What's the most ridiculous thing you've heard at a political meeting/rally?
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poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Indeed, and I always said that was bullshit at the time - much to the rage of the trots. Apparently, I am STILL wrong for thinking this at the time - even though I was subsequently proved right.tbaldwin said:
.New Labour was elected by the neo-bougeoisie (who the far-left often confuse as being part of the working class) on a branzenly rightwing programme and never made any promises to deliver anything for the working class. Hence there were no expectations to shatter from the working classes and the middleclasses were only too happy, thank you, with what NuLab were doing. I can remember the types who were all enthusisatic - it was the lower and middle management-types who felt squeezed by "incompetant" (always described as "incompetant" - never "wrong" or "unjust") tory polcies but wanted a competant rightwing government that allowed them to keep a firm grip over their workers and create more career and corporate-ladderclimbing opportunities for them. Which is what, for them, NuLab delivered.
The only people who had any illusions in Labour or the forecast reaction to it were the far-left.
I certainly lost MY illusions in the far-left in the years following this clueless debacle.
dennisr
the acceptable face
poster342002 said:Indeed - and I always said that was bullshit at the time - much to the rage of the trots. Apparently, I am STILL wrong for thinking this at the time - even though I was subsequently proved right.
What "at the time" in 1966?
you are talking out of your arse again mate
dennisr
the acceptable face
tbaldwin said:
the growth of right-wing movements in post war uk has always been under the wing of labour governments letting folk down.. so we would point that out as we have previously. It also opens up possible movements further to the left in reaction to that labour government.
fuck, why am i bothering to delude my self I am actually going to be able to 'engage' with you? its not like you or posters stuck records actually give a feck about any sense of truth.
You both talk wank
Taxamo Welf
kebagels pls
ah yesglenquagmire said:
Can always rely on Workers Power to do something like that. If i could remember them, all my stories would be from WP too.
Taxamo Welf
kebagels pls
I remember thatoctober_lost said:
Happy days.
cockneyrebel
New Member
So in other words you were talking bollox.
Agree with other people that people like you and and an ever dwindling band thinking that the Labour Party can be reclaimed for socialism is surely one of the most ridiculous things ever on the left.
nightbreed
Im Bored
Back in the mid 80s there was a documentary about Liverpool City Council and Militant . The programme was relatively sympathetic until they interviewed one young LPYS member who , when asked her views about what is a socialist society, she explained amongst other things that cars would run on water.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Yeah, 'We are all Hiz/Hez/Huz/Hoz-bollah' ransk as a cracker.
Not a rally, but Geldof at Glastonbury 05 during that whole Live8 nonsense:
'I don't want this to be a rock and roll monent, with lighters and all that, but can everyone join hands, raise them and shout out to the G8 'Make Poverty History'...
durruti02 said:
I remember going through Bermondsey in 92. When those tossers burned a union jack.....Oh my fucking god.......What a fucking day.......
Lee Jasper what a total utter scumbag, in the name of anti racism he put so many Black people at risk that day.....egotistical idiot.
october_lost
It's not hip any more...
Because its devoid of any sort of class arguement, it was obviously by a group who had no base or any impact upon the native/host community and singled out a group without reference to any wider problems. Its leftism at its best and frankly beyond parody, but its what I have come to expect from the swappies.TAE said:
Seeing that slogan put on a poster actually inflamed many people in my mind, I remember seeing it blazoned across decaying housing in Burnley thinking "nice own goal"
John Rees speaking at Marxism
We single drove the worst PM this country has ever seen from office, no matter what the history book will write we did it"
http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/
We single drove the worst PM this country has ever seen from office, no matter what the history book will write we did it"
http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/
grogwilton
Well-Known Member
I actually thought that was bollocks, but the SWP and STW actually had more to do with Blairs downfall then people give us credit for. Believe me I always thought it was Party bluster, but after apeaking to a Nu Labour activist I know i reconsidered.
He is a poilitcs graduate and loves Nu Labour, and he got a job working for a female Nu Labour MP, who led the rebellion against Blair in the party. Her reason was his failure to call for a ceasefire during the recent Israeli invasion of Lebanon, and it was the straw that broke the camels back. She has a large Muslim constituency. Now 'single handedly' destroying Blair is bollocks, but STWs involvement in the Lebanon issue must have been important.
He is a poilitcs graduate and loves Nu Labour, and he got a job working for a female Nu Labour MP, who led the rebellion against Blair in the party. Her reason was his failure to call for a ceasefire during the recent Israeli invasion of Lebanon, and it was the straw that broke the camels back. She has a large Muslim constituency. Now 'single handedly' destroying Blair is bollocks, but STWs involvement in the Lebanon issue must have been important.
Tom A
Goat among sheep
That's an alarmingly common way of thinking within my uni's branch of Labour Students though going by the engagements I have had on local message boards. They then have the nerve to accuse me of not knowing anything about the party because I have never bothered to engage with it's members... hello, who has been running the UK goverment for the past 10 years?!?cockneyrebel said:
Gavin Bl
terrible awful baaad
These are circa 1996 when I was an SWPer...
Chris Bambery at a big organising meeting for SWP members, when membership generously speaking was 10k - "we need to have 50,000 members in 3 years". Hmm, OK.
At a meeting I was chairing on crime - the speaker said that the first task of the revolution would be to release ALL prisoners in jails, I spent the rest of the meeting trying to limit the damage (claiming it was a rhetorical flourish), as various people piped up with 'What about Peter Sutcliffe/Denis Nilssen/other psycho?'
And the one that sealed my departure from said organisation, at a meeting on 'War' - I said that war might become less frequent after socialism, but I didn't see how we could say it would 'disappear'. I was corrected by a comrade who told me that
"why should there be war, when everything could be solved by a show of hands?"
happy days
Chris Bambery at a big organising meeting for SWP members, when membership generously speaking was 10k - "we need to have 50,000 members in 3 years". Hmm, OK.
At a meeting I was chairing on crime - the speaker said that the first task of the revolution would be to release ALL prisoners in jails, I spent the rest of the meeting trying to limit the damage (claiming it was a rhetorical flourish), as various people piped up with 'What about Peter Sutcliffe/Denis Nilssen/other psycho?'
And the one that sealed my departure from said organisation, at a meeting on 'War' - I said that war might become less frequent after socialism, but I didn't see how we could say it would 'disappear'. I was corrected by a comrade who told me that
"why should there be war, when everything could be solved by a show of hands?"
happy days
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