Westminster sexual abuse scandals

[Wilf]

Some of these appear to be outing gays and accusing women of promiscuity. Seems seedy alongside the harassment accusations. All very Tory to the bone.

All very true, there's an element of abuse in whoever compiled the list. Whoever did it clearly didn't have the protection of young parliamentary researchers as their main priority.

Having been all high minded and said the above I still can't resist being intrigued by some of the detail... likes to be pissed on by three men. Very specific, this micturatory triad.

 

[Sue]

I just don't think scenarios 1 & 3 are plausible.

Regarding the first one people know the difference between some drunk knob invading your personal space and being tactile rather than some drunk knob getting handy and lecherous. Given the seriousness of some of the allegations there is no way he would be resigning over drunkenly putting his arm around people.

As for scenario 3, well he's just resigned in disgrace which would seem an odd way of saying 'I no longer fancy the job'. Surely you'd just pull the 'more time with the family' card or say you want to concentrate on 'local constituency issues close to your heart'?

Scenario 2 is possible but people have probably known about that for a long time, so why now? I just think the most likely thing is that he's a been a low level sleaze for a long time and there have been a slew of complaints about him. The one incident we know about was clearly enough for the H-B to tell him to f-off do we honestly think that was a one off? Guys who cross that line are happy to chance their arm every time, because you never know etc.

Yep. The 'genuinely innocent, touchy feely after a few drinks' excuse has been used by and about sleazy men ever since I can remember.

And touching up someone in a work context has never been fucking acceptable. This 'times have changed' line that's being pushed in general is really, really annoying me.

 

[pesh]

Fun Thursday game: what can we think of that was by some measure acceptable in 2002/2007 and isn't acceptable now?

Was he in Nickelback?

Psy-trance promoter?

 

[bimble]

That list definitely looks like it was compiled in case there’s a need for leverage against the people on it, certainly not a list of things that you (list compiler) intend to do anything about .

 

[Teaboy]

That list definitely looks like it was compiled in case there’s a need for leverage against the people on it, certainly not a list of things that you (list compiler) intend to do anything about .

Yeah its pressure points isn't it? That's probably the best thing you can say about it the other option is that its a total load of old bollocks.

 

[Kaka Tim]

All very true, there's an element of abuse in whoever compiled the list. Whoever did it clearly didn't have the protection of young parliamentary researchers as their main priority.

Im guessing the author is someone close to staines - that's if he didn't write it up himself.

 

[Wilf]

Ruth Davidson increases the pressure on May to
May urged to end 'locker room culture' after Fallon resignation
References to the Augean Stables and 'locker room culture'. Clearly an attempt to stop May merely 'managing' the crisis.

 

[Pickman's model]

Ruth Davidson increases the pressure on May to
May urged to end 'locker room culture' after Fallon resignation
References to the Augean Stables and 'locker room culture'. Clearly an attempt to stop May merely 'managing' the crisis.

may couldn't manage a small shop

 

[bimble]

Had to look up the mythological reference. Good that, immortal cattle producing mountains of shit that’s never been cleaned out.

 

[Wilf]

Im guessing the author is someone close to staines - that's if he didn't write it up himself.

Looks like the work of somebody trying to be clever, but in mixing serious allegations with salacious shite they reveal their own prejudices and purposes. But if it was Staines, what would the purpose be, to bring May down or to bring down some of the names on the list?

 

[Pickman's model]

Had to look up the mythological reference. Good that, immortal cattle producing mountains of shit that’s never been cleaned out.

we could divert the thames through the commons. while it was sitting.

 

[DotCommunist]

Ruth Davidson increases the pressure on May to
May urged to end 'locker room culture' after Fallon resignation
References to the Augean Stables and 'locker room culture'. Clearly an attempt to stop May merely 'managing' the crisis.

unfortunatly parliament seems to lack anyone of herculean stature. Its all spivs, theives, sex pests and dangerous ideolouges who haven't cleaned thier own shitter in 10 years let alone mucked out the mythical stable

 

[killer b]

Looks like the work of somebody trying to be clever, but in mixing serious allegations with salacious shite they reveal their own prejudices and purposes. But if it was Staines, what would the purpose be, to bring May down or to bring down some of the names on the list?

I did a bit of googling, and it's mostly people who campaigned for remain fwiw. Not sure if that means anything though.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Looks like the work of somebody trying to be clever, but in mixing serious allegations with salacious shite they reveal their own prejudices and purposes. But if it was Staines, what would the purpose be, to bring May down or to bring down some of the names on the list?

Im guessing - self promotion for his blog + he's a natural bully and seems to like being disruptive for the sake of it.

 

[Pickman's model]

I did a bit of googling, and it's mostly people who campaigned for remain fwiw. Not sure if that means anything though.

it means there's another list

 

[killer b]

Maybe - I'm not sure what the split was though - the government line was remain, so you'd still expect a majority of the party to campaign in support of the govt. it might just reflect that.

 

[not-bono-ever]

may couldn't manage a small shop

Running a small shop require vision, dedication, interpersonal skillz, financial acumen, dealing with shirty punters demanding credit for booze and efficient stock rotation. She has non of those attributes. She is useless

 

[danny la rouge]

may couldn't manage a small shop

But she does talk Cretan bull.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Yep. The 'genuinely innocent, touchy feely after a few drinks' excuse has been used by and about sleazy men ever since I can remember.

And touching up someone in a work context has never been fucking acceptable. This 'times have changed' line that's being pushed in general is really, really annoying me.

Yep - 20 years ago I knew that open leching and touching up was verboten - how come the rest of the UK seemed to take this stuff on board, yet our masters felt they were above it all ?

 

[killer b]

Yep - 20 years ago I knew that open leching and touching up was verboten - how come the rest of the UK seemed to take this stuff on board, yet our masters felt they were above it all ?

Surely the last couple of weeks has demonstrated - if somehow you didn't know - that the rest of the UK hasn't taken it onboard at all?

 

[Wilf]

Had to look up the mythological reference. Good that, immortal cattle producing mountains of shit that’s never been cleaned out.

Let the Punishment Fit the Crime

Forced to push a bolder uphill for all eternity - David Brexit Davis
Have his liver pecked out by an eagle for all eternity - Fallon
Left in a pool of water with food Number 10 permanently out of reach - Gove
Fitted to a bed and be either stretched or have bits chopped off - Any of the cunts
To gaze on his own reflection in a lake till he starves - Johnson
Killed by the hair of the Gorgon - Fabricant

 

[Wilf]

we could divert the thames through the commons. while it was sitting.

Or just go with William Morris and make it a store for real shit.

 

[Pickman's model]

Or just go with William Morris and make it a store for real shit.

it's a store for 650 real shits.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Fallon replaced by the chief whip.

'So, we need a new defence secretary. Who haven't you got any dirt on then?'

 

[Wilf]

Fallon replaced by the chief whip.

'So, we need a new defence secretary. Who haven't you got any dirt on then?'

"What about X?"
- Nah, likes getting pissed on
"Fuck. Okay, what about Y?"
- Yeah, she'd be good. Hang on, just checking... oh shit, asks assistants to do odd things
"Kinnell. What about Z?"
- Yeah, Z would good. Oh, hang on, Z is Fallon"
"Bollocks. And could you take your hand off my knee?"

 

[killer b]

Presumably he'll be straight out again when it emerges he's been using MPs sex crimes to keep them in line...

 

[killer b]

crikey.

 

[Pickman's model]

Presumably he'll be straight out again when it emerges he's been using MPs sex crimes to keep them in line...

i always think of george galloway when i see that video, the big brother face staring at you

 

[Wilf]

Hard to know whether Michel Barnier will be laughing or crying this morning.

 

[ViolentPanda]

nah, I've got Gove in the 'creep' column.

He's definitely deep in the creep.