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Syria: The Feckless Left
by Malooga

One must not forget the disgraceful petition put out by what calls itself the "Left" in the name of "dignity and freedom" last week, the so-called "Global Campaign of Solidarity with the Syrian Revolution". The geo-political analysis of the screed would not pass the muster of a child, and the empty verbiage comes straight out of a George W. Bush or Barak Obama speech -- without exaggeration. In any event, don't mislead yourself into thinking the timing was accidental in the face of the collapse of the mercenary Takfiri front. Because it wasn't. When the empire finds its back against wall, it will not hesitate in pulling out all stops -- even if it means trotting out a brigade of tired old leftists in its dirty service.
And if ever there was evidence that the entire moribund left intellectual class is bought and sold, this is surely it. One should carefully examine the list of names and publicly excoriate them for their now public complicity in international war crimes and the use of chemical weaponry. Tariq Ali, Norman Finkelstein!, Richard Seymour (author of "The Liberal Defence of Murder," "tracing the descent of liberal supporters of war..."), Anthony Arnove (Howard Zinn's boy), Fredric Jameson, Vijay Prasad, Ilan Pappe, Stephen R. Shalom, Alice Walker and so on down the line, over 220 Benedict Arnolds in all. Laudable behavior in the past is no excuse for lying while supporting Takfiri murderers in the present. May every single one of them know what it is like to be exposed to DU -- in the name of freedom and democracy, of course!

According to these house puppets, "The revolution in Syria (sic) is ... also an extension of the Zapatista revolt in Mexico, the landless movement in Brazil, the European and North American revolts against neoliberal exploitation", and every other emotional struggle for justice that these betrayers can throw against the wall and hope it sticks, while, like a virus, they live off the suffering of others, with their pompous pontificating and venal obfuscating, as their salaries and position are paid for by the big boys.

I am sorry that do to personal problems I am not at present able to take the time to deconstruct the empty verbiage of that embarrassing petition line by line as I have done with others in the past (The Euston Manifesto). This document's vacuous invocation of democracy, freedom and the Geneva Convention, its selective one-sided claims bereft of any factual evidence whatsoever, its twisting of truth on its head and its transparent Orwellism against "Asad’s regime" should be a deep and enduring embarrassment for any signatory of the document.

In ostensibly "hop(ing) for a free, unified, and independent Syria," (Didn't that exist, albeit with blemishes, as all power structures exhibit, until a few years ago? The same hope was evinced for Iraq after the nation was first destroyed, but why should a few well trained house lackeys quibble over cause and effect?) while "confront(ing) a world upside down" consisting of "Russia, China, and Iran," (the bad guys) and in throwing in their lot and supporting "the US and their Gulf allies" (the good guys -- Saudi Arabia and Qatar for hummus sake!) these ahistorical ignoramuses not only have the blood of innocent Syrians on their heads, but that of the multi-million Iraqis and hundreds of thousands of Libyans, Afghanis, Yemeni, Sudanese and many other nations killed, injured, displaced and dispossessed by the time honored imperial strategy of divide et impera, divide and conquer. Apparently, those who refuse to study the bloody history of the West's destabilization campaigns are consigned (perhaps enlisted?) to support them.

As the election of Barak Obama, supported by similar empty-headed intellectual idealists, has proved, "Hope," in the absence of an honest and rigorous economic and power analysis, a realistic and workable political strategy of opposition, and the building of a viable alternative power structure, is even more destructive than surly apathy. These intellectuals' piteous petition evinces none of the above minimal requirements for successful activism -- except, of course, for Hope, the Orwellian trope of our decade. Their elitist Hope, is misplaced from the get go, of course -- for there is no attempt in the petition to address or assay the hopes and desires of the majority of the Syrian people. Instead, it is all about their precious hope. When your car careens off the road, you momentarily "hope" you won't be killed, although you know it is too late for hope; Intellectual study, attainment and popular acclaim is supposed to provide more effective tools than hope. In this case, like petition signing, apparently.

It simply beggars belief that the Left -- which claims to pride itself on solid structural analysis as opposed to groupcentric conspiracy theory -- betrays its utter ignorance of its purported forte (the former) while buying whole hog into the later, namely into the magical conspiracy theory that the removal of an individual, Assad, rather than the democratic restructuring of a power structure and national political economy, will in any way help solve the Syrians' problems. The undemocratic abdication of the duly elected "Bashar al-Asad," as called for by the petitioners, would clearly leave a prolonged bloody power vacuum, with every interested external and internal party vying in the darkest of ways for support, thereby inaugurating in a reign of terror even worse than at present and destroying the state. The recent bloody examples of Iraq and Libya should be obvious even to the purblind pusillanimous petitioners. One might think… An honest leftist, Stephen Gowans once described this type of thinking among the left as the "Rogue's Gallery" syndrome: the demonization of individual "monsters" like Saddam Hussein, Qaddaffi, Chavez, Castro. As the noted political thinker Noam Chomsky notoriously and repeatedly opined a decade ago, (paraphrased), "Iraqis, and the world, would be much better off without Saddam Hussein." So much for the vaunted structural analysis of the left. But who, especially the tenured left, has time for historical memory in an age of evanescent tweets?

To even imagine that one could throw one's hat in with the US, Zionist Israel, bought off and dying NATO, Saudi Arabian, and Qatari interests and end up with some type of leftist anti-globalist democracy movement complying with the will of the Syrian people is absolutely and utterly laughable. The destruction of Sirte and the ethnic cleansing of Tawergha, as well as the confessional partition of Iraq, come to mind as case examples of more likely consequences, especially for a multi-confessional state such as Syria. Do these people really have academic degrees; do they study history; are they in any way capable of critical thinking? They betray the rankest of historical ignorance, and to my mind, these moronic intellectuals demonstrate the far-sighted perspective of an ostrich with its head in the sand. It is truly a left gone mad.

M of A - Syria: The Feckless Left
 
In a 2011 Atlantic article titled, "The Arab Spring: 'A Virus That Will Attack Moscow and Beijing'," it would be revealed precisely what Washington's end game was:

[US Senator John McCain] said, "A year ago, Ben-Ali and Gaddafi were not in power. Assad won't be in power this time next year. This Arab Spring is a virus that will attack Moscow and Beijing." McCain then walked off the stage.Comparing the Arab Spring to a virus is not new for the Senator -- but to my knowledge, coupling Russia and China to the comment is.Senator McCain's framing reflects a triumphalism bouncing around at this conference. It sees the Arab Spring as a product of Western design -- and potentially as a tool to take on other non-democratic governments.

Upon weighing both the comments of US politicians, documented evidence of the engineered nature of the so-called "Arab Spring," and regime change operations in Ukraine, it is clear that indeed the "Arab Spring" was undoubtedly "a product of Western design" and a "tool" the US fully sought to use against the rest of the planet, including Moscow and Beijing.

In 2011, the use of military force to finish where US-backed political destabilization left off was not fully understood. With the US now having destroyed Libya, Syria, and Ukraine with either direct or proxy military force, it is clear that the US is engaged in a a slow motion, 4th generation warfare-version of blitzkrieg - the lighting fast brand of military conquest used by Nazi Germany in the 1930's and 40's to conquer Western Europe, parts of North Africa and Eastern Europe, and the attempted conquest of Russia.

It is clear then that Russia today, is not interested in building an "empire," but instead interested in stopping an obvious wave of Western conquest ultimately and admittedly aimed at Moscow itself.

Land Destroyer: What Does Russia Want in Syria?
 
ISW’s “#Syrian Opposition Guide.” A Who’s Who by Military Operations Rooms and provinces. http://bit.ly/1MeXRW0

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I see the 'non-existent' FSA managed to knock out 17-30 regime tanks during the regimes russian backed offensive around Hama yesterday as well.

See also Can the revolution in Syria survive an imperial carve up? That article also goes into some detail about the ethnic cleansing that the russian intervention is designed to facilitate - along the lines of Zabdani.
 
I see the 'non-existent' FSA managed to knock out 17-30 regime tanks during the regimes russian backed offensive around Hama yesterday as well.

In which case Putin is being somewhat disingenuous here:

...In televised remarks on Wednesday, Putin encouraged the Free Syrian Army to join an alliance with Assad’s troops against the Islamic State. At the same time, he belittled the influence of moderate rebels on the conflict.

“True, we don’t currently know where it is and who is leading it,” Putin said of the Free Syrian Army...
 
In which case Putin is being somewhat disingenuous here:
That's all about the FSA involve in the euphrates volanco stuff with the YPG up in the north/north-east and moving onto raqqa, who are actually fighting isis (rather than pretending to have attacked ISIS at Palmyra with faked up footage). He's trying to cause splits with the FSA southern front etc and that whose primary enemy is the regime and who russia has been bombing over the last few days. All politics.
 
AFAIK no surface-to-air missiles have (or are likely to be) supplied to that area. For exactly those reasons. Whether this might change over time I guess we'll see.
I saw today via the impeccable source of twitter and youtube the FSA fighting off a tank column of the Syrian army with US anti tank weapons (everyone called them TOWs, i don't know what that means). Not sure if there was Russian air cover or anything...




And reports - which don't seem to be substantiated at all by anyone - of a Chinese air craft carrier at a Syrian port, Tartous. I imagine if it's actually there it's quite hard to hide.

I'm really not saying any of it is true or not, you guys will know better than me, and I'm not being sarcastic.
 
And reports - which don't seem to be substantiated at all by anyone - of a Chinese air craft carrier at a Syrian port, Tartous. I imagine if it's actually there it's quite hard to hide.

I don't know if these are new claims but there have been claims or a Chinese Aircraft Carrier at Tartous for weeks.
 
I don't know if these are new claims but there have been claims or a Chinese Aircraft Carrier at Tartous for weeks.
Surely someone would have snapped it with their phone, those kind of things are huge. Also it would have moved through Suez, again, rather difficult to miss. `Oooh fishing boat, ooh tanker, ooh coal barge (ok not in the suez), oooh bloody hell a floating city.`
 
I saw today via the impeccable source of twitter and youtube the FSA fighting off a tank column of the Syrian army with US anti tank weapons (everyone called them TOWs, i don't know what that means). Not sure if there was Russian air cover or anything...




And reports - which don't seem to be substantiated at all by anyone - of a Chinese air craft carrier at a Syrian port, Tartous. I imagine if it's actually there it's quite hard to hide.

I'm really not saying any of it is true or not, you guys will know better than me, and I'm not being sarcastic.

Why have you called them "US anti tank weapons"? Do you mean US made or US provided? The most likely source of the TOWS doing the damage over the last two days is Qatar.
 
And reports - which don't seem to be substantiated at all by anyone - of a Chinese air craft carrier at a Syrian port, Tartous. I imagine if it's actually there it's quite hard to hide.

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he source of the chinese nonsense story is al-masda, a blog run by a single pro-assda shia fantasist. It's pro-looking presentation has managed to convince some gullible people that it's an actual news gathering network. It isn't.
 
Why have you called them "US anti tank weapons"? Do you mean US made or US provided? The most likely source of the TOWS doing the damage over the last two days is Qatar.
US made. As thats what i read, like i said you guys know more than me. I wasn't being facetious.

What does TOW stand for?

FYI that China story was in the Daily Express today, another impeccable source.
 
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In which case Putin is being somewhat disingenuous here:
This sort:

FSA spokesman confirms aid for 'decisive battle to liberate Raqqa'

“We have received large promises surrounding future military aid, and we really did begin to receive equipment,” Abu Muadh A-Raqqa, spokesman for Liwa Thuwwar Raqqa, part of the Euphrates Volano operations room, tells Ammar Hamou, without specifying the source of the military aid.

Liwa Thuwwar Raqqa intends to use the equipment “to exterminate IS in Raqqa city and its countryside.”

Q: Has the FSA-affiliated Liwa Thuwwar Raqqa been hit by Russian strikes as others have been in the Hama and Idlib countrysides?

Until now, thank God, no, we have not been targeted by the Russian occupation's planes. Despite this, we expect that we will be targeted by Russian planes, which are helping the criminal Assad regime kill more civilians.
 
So the current breaking news seems to involve Russian Caspian-launched missiles falling well short and ending up in Iran.
 
I stand corrected, and will be sure to TOW the line in future (I'm here all week).

Seriously is this an "any mug can use it" job, or does it need trained and scarce personnel?
 
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I stand corrected, and will be sure to TOW the line in future (I'm here all week).

Seriously is this any mug can use does it need trained and scarce personnel?

nah, its not far off point-and-squirt stuff.

as with most things training produces better, more consistant results, but the only real hurdle would be getting the firer to wait until the target is in range - though one of TOW's major advantages over newer, lighter systems like Javelin is that its maximum range is greater than the effective range of the main gun on most tanks, meaning the firer is less likely to be panicked into firing the thing too early.

the video Coolfonz posted earlier suggested that the FSA is using dedicated firing teams rather than any old scrote they can get to fire it, that those teams are practiced and competant in its use, and that the SAA's armoured force is sufficiently depleated in trained people that it can't execute basic evasion manouvers to get out of a pretty rudimentary ambush. losing more than one tank to a single tube in open country without getting lots of fire down is real schoolboy error stuff.
 
Why are folk saying that the US strategy on Syria is a mess? They've managed to get Russia to secure the Western front of the Caliphate.
 
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