1972 - The worst year in music? It has to be ...

[Johnny Canuck3]

The amount of music hasn't exploded at all. It's just more accessible.

I think it has. There was no electronic music in 1972, for all intents and purposes.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Stuff from 72 too.

That's true. So when I'm listening to CCR, I'm not listening to Sound Remedy.

 

[redsquirrel]

John Cale released The Academy in Peril in 1972 and thats a good record

The Academy in Peril came out in 1972. As did Roxy Music and A Woofer in Tweeter's Clothing.

I've never listened to Academy, how's it compare to his other stuff? Looks like it's more in the style of Music for a New Society then say Paris 1919?

 

[butchersapron]

I've never listened to Academy, how's it compare to his other stuff? Looks like it's more in the style of Music for a New Society then say Paris 1919?

Yep, don't expect normal sort of songs like on 1919/VV/Fear - think more church of anthrax. It's John Cale and it's from the 1970s - what could possibly go wrong?

 

[seeformiles]

I think it has. There was no electronic music in 1972, for all intents and purposes.

 

[killer b]

I think it has. There was no electronic music in 1972, for all intents and purposes.

But millions more people with acoustic guitars.

 

[nino_savatte]

The first all synthesiser single iirc.

 

[ska invita]

The first all synthesiser single iirc.

Not to dispute, but Stevie Wonders 72 Music of My Mind, Talking Book and 73 Innvervisions are all driven by Rhodes, Arp and Moog, and '79 Secret Life of Plants was the first record to use a sampling synth...

TONTO (The Original New Timbral Orchestra) is one of the most famous and influential modular synthesizers in the world.

TONTO’s Expanding Head Band, made up of Malcolm Cecil and Robert Margouleff, was an influential electronic music duo from the 1970′s. They only released a few albums, but these recordings, along with their collaborations with musicians such as Stevie Wonder, helped make synths a standard element of modern popular music.

TONTO was a huge multitimbral polyphonic analog synthesizer, designed and constructed by Malcolm Cecil. It featured Moog modules, but also modules from other manufacturers and some of Cecil’s own design.

Tonto’s Expanding Head Band’s Zero Time was released in 1971 and, though its sales were relatively small, it was an influential album, foreshadowing the later work of Tangerine Dream and other artists.

Zero Time brough Cecil & Margouleff to the attention of Stevie Wonder, who ended up working with Tonto on Music of My Mind, Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness’ First Finale and Jungle Fever. It would be hard to overestimate the importance of these collaborations, because they introduced synths to rhythm and blues music, where they have been an important part of the urban sound ever since.

TONTO featured prominently on albums from Quincy Jones, Bobby Womack, The Isley Brothers, Gil Scott-Heron and Weather Report, as well as releases from Steve Stills, The Doobie Brothers, Dave Mason, Little Feat and Joan Baez.

BTW check this 72 performance out - vocodoing it out!

 

[Fozzie Bear]

All of that bonkers electronic BBC Radiophonic Workshop / Dr Who Theme tune stuff would have been going in 1972.

 

[butchersapron]

Silver apples oscillation single - released 1968.

 

[two sheds]

Ooo Tonto's haven't heard them for decades.

 

[Orang Utan]

Electronic music has been around for over 100 years:
http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/feature/lwes-brief-history-of-early-electronic-music/

 

[rekil]

A Woofer in Tweeter's Clothing.

1973? Their debut came out in 1972. Not that a few months really matter.

Swedish proggers Blå Tåget's 'Den Ena Handen Vet Vad Den Andra Gör' tune was off their 1972 album, later covered by Ebba Gron as Staten Och Kapitalet.

 

[butchersapron]

1973? Their debut came out in 1972. Not that a few months really matter.

Swedish proggers Blå Tåget's 'Den Ena Handen Vet Vad Den Andra Gör' tune was off their 1972 album, later covered by Ebba Gron as Staten Och Kapitalet.

The wiki entry is wrong on this one. I'll get david to sort it later.

 

[Pickman's model]

...

i see someone's already posted 'son of my father'

 

[rekil]

The wiki entry is wrong on this one. I'll get david to sort it later.

I think you're right. Bah. I don't have it, I'll check with someone who has.

 

[butchersapron]

I think you're right. Bah. I don't have it, I'll check with someone who has.

If i get to my mums later tonight as planned i can go up the loft and check.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think it has. There was no electronic music in 1972, for all intents and purposes.

just people prancing around with electric guitars making a hellish racket

 

[ska invita]

73 herbie hancock would drop the first headhunter album...in 72 though it was already brewing

...i think this track Water Torture would become Vein Melter

 

[rekil]

If i get to my mums later tonight as planned i can go up the loft and check.

My brother says it was released in 1972 in UK, and 1973 in US. Discogs concurs. The official site has reviews of it in 1972, 1973 and 1974. Does that save you a trip up the loft?

 

[butchersapron]

My brother says it was released in 1972 in UK, and 1973 in US. Discogs concurs. The official site has reviews of it in 1972, 1973 and 1974. Does that save you a trip up the loft?

It does ta, but i have to go anyway, see if i've anything worth flogging. I shall keep an eye out for stuff from 72.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It gets worse every year. For all the the hate of the prog rock...

What hate? Most of what gets said about prog is that some of it was up it's own arse.

...at least they all played their instruments...

FFS, you sound like my dad!

and could work out complex arrangrments, even if they did bore the pants off you.

What do we have now? Computerised shite with 16 year old signing numpties giving it the biggun, No art to it at all. Just another twat behind another computer. fuck that for a game of soilders.

Mmm, because there were fuck-all manufactured numpties before the present time, were there?

Fuck me, you've got the mind of an uninquisitive pensioner!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yes fair play - is just the tossers who lable prog rock as 'pretentious' that get to me. I also like some of the 70s experimental albums like Snafu & Polite Force although a lot does admittedly get a bit too freeform for me.

TBF, when someone says "pretentious" and " '70s" in the same sentence, I usually think of Wishbone Ash.

 

[ViolentPanda]

err - the prog/krautrock line is fairly opaque. Even the early Genesis weren't so bad

As genres go, Krautrock encompassed an even wider spectrum of musics than Prog did. Saying that the line between them is "fairly opaque" posits a line that wasn't really there in the first place.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You can't even write a line without being wanky can you? Opaque/thesarus/yeah/easy Yeah, prog is yours. Have it.

Kraut rock is intensely not prog.

The difference is between self-consciously "avant garde" (Prog) and "experimental" (Krautrock) though, IMO. The former seeks to be art, the latter just seeks to be new/fresh/exploratory.

And yeah, what I've written is wanky. I know.

 

[savoloysam]

What hate? Most of what gets said about prog is that some of it was up it's own arse.



FFS, you sound like my dad!



Mmm, because there were fuck-all manufactured numpties before the present time, were there?

Fuck me, you've got the mind of an uninquisitive pensioner!

You've got the mind of a cunt so fuck off.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You've got the mind of a cunt so fuck off.

Such erudition, such a fine turn of phrase!

They must be well-impressed with you down the OAP pop-in!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Retroprogrock

Or "Marillion" as they're still known.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Can and Faust are generically different from Yes and Genesis. They might all have been called "progressive rock" at some point - but that's just terminology. Even relatively proggy Krautrock such as Frumpy sounds like a jamming session whereas prog has pseudo classical pretensions.

Europrog = Magma.

 

[articul8]

Europrog = Magma.

Apparently, snooker player Steve "interesting" Davis is a huge Magma fan