untethered
For industry & decency
In my understanding there is no law against displaying a model of an unborn child, but if you suspect an offence by all means go and report it.
2 Arrests at Brixton Reclaim Your Food
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In my understanding there is no law against displaying a model of an unborn child, but if you suspect an offence by all means go and report it.
untethered
For industry & decency
I couldn't wait to get stuck in. reckon you're just jealous you didn't get some....
I can assure you that the only pie of which I'm keen to partake is that which Mrs Untethered serves at dinner.
But as I said earlier, I see little harm in a public picnic per se, "vegan" or otherwise.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
I'd imagine the world, including the police, understands there's nothing inherently harmful about a picnic, so trite banality aside . . .
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
I've emailed Imogen Walker, a (lab) councillor here in Stockwell. She's on various police or crime committees.
No response yet...maybe I should email the lib-dems (the local opposition here) and demand a position statement?! They can have my vote if they lobby for weekly vegan picnics outside the Ritzy. Well strictly speaking, if they lobby for the right not to have the police make these decisions, but 'tis all one at this stage.
innit
c'mon, little life giver
Jonti
what the dormouse said
Is it 'cos she is a Christian?
Whatever, Lambeth's new Police Commander seems eager to hear from those she serves!
Whatever, Lambeth's new Police Commander seems eager to hear from those she serves!
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wobbly
You are hilarious, you are a walking joke
there is something about him that makes me want to start repeatedly posting FANNY in really big letters all over the thread every time he posts.
I think it's important to understand the relationship between people with serious drug problems and the police - the police use them as informants. It's pretty easy to manipulate someone in the cells who's clucking for their next hit.
It's also 'easier' than proper detective work and let's not forget that the Police are paid bonuses in their wages according to the # of arrests etc they make in a month.
The Police more or less admitted this in a Lambeth Police Consultative Group Committee meeting many years ago when locals were sounding off about why the Police never seemed to be doing anything about the sex-workers blatantly working on the street around Streatham/Balham. The Police said they didn't want to move them on as the info they gave to the Police was useful to them. i.e they want them for grassing.
I beleive the Free Food thing is going to continue every Sunday so if you didn't manage to get down there last Sunday, there's more opportunities we hope.
i was disgusted that the Jesus Army were outside KFC the day before Free Food on Sunday - they should have been hounded out of Brixton. Jesus Army are a cult who take vulnerable people - who they meet on the street - take them to their farm in Norfolk and then you can't leave.
They even had the guy who painted the Nuclear Dawn mural on Coldharbour Lane there and convinced him his art was evil and brainwashed him to stop making art.
I have met many people who have managed to escape the Jesus Army and they are very traumatised by the experience.
Next time I see them in Brixton we're going to have a go at them.
They are fucking slags and it's interesting that they are allowed to come into Brixton trawling for vulnerable people, but a few anarchists are threatened by the Police for handing out some free food.
Thanks very much for this - I've just emailed it to Kate Hoey MP
hoeyk@parliament.uk
I also included the Indymedia video posted before http://indymedia.org.uk/media/2008/03//392934.mp4
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Thats why I gave up Indymedia. Its the loons I tell you the loons drove me away.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
They seem to be every Sunday, last week's started about 4 o'clock.
Good food too! I had a nice bit of walnut cake.
Anything to do with this?
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=227736&highlight=westminster
In spite of the weather, food not bombs put on another feast in b'ton today. It looks as if the police have down-scaled its response, as there were 6 police community support officers, none with cameras and all keeping a respectable distance. I'd like to think it's because they've taken on board the wide-spread community concerns about the questionable use of the law in this situation. It seems that the two arrested are not allowed to enter Brixton town centre, or the area covered by the dispersal zone, until after their court case in May. OTT doesn't even cover it...
There were more people there today who looked like they really needed the food. One guy said it wasn't just about the food, it was the spirit in which it was being given and the chance to mix with different people. Drug and alcohol mis/abuse should never be a reason for pushing people out of their communities - of course there's shit that goes along with certain life-styles, but still. And i speak as someone who has been directly affected by dealing and drug use, when my kid was younger and the back of our block was used by dealers and users for a couple of years.
There were more people there today who looked like they really needed the food. One guy said it wasn't just about the food, it was the spirit in which it was being given and the chance to mix with different people. Drug and alcohol mis/abuse should never be a reason for pushing people out of their communities - of course there's shit that goes along with certain life-styles, but still. And i speak as someone who has been directly affected by dealing and drug use, when my kid was younger and the back of our block was used by dealers and users for a couple of years.
Just got a reply from Kate Hoey saying she will 'certainly be asking for an explanation from the Police Commander'.
thanks Kate.
well done, loupylou. spread the word far and wide!
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Thanks for the info shygirl; I couldn't get down there yesterday, but I will try and come next week. Glad to hear that the police are backing down a bit.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
A very good point.I dont like some of the religous nutters who preach in Brixton an Saturdays.The Korean Moonies are another cult.They were in evidence this weekend.
Ive no answer from my Councillors (whose ward this took place in) other the Rachel who said would take it up with police.Have you answer from Hoey?Id like the main parties in Lambeth to come up with a position on this use of Dispersal Zones and asbos.From what shygirl says the Police are using a "test case" to see if they can use a Dispersal Zone to get rid of political "undesirables" but not religous nutters
.I assume,in my cynicism, that the Labour group will say its up to the courts to see if the law (there party introduced) can be used in this way.I wouldnt put it past the Labour group ,if the Police win the case, to wring there hands and argue its nothing to do with them.Like the arrest in Whitehall(those demonstrating without permission) were the Government said the police were being "over zealous".
Politicians bring in laws to deal with "Anti-social behaviour" and threat of terrorism.Civil libertarians warn them that they will be used in unintended ways.The Government ignores them.Then when they Police use them in this way they say its not there fault.
Am I getting to cynical here?
Once again it will be up to unelected Judiciary to defend our freedoms.As they have done in the past.
For all u libertarians out there I heard Jacqui Smith say she will not "pander to Guardian readers".
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Vegan food.Though given the Police provocation they should eat a Pig like in the cult French movie "Themroc".Where they caught and roasted a prime porker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Themroc
.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Themroc
RushcroftRoader
Well-Known Member
I was on the Brixton Town Centre Safer Nighbourhood Panel last year when the police introduced the idea of dispersal zones.
At the time there was a lot of problems with dealers and addicts gathering at night on Rushcroft and Saltoun Roads particularly. The idea was to only use dispersal zone orders to move on a few people who had no other reason for loitering in purely residential streets in the early hours other than to sell drugs. The police gave reassurances that the application of the new powers would be focused on dealing with that specific drug dealing problem. It may be coincidence, but since then, the problems of dealing on certain streets in Brixton has got a lot better.
FYI, as far as I remember, there is a clause in the legislation that requires police to gather support from community representatives before they can use the dispersal act powers. Once invoked, community representatives have to approve the renewal of the dispersal powers every three months. If the community feel that the powers have been abused, then they can withdraw their permission for its use..... Just a thought.
At the time there was a lot of problems with dealers and addicts gathering at night on Rushcroft and Saltoun Roads particularly. The idea was to only use dispersal zone orders to move on a few people who had no other reason for loitering in purely residential streets in the early hours other than to sell drugs. The police gave reassurances that the application of the new powers would be focused on dealing with that specific drug dealing problem. It may be coincidence, but since then, the problems of dealing on certain streets in Brixton has got a lot better.
FYI, as far as I remember, there is a clause in the legislation that requires police to gather support from community representatives before they can use the dispersal act powers. Once invoked, community representatives have to approve the renewal of the dispersal powers every three months. If the community feel that the powers have been abused, then they can withdraw their permission for its use..... Just a thought.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
I don’t understand any of this - not a thing; why the police are interested, why people want to give away food in London to people who have food, what ‘reclaim your food’ means, why everyone hasn’t got better things to do on a Sunday afternoon . . and prob a few more things 
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