Who's going along to the G20 protests?

[In Bloom]

I just wrote a long post about the differences between focussed small scale specific protests and massive general ones, but I realised that it had all been stated already.

I didn't ask you about "the differences between focussed small scale specific protests and massive general ones" though, did I? I asked you what you thought the G20 protests, specfically, might achieve.

 

[ajdown]

I'll take full responsibility for my actions. I'll be exercising my democratic right to peacefuly protest as will the majority of people on the demo.

However, if the police start shoving batons in the faces of peaceful protesters, then I'll certainly blame them for incitement and disproportionate violence. They are guilty of that sometimes, you know.

The most responsible thing you, and many others could do, is stay the hell away from it.

As for your 'batons' comment, don't you think that if people actually listened to the police and complied, they wouldn't need to resort to getting batons out to warn people for the last time, comply or suffer.

You don't think there are more important things going on in the world than the right to throw a brick through a McDonalds window?

 

[_float_]

I didn't ask you about "the differences between focussed small scale specific protests and massive general ones" though, did I? I asked you what you thought the G20 protests, specfically, might achieve.

And I asked you if you could give an example of how your protests have achieved more (than 'little or nothing') and your reply was "Fuck off".

I need to take a break now, so I will get back with an answer later.

Hopefully you will have an answer for me too.

 

[editor]

The most responsible thing you, and many others could do, is stay the hell away from it.

As for your 'batons' comment, don't you think that if people actually listened to the police and complied, they wouldn't need to resort to getting batons out to warn people for the last time, comply or suffer.

How long have you been a fan of fascism?

 

[Kanda]

How long have you been a fan of fascism?

Stopping people from lobbing bricks through windows isn't really fascism is it?

Problem is, too many loons have done in the past. So it's just expected every time.

 

[cesare]

The most responsible thing you, and many others could do, is stay the hell away from it.

As for your 'batons' comment, don't you think that if people actually listened to the police and complied, they wouldn't need to resort to getting batons out to warn people for the last time, comply or suffer.

You don't think there are more important things going on in the world than the right to throw a brick through a McDonalds window?

Who is suggesting throwing a brick through McDonalds window, exactly?

 

[lostexpectation]

see they shut east london uni uel, where they were suppose to have an alternative summit

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/03/425772.html

 

[Matt S]

This from the Guardian coverage of the pre G20 meltdown gathering today:

"The police are not the enemy, the enemy is the system," said Pepper, an organiser of G20 Meltdown. "After the revolution we will still need the police."

Nice to know.

Matt

 

[butchersapron]

Pepper the lib-dem.

 

[Matt S]

Is it me, or are the organisers of G20 Meltdown universally...umm...eccentric?

Matt

 

[Corax]

don't you think that if people actually listened to the police and complied, they wouldn't need to resort to getting batons out to warn people for the last time, comply or suffer.

Do you really think that's how it works? You've clearly never seen polis tactics in the flesh. You rely on the meeja for your information on these matters I suppose.

Which doesn't excuse you being a dick, but does explain it a little.

 

[butchersapron]

Butchersapron - frankly fuck knows what he supports or opposes because he never seems to say anything coherent, although he was talking posively about the AF in the thread I linked to last year.

Not true btw there's an overarching coherence to my contributions (libertarian communism as w/c self activity) aside from any passing fun i may have at people like you.

 

[Blagsta]

Is it me, or are the organisers of G20 Meltdown universally...umm...eccentric?

Matt

They're not the best ad for radical politics!

 

[Blagsta]

Not true btw there's an overarching coherence to my contributions (libertarian communism as w/c self activity) aside from any passing fun i may have at people like you.

Indeed. You can be fairly cryptic sometimes though!

 

[bluestreak]

The most responsible thing you, and many others could do, is stay the hell away from it.

As for your 'batons' comment, don't you think that if people actually listened to the police and complied, they wouldn't need to resort to getting batons out to warn people for the last time, comply or suffer.

You don't think there are more important things going on in the world than the right to throw a brick through a McDonalds window?

oh fuck off you sanctimonious bigoted ignorant prick? why you feel the need to stick your oar in when you know absolutely nothing except the sort of crap you're fed by the daily mail i don't know. go out and get a clue, then if you still disagree with protest, come and have a conversation about it rather than throw shit around like a lobotomised monkey.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

The most responsible thing you, and many others could do, is stay the hell away from it.

As for your 'batons' comment, don't you think that if people actually listened to the police and complied, they wouldn't need to resort to getting batons out to warn people for the last time, comply or suffer.

You don't think there are more important things going on in the world than the right to throw a brick through a McDonalds window?

Fuck me but that is hilarious!

Do you really believe that the police give you a polite warning before waving a baton in your face?

I mean I have been on very few demos and could not exactly be described as an anarchist or radical or whatever but even I know what the police are like at such times

 

[jæd]

This from the Guardian coverage of the pre G20 meltdown gathering today:

"The police are not the enemy, the enemy is the system," said Pepper, an organiser of G20 Meltdown. "After the revolution we will still need the police."

Nice to know.

Matt

"We are here to reclaim elevenses," she said. "You used to have elevenses written in to your work contract, now you're expected to drink tea at your desk and not spill it on your keyboard.

Good to see someone has a worthy cause....

 

[editor]

Stopping people from lobbing bricks through windows isn't really fascism is it?

Problem is, too many loons have done in the past. So it's just expected every time.

Hey - why not try reading what I was replying to instead of barging in with random stuff about brick lobbers? Thanks.

 

[ajdown]

Do you really think that's how it works? You've clearly never seen polis tactics in the flesh.

Well no, I don't get involved in any illegal or potentially illegal activity, and should I happen to be in the area when something started kicking off, I'd make sure I was out of there as quick as I could.

Common sense really.

 

[editor]

Well no, I don't get involved in any illegal or potentially illegal activity, and should I happen to be in the area when something started kicking off, I'd make sure I was out of there as quick as I could.

Common sense really.

There is nothing illegal about assembling for a peaceful protest. Such protests have played an important part in Britain's political history for centuries, and even you should be concerned if the state pursues a campaign of introducing new measures to make this ancient right illegal for spurious reasons.

 

[Blagsta]

Well no, I don't get involved in any illegal or potentially illegal activity, and should I happen to be in the area when something started kicking off, I'd make sure I was out of there as quick as I could.

Common sense really.

You've never copied a CD, record or tape? Recorded something off the radio? Driven over the speedlimit? Drank alcohol underage?

 

[Corax]

As ed has said, peaceful protest is not a fuckin illegal activity. You utter knob.

 

[Cressi]

We are coming with our hats......with flowers on so hopefully we wont be hit with battons on the head.

My old folks agree..day off for me.....capitalism + communism has ended......what next they ask?

average age 75 and even they have sussed out they are being robbed alive......even more so when dead....

so they agree .....to alternative new ways of thinking........

and the women from our organic group agree.......one day of the year we can all dance , picnic + celebrate in the city.......for free...

INVEST IN CARING NOT KILLING............is one of the chants we will sing.

If the state controlled police with JSmith s the acting head wishes to bash us on our heads.............

well shouldnt they be lookin out for serial rapists and murderers instead of a few demonstraters.

J Smith has let women down by her incompetent police force. Useless.

 

[Corax]

Absolutely.

 

[bluestreak]

Well no, I don't get involved in any illegal or potentially illegal activity, and should I happen to be in the area when something started kicking off, I'd make sure I was out of there as quick as I could.

You lie. When you first came on this board you were involved in activism against the Brixton scientologists along with a couple of others on here.

 

[YouSir]

I'll be up there, wondering around in a confused sort of way, should be a loverly day out.

 

[asbestos]

Sunny & 13°C according to the beeb.

 

[editor]

Lovely!

 

[chegrimandi]

hope you all have a good day - have too much other stuff going on at the minute to come but please all stay safe - had bad feeling you will get battered - have seen numerous chinooks tonight over london....

 

[albionism]

Does anyone here know anything about Marina Pepper? who appears to be something
of a spokesperson for g20 meltdown. I believe she was once a Lib-Dem mayor?. Seems an
unlikely person to be on the front line come wednesday.
Just wondering like. Cheers