Which jab did you have - Astra Zeneca or Pfizer? And what side effects?

[gentlegreen]

Spain has paused AZ vaccine due to 1 sudden death of a healthy teacher in Marbella

Isn't a brain haemorrhage the opposite of a clot ?

 

[Riklet]

Yeah i mean personally I dont think they should pause use, especially not at the moment, but it's also too soon to say there is no issue. And if there is an issue then AZ need to get it together fast.

gentlegreen I am no medical expert but I saw it attributed to being a kind of thrombosis.

 

[8ball]

Spain has paused AZ vaccine due to 1 sudden death of a healthy teacher in Marbella and a few other unusual thrombosis cases.

I'd take the vaccine any day, clearly it's remarkably safe, but you can see why there's worry - when there's potentially a recurring pattern, albeit affecting a tiny number of people.

There's a much more well-established pattern of Covid-19 killing people.

 

[LDC]

My shit half-paying attention understanding is it's the type of clot that's one of the issues of concern, rather than them being run of the mill DVT/PEs.

 

[8ball]

At the risk of repeating myself, in Germany they had seen seven incidences of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis in ~1.6 million vaccinees. This is several times the general population background rate, hence the precautionary suspension. The general thromboembolic rate for all approved vaccines is running lower than that in the general population(s) so no cause to pause for that class of event alone.

For context it would be useful to run some sample tests on random sets of 1.6 million Germans across all unusual bleeding event types and see if you can pull anything out.

 

[LDC]

Shit and quick investi-Google says incidence of CVT of between 2-5 per million people per year.

Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis Incidence Is Higher Than Previously Thought: A Retrospective Population-Based Study - PubMed

Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis in our study was more common than previously reported, perhaps because of more complete ascertainment. Future CVT incidence studies should include comprehensive capture and review of neuroimaging.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[planetgeli]

Yay! China trumps them all in the nationalist vaccination stakes.

China to only allow foreign visitors who have had Chinese-made vaccine

Move raises questions as China’s vaccines not approved in many countries to which it is opening travel

www.theguardian.com

This is getting ridiculous.

 

[2hats]

Shit and quick investi-Google says incidence of CVT of between 2-5 per million people per year.

Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis Incidence Is Higher Than Previously Thought: A Retrospective Population-Based Study - PubMed

Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis in our study was more common than previously reported, perhaps because of more complete ascertainment. Future CVT incidence studies should include comprehensive capture and review of neuroimaging.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Bundesministerium für Gesundheit states it would expect to see 1-1.4 incidences of CVST in 1.6 million people in the two weeks post-inoculation but are seeing something like 6 times that, predominately in younger women, so pause out of a statutory duty of care.

Deutschlands Informationsplattform zum Coronavirus

Wie Sie sich schützen und anderen helfen können.

www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de

 

[trashpony]

So final summing up from me (which seems to tie in with a lot of people):

• had my vaccination about 1.30pm on Monday
• felt tired rest of the day and was exhausted Monday and Tuesday evening - no energy, went to bed early both nights and on Tuesday I couldn't be bothered to make any dinner.

Woke up feeling fine Wednesday. Odd aches in funny places but none at all at vaccination site

 

[muscovyduck]

Hope you are feeling better now, that sounds really shitty.

Must admit, I did a bit of searching before having the jab about any potential interaction with medical conditions I have (fybromyalgia and an underactive thyroid). There didn't seem to be any, but the situation is ready made for nagging anxieties. Suppose it's ultimately a case of whilst they might not have mapped the side effects for every pre-existing condition, the overall benefits of the vaccine and the need to gets as many doses into arms wins out. For me, ultimately, the potential interactions of the vaccine with the conditions I have are not as bad as it would be getting Covid with those same conditions.

Edit: just read that back and it sounded a bit preachy towards you muscovyduck. Wasn't intended, I was just airing my own anxieties.

Don't worry, I usually assume the best and even reading it back more critically I couldn't pick up on a preachy vibe.

Also this has prodded me into adding my endorsement of the vaccine - the side effects are awful so imagine how much worse it would be to actually catch the fucking thing.

Am feeling a bit better roughly 33 hours in, can't even remember what I've posted on urban just remember occasionally posting. My timeline matches with everyone else's. I got the jab first thing in the morning and was fine fine fine until I crashed in the late afternoon/early evening. Then over the next about 18 hours needed to actively manage it. The lulls where I was waiting for the paracetamol (later switched to co-codamol) to kick in were usually the worst bits. Slept through most of today too. Am now feeling a bit naff but moving around the house so a lot better than I was.

Didn't quite function exactly like a really bad hangover but has had the same sort of vibe. I was honestly just an idiot about it, I've gotten cocky because I used to be run down all the time but lockdown has 'saved' me from that so I forgot what it's like. I had this idea I'd get some mild placebo reaction and it'd be a bit of a laugh but it wasn't

 

[Hollis]

For me it hit from about 12 hours after injection (the tiredness and weirdly sore teeth) - at which point I took paracetamol in the form of Lemsip. Hope you continued to be side effects free or at least that they were mild!

I've not had any side effects.. as the BBC article says I guess it is down to genetics...

 

[trashpony]

I've not had any side effects.. as the BBC article says I guess it is down to genetics...

You are the James Bond of U75. Or something

 

[William of Walworth]

I've not had any side effects.. as the BBC article says I guess it is down to genetics...

You are the James Bond of U75. Or something

Hollis : we, and maybe other 'no-vaccine-side-effects-to-speak-of' people should all have a 'car-off' involving multiple exciting, special vehicles

Winner's prize would be being allowed to retire on James Bond's wages

 

[TopCat]

I have had an invite for another “first dose” with a second scheduled after. My GP is probably confused. I’m going to get one, this will act as the second.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I have had an invite for another “first dose” with a second scheduled after. My GP is probably confused. I’m going to get one, this will act as the second.

Better check it's the same version before actually getting jabbed.

 

[TopCat]

Better check it's the same version before actually getting jabbed.

I checked it’s the Pfizer jab.

 

[Spymaster]

We had the a first dose of AZ yesterday at 4pm. I've put 'no side effects' in the poll but I did get very tired and fell asleep at around 9pm. Just woke up at 3.30am bright and breezy . Other than that, nothing at all.

I was very impressed by the set-up at the vaccination centre which in our case was at Lords cricket ground. It was a very slick operation with a short outside queue that kept moving constantly and plenty of people explaining what to do and where to go. The whole thing took about 15 minutes from joining the queue to leaving the building.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

Mr. QofG's had his Tuesday morning (Oxford AstraZeneca), by 9pm he was shivering, cold, nauseous and very fatigued. The following morning the nausea and chills were gone but the fatigue was there and he slept much of the day.

He also lost his appetite which continued into Thursday after the other symptomshad gone.

He's generally very healthy and rarely gets ill but when he does for instance get a cold it tends to effect him quite badly.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

He also said that while he was trying to get comfy during the nausea he had a kind of half awake half asleep dream in which his body was filled with bubbles that he had to equalise, rather like being a human spirit level.

I don't think that's side effect I just thought it was a quite a cool dream

 

[Petcha]

I have had an invite for another “first dose” with a second scheduled after. My GP is probably confused. I’m going to get one, this will act as the second.

I think the second dose is a different strength from the first so I'd check that. I remember during the trials they accidentally discovered that a lighter second dose was actually more effective.

 

[AverageJoe]

The Baroness had the Pfizer one and two weeks later developed a massive scaly rash over her back and arms.

She had to go to the Docs and get steroid cream for it. It's taken about ten days to go down.

I've got photos but don't want to put them up in case they leak into the wider domain. They're pretty nasty.

Well we're now two weeks later and the rash is still there. She's had two trips to the Docs, one to a skin specialist and this week had a skin biopsy. She's got to wait two weeks for the results.

She's been given creams and steroids and she says the itching is receding. She does look much better.

Here's the rash when is started. It's all over her body apart from her head. It's scaly and itchy and obviously it bleeds where she's been scratching it.

 

[TopCat]

I think the second dose is a different strength from the first so I'd check that. I remember during the trials they accidentally discovered that a lighter second dose was actually more effective.

I’m nervous now to be fair. I only want the Pfizer jab. Are you sure the first and second jabs are differing strengths?

 

[TopCat]

Well we're now two weeks later and the rash is still there. She's had two trips to the Docs, one to a skin specialist and this week had a skin biopsy. She's got to wait two weeks for the results.

She's been given creams and steroids and she says the itching is receding. She does look much better.

Here's the rash when is started. It's all over her body apart from her head. It's scaly and itchy and obviously it bleeds where she's been scratching it.

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Oh dear.

 

[Petcha]

I’m nervous now to be fair. I only want the Pfizer jab. Are you sure the first and second jabs are differing strengths?

No, not 100%. I just remember it was news at the time as it was some kind of happy accident that they discovered it. That may have been the Oxford one though. Have a google!

 

[Petcha]

I’m nervous now to be fair. I only want the Pfizer jab. Are you sure the first and second jabs are differing strengths?

Here you go. Sorry for scaring you! Seems they're the same

Is the second dose of the Covid vaccine same as first?

There is no difference between the first and second doses of the COVID-19 vaccine. People's reactions might differ, but not because the doses are different.

 

[cupid_stunt]

No, not 100%. I just remember it was news at the time as it was some kind of happy accident that they discovered it. That may have been the Oxford one though. Have a google!

It was the Oxford one.

 

[magneze]

Had it yesterday morning. Arm ached a bit in the afternoon. Had a bit of a headache and around 11pm. Fitful nights sleep so don't really feel rested today but that's about it so far.

I've put AZ, no side effects as the above seem really mild and might just be because it's the end of the week.

 

[two sheds]

his body was filled with bubbles that he had to equalise, rather like being a human spirit level.

That's genius

and could be very useful next time you have to put up a bookshelf.

 

[D'wards]

I read there's been a few incidences of people being "overdosed" on the vaccine accidentally.
Due to mistakes made with dilution some old folks were given six doses in one injection.
They kept an eye on them but they had no ill effects out of the normal, and some still had no side effects

 

[cupid_stunt]

When do any side effects kick in, after the 5G upgrade with the Oxford/AZ chip?

I am 9 hours in, and not even a sore arm.