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SWP expulsions and squabbles

BRAVO 2, CHARLIE
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Good to know that the SWP are willing to tackle difficult issues surrounding systemic sexism like teenage boys calling each other 'lad' a bit too much.
thats not to say laddism is non existent thing mind, guilty of falling into lazy wahey shite myself sometimes.

but this this really what they should be discussing?

I dunno I didn't ever go or anything but you'd have thought they'd be discussing some issues closer to home iyswim
 
but this this really what they should be discussing?
they discuss lots of stuff. mind you, my favourite meetings were always the least relevant.

which reminds me of when i'd just moved down to london and was chatting to a woman i'd just met (friends now). ou introduced me to her and mentioned she had been on "the word". i asked her how come and she said about being in a band, i asked which one and she told me. i couldn't quite place the band but the name rang a bell, she said something like "you've probably never heard of us, we weren't very mainstream", which proper got up my nose.
then it came to me, the band, their daft names, the whole riot grrrl thing and best of all, i'd seen them being interviewed in a meeting at marxism! they were awful! it was the most embarrasing and cringeworthy meeting ever.

bosh!

"oh yeh, i remember you. i saw your most embarrasing moment on a stage, ever...."

check mate!
 
needless to say, you had the last laugh


somebody re-post that picture of Callincos as the sith emperor. It's been a dry night for laughs and I could do with it.
 
Hang on, didn't you have some crisis of conscience a few months ago and decide that the opposition were right?
On the sexual allegations and how they we handled yes. but only on that, all this "Cliff was wrong to change his mind on Luxemburg, let's recreate Beyond the Fragments" palaver is a crock. And the louder the Syriza wannabes get the more I wish the cc would get the delta stuff off the backs of those who should be out defending their tradition with an easy conscience.
 
On the sexual allegations and how they we handled yes. but only on that, all this "Cliff was wrong to change his mind on Luxemburg, let's recreate Beyond the Fragments" palaver is a crock. And the louder the Syriza wannabes get the more I wish the cc would get the delta stuff off the backs of those who should be out defending their tradition with an easy conscience.


maybe you should be wishing the cc resign for completely fucking up such a easy to deal with situation.
maybe you should also question your continued involvement in the swp.
A socialist party is supposed to be a tool ... surely if the tool is broken you should stop using it...and broken is the only way to describe to describe the swp. Actually that's not strictly true...fucked up, misogynistic, disgraceful and stalinist could also be used.

I seriously do not understand how anyone is still involved in it.
 
Glad to report that Marxism was bigger than expected yesterday (judging by size of meetings and queue for bar at 11PM, always the key indicator). Lively and diverse and young. Long may it continue.
 
Glad to report that Marxism was bigger than expected yesterday (judging by size of meetings and queue for bar at 11PM, always the key indicator). Lively and diverse and young. Long may it continue.

How anyone can be "glad" that Misogyny 2013 was "bigger than expected" and full of "young people" is beyond me.

We are talking about a group who have treated women's rights appallingly, expelled people for just chatting on Facebook, wanted to raise "lynch mobs" against its' opponents, refuses to admit to its' mistakes and do something about them.

Those that remain in the SWP should be ashamed of themselves. Appalling people.
 


From that link: "I'd feel sorry for people at Marxism2013 being trapped indoors with rape apologists on a day like this, except they're also rape apologists."

I despise the Social Workers and have done for years. I also recognise that their handling of the allegations against Smith has been crap. However, that really does not make the Social Worker leaders, let alone the whole membership (which includes people highly critical of the leadership), apologists for rape. They have not said rape is ever OK. They have simply failed at the difficult task of responding adequately to accusations against one of their members. That failure does not amount to being apologists for rape. To say it does is wrong, way over the top and plainly unfair.
 
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