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Wordsworth, Coleridge and Southey.

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In search of the peace of mind, I sometimes seek escapism and peace and quiet to my life from reading about life in late 18th and early 19th Century in the Lake District and other forgotten times in such places. I have ordered a Wordsworth Biography and a book of his works. I have to wait for the bliss it will likely bring. Does anyone have any thoughts or info of interest about Wordsworth or the other two in the title? Thanks in advance.
 
The only entertaining fact I know about Wordsworth is that Byron used to call him Turdsworth.
Well, you know, they all used to call each other names. Byron was puerile and used to scoff at Wordsworths surname, because it is literature-friendly.
 
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Coleridge cottage in West Somerset is worth a visit. Seems that when they wandered around the countryside the locals thought they were french spies. I inherited my aunt's collected Wordsworth a couple of years ago. I sometimes try reading it but tend to give up after a couple of pages. I keep thinking I ought to like it but find the lyrical poems too long and complex for my taste.
 
It's interesting how much Wordsworth departed from the then norms of 'poetical language' with its nymphs and so on. In his 'Preface to the Lyrical Ballads' he expounds at length on this and other matters but sums it up quite succinctly in his critique of Gray

In vain to me the smiling mornings shine,
And reddening Phœbus lifts his golden fire:
The birds in vain their amorous descant join,
Or cheerful fields resume their green attire.
These ears, alas! for other notes repine;
A different object do these eyes require;
My lonely anguish melts no heart but mine;
And in my breast the imperfect joys expire
;
Yet morning smiles the busy race to cheer,
And new-born pleasure brings to happier men;
The fields to all their wonted tribute bear;
To warm their little loves the birds complain.
I fruitless mourn to him that cannot hear,
And weep the more because I weep in vain.


It will easily be perceived, that the only part of this Sonnet which is of any value is the lines printed in Italics; it is equally obvious, that, except in the rhyme, and in the use of the single word ’fruitless’ for fruitlessly, which is so far a defect, the language of these lines does in no respect differ from that of prose.

It was a revolutionary idea in its day


which Coleridge accepted as far as Poetical Language is concerned but not in his far more dreamlike subject matter.

In comparison Byron wrote superficial doggerel and was a clever dick. He was the type to carry a paper bag in his pocket for when he was punched in the mouth. To put his teeth in.
 
It's interesting how much Wordsworth departed from the then norms of 'poetical language' with its nymphs and so on. In his 'Preface to the Lyrical Ballads' he expounds at length on this and other matters but sums it up quite succinctly in his critique of Gray

In vain to me the smiling mornings shine,
And reddening Phœbus lifts his golden fire:
The birds in vain their amorous descant join,
Or cheerful fields resume their green attire.
These ears, alas! for other notes repine;
A different object do these eyes require;
My lonely anguish melts no heart but mine;
And in my breast the imperfect joys expire
;
Yet morning smiles the busy race to cheer,
And new-born pleasure brings to happier men;
The fields to all their wonted tribute bear;
To warm their little loves the birds complain.
I fruitless mourn to him that cannot hear,
And weep the more because I weep in vain.


It will easily be perceived, that the only part of this Sonnet which is of any value is the lines printed in Italics; it is equally obvious, that, except in the rhyme, and in the use of the single word ’fruitless’ for fruitlessly, which is so far a defect, the language of these lines does in no respect differ from that of prose.​


It was a revolutionary idea in its day


which Coleridge accepted as far as Poetical Language is concerned but not in his far more dreamlike subject matter.

In comparison Byron wrote superficial doggerel and was a clever dick. He was the type to carry a paper bag in his pocket for when he was punched in the mouth. To put his teeth in.
Thanks for this post. I have read through it, and need to read it again with my coffee later on.
 
Nutting is my fav wordsworth poem
I read through that one. That looks like an excellent poem. I will reread it later on. I need to spend an hour or so on a lot of poems to realise them fully. To ponder them. I just got the complete collection of Wordsworth today, and I can see he was prolific! I briefly read through a few and they are wonderful. His peaceful world is bliss to me. It is in sharp contrast to todays world of rushing about. To me it is more relevant than ever. Good escapism.
 
He was a classic of the trajectory from young radical to old reactionary. Bits of the Prelude I read were truly sublime though, a genuinely engaging spirit, unlike Byron who is largely show.
 
I read through that one. That looks like an excellent poem. I will reread it later on. I need to spend an hour or so on a lot of poems to realise them fully. To ponder them. I just got the complete collection of Wordsworth today, and I can see he was prolific! I briefly read through a few and they are wonderful. His peaceful world is bliss to me. It is in sharp contrast to todays world of rushing about. To me it is more relevant than ever. Good escapism.

The world is too much with us; late and soon,
Getting and spending, we lay waste our powers;—
Little we see in Nature that is ours;
We have given our hearts away, a sordid boon!
This Sea that bares her bosom to the moon;
The winds that will be howling at all hours,
And are up-gathered now like sleeping flowers;
For this, for everything, we are out of tune;
It moves us not. Great God! I’d rather be
A Pagan suckled in a creed outworn;
So might I, standing on this pleasant lea,
Have glimpses that would make me less forlorn;
Have sight of Proteus rising from the sea;
Or hear old Triton blow his wreathèd horn.
 
The world is too much with us; late and soon,
Getting and spending, we lay waste our powers;—
Little we see in Nature that is ours;
We have given our hearts away, a sordid boon!
This Sea that bares her bosom to the moon;
The winds that will be howling at all hours,
And are up-gathered now like sleeping flowers;
For this, for everything, we are out of tune;
It moves us not. Great God! I’d rather be
A Pagan suckled in a creed outworn;
So might I, standing on this pleasant lea,
Have glimpses that would make me less forlorn;
Have sight of Proteus rising from the sea;
Or hear old Triton blow his wreathèd horn.
This is superb. What a statement and how beautifully put. Maybe he was being rushed about against his will also. It seems so.
 
I am reading a biography of Wordsworth. Going back to the post earlier about them being thought of as French spies, by the locals, as they roamed the countryside, Wordswoth was born in 1770, which of course is the French Revolution era, but, what hits home about how long ago it was is that Louis Quatorze, le Roi Soleil, died in 1715! Not so long ago from Wordsworths birth. This biography is wonderful, slow and peaceful.
I always find it a great shame that the camera wasnt invented until later. It would be wonderful to see photos of Sun King in different eras, indeed photos of any of the people in these eras, and the Peasants as they were. I am not a fan of anything in particular, just curious to see and know.
 
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I read and enjoyed Richard Holmes's bio of Coleridge, both books. Always fancied doing a walk on some of the old footpaths and lanes that he must have walked.
 
Coleridge cottage in West Somerset is worth a visit. Seems that when they wandered around the countryside the locals thought they were french spies.
I have just finished the Wordsworth Biography ( by Hunter Davies ). The French spies wandering the countryside in the West Country was mentioned.

I QUOTE

In August 1797, a local Doctor sent the following account of his suspicions to the Duke of Portland, the Home Secretary.
" On the 8th instant I took the liberty to aquaint your grace with a very suspicious business concerning an emigrant family who have contrived to get possession of a mansion house at Alfoxden. I am since informed that the Master of the house has no wife with him but only a Woman who passes for his sister.The man has Camp Stools which he and his visitors take with them, when they go about the country upon their nocturnal or diurnal excursions which they have been heard to say were almost finished. They have been heard to say they should be rewarded for them, and were very attentive to the River near them..... These people may possibly be under-Agents to some Principal in Bristol.



The plot thickened, so much that a Home Office Secret Agent, a Mr G Walsh, was sent down to keep an eye on the suspected spies and write a full report on their activities. The Official Home Office correspondence is proof that this all happened. The details have been invaluable to literary students in furnishing details of William`s, Dorothy`s and Coleridgres ( Coleridge was also one of the French spies ) life at the time and of the visitors who came to see them.
Walsh took up his quarters in the local Inn at Stowey and began to spy on them, lying behind sand-dunes when they were on the Sea-shore, listening to Wordsworth and Coleridge discussing someone called Spy-Nozy - which convinced him he was on the right track, since he did not realise that they were discussing Spinoza.
Walsh sounds rather like a down-trodden John le Carré secret agent, sent from London to trail around after some rural eccentrics for no apparent reason. In the end he realised they werent either French or "immigrants", though they might be harmful, all the same. Walsh said " I think this will turn out no French affair but a mischiefous gang of dissafected Englishmen"

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