and alcohol problem with being violent. I am just uncomfortable with it.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Alcohol certainly associates with violence. You might not be a violent drunk but if other people see you drunk then they're not necessarily gonna know that, and would be within their rights to be worried about you being in the same space as them. It's a response they might well have learned from bitter experience.
I'm speaking generally of course, not suggesting that you yourself are a drunk.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Where's that from? I can't see it in the Guardian links, I was looking for any context.
(I don't think it's at all inappropriate to have a no drugs/alcohol and strict no violence policy in a drop-in context in general btw.)
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
One day we will arrive at a point where the only safer spaces policy we ever need is a big sign saying, 'don't be an arsehole'.
If someone looks like they're threating to violate this policy you will simply have to point at the sign and the offender will instantly realise the error of his or her ways and either desist altogether or remove themselves voluntarily to go an be an arsehole in private for a bit and get it out of their system. I'm all for trying to help people, but often they don't realise they need help until enough people have pointed at the 'don't be an arsehole' sign while they're around.
If someone looks like they're threating to violate this policy you will simply have to point at the sign and the offender will instantly realise the error of his or her ways and either desist altogether or remove themselves voluntarily to go an be an arsehole in private for a bit and get it out of their system. I'm all for trying to help people, but often they don't realise they need help until enough people have pointed at the 'don't be an arsehole' sign while they're around.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/...ffice-trafalgar-square-squat-protest-homeless
Half way down under the video. Front page article in the Guardian.
I don't think it's inappropriate to have a policy like that but having it so explicitly stated is surprising and I think it's alienating.
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