ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
toggle said:or even a *contribution*
toggle said:or even a *contribution*
Hi BK
Just to assure you that
1. You asked me to request that your name be taken down from a board, which I did, you know that the posting had nothing to do with me and I respect your right to anonymity.
2. You posted a comment on my blog from your workplace. I commented that an article written about Richmal Oates-Whitehead was published in a magazine which your company publishes.
3. You sent me your work phone number in a PM and asked me to call you. I never did. I replied that I prefer to have all communication in the public arena.
4. I am not a member of any 'organisation'. I just post or contribute to various forums, and only on issues around 7th July.
5. I find your insinuations and smears nasty and underhand. I would certainly never harrass anyone, by phone or mail, and don't know of anyone who has.
6. I introduced myself to you after the Milan Rai book launch in London, an event at which no-one heckled you.
7. Anything I have ever said is in the public arena for people to judge for themselves.
8. I feel sorry that you are disturbed by anyone that you have contact with, on boards etc, just to reassure you BK, you have nowt to fear from me. I know what it feels like to receive threats, I have had them on my blog.
Good. It is hard to tell if the anonymous comments are you, so I shall take your word that you have stopped leaving named or anonymous comments on my website as of now.9. You requested on your blog that you wanted no more engagement with anyone in the 7/7 truth movement and I have respected that request.
[/QUOTE]10. I only make this one comment on here because I found your insinuations against me pesonally offensive and feel safer stating this in the public domain.
ViolentPanda said:
Lock&Light said:Once again it would be nice to know what the fuck you're both on about?
9. 'Report this post' option. This is your way of helping the moderators turf out troublesome posters/trollsters and advertisers. Please do not use it for anything other than posts that clearly break the rules listed here. If a post or thread disappears, DO NOT start a thread asking why - PM a moderator or post up a polite request for information in the feedback forum (and nowhere else) instead.
toggle said:you should read more of the threads you comment on. Then I'm sure you would unsderstand more.
Lock&Light said:I never comment on any thread without having read it first. Can you say the same?
toggle said:Well, considering that you would understand that comment had you read and understood a recent thread you commented on, you've just shot yourself in the foot there.
Lock&Light said:You expect me to remember every thread I ever comment on? You seem to me to be shooting yourself in the head, mate.
toggle said:well, vp and i remembered it.
just having too much fun watching you being a twat, again.
Lock&Light said:Your unpleasantness is noted. Others will judge who is acting like a twat.
Lock&Light said:Once again it would be nice to know what the fuck you're both on about?
Lock&Light said:Your unpleasantness is noted. Others will judge who is acting like a twat.
ViolentPanda said:toggle and I are sharing our amusement at just how pathetic you are.
There, NOW do you know "what the fuck we're on about", you pussilanimous pissant?
Pass 'em on to the old bill. You'd do the same if it were ordinary religious nutters bothering you rather than these cultists.Badger Kitten said:So I went along with another survivor from my train who'd also been getting mad messages on her blog, to see them, and David Shayler in action. After getting the PM, I called her and we jumped in a cab, eager to see who these loons were who'd been discussing us for months and leaving comments on my blog and in some cases, vaguely threeatening emails.
I think "article of faith" is about right, and the fact that they perceive their beliefs to be "anti-establishment" is merely the icing on a very pathetic cake.There were about 20 or fewer members of the British 9/11 Truth Movement, taking up about a third of an upstairs room at a pub. They were much older than I'd suspected, most of them in their late thirties or forties or fifties, mostly white, mostly middle class. Very sincere, clearly '' eccentric'', but it was as if I'd walked into some wierd church sect. When I mentioned to one that I wasn't convinced of the ''no suicide bombs/all a psy-ops false flag theory'' ( without saying who I was) he looked at me as if I had just spat in church, like an Fundementalist Evangelical being told Jesus was gay. He stalked off looking disgusted.
It is an article of faith with them, I now see, all this counter-official-rumour-conpiracy stuff. An inverted world view, through the looking glass.
Thing is, I don't think they will leave you alone unless you do something harsh (like passing any threats on to the police) because you're a threat to their belief system, your rationality undermines their faith, your existence as an individual person rather than a collective MI5 personality shows their "religion" up as the rather tawdry trainspotterism that it really is.So this odd meeting reassured me that they were harmless eccentrics. But then the Charles Clarke row with my dad about no 7/7 Public Enquiry meant my dad's name was in the press. Cue letters and calls to Dad, about me and 7/7 from conspuiracy theorists... (Dad's name is in the directory.)
It's completely mad, that's what it is. I've tried to engage with them. I 've tried to ask them why they come on my blog and try to convert me, argue with me, have huge discussions about me, I've tried to defend myself, I've got angry, laughed at them, ignored them. In a way it is fascinating: they are so obsessed with an event that is still very much on my mind, but they weren't there and they have such odd ideas about it all and they go on and on about it. But it is also annoying, and upsetting, and when it comes to vague threats and personal abuse, distressing. I hoped that by seeing me they'd realise I wasn't team of M15 agents and leave me alone. But it's made them worse than ever.
At least here they get roundly mocked. I'm not going to even bother defending myself against them any more and I have put comment moderator on my blog so they can't post. I don't read emails from them. I've been signed off work for a month so I don't know if they have been bothering my work number but fuck it, life is too short to worry about them anymore. I guess they'll piss off eventually, I know they are keen to get traffic and be talked about and that is why they come after anyone blogging about July 7.
It was a beautiful sunny day today. I'm having a beer, and I've got my chores done, and I'm thinking, life is too short to waste with fruitbats arguing about lunacy. Fuck 'em. Seeing them face to face was wierdly reassuring after allk the aggro, seeing them being expertly deflated over here on u75 cheers me up no end.
*burp*
Bollocks to it.
Bin.
Everyone must be completely by now
Lock&Light said:You demean yourself, VP.
ViolentPanda said:Only in your eyes.
Lock&Light said:I think you're wrong about that, but, what matter?
Such vitriol as you allow to gush out can only serve to demean.
You often think that others are wrong. Facts usually prove otherwise.Lock&Light said:I think you're wrong about that, but, what matter?
Such vitriol as you allow to gush out can only serve to demean.
ViolentPanda said:Describing you as a pussilanimous pissant is a reasonably accurate summation if one is taking your unedifying contributions to this board as a measure, and not vitriolic in the least.
Lock&Light said:Pomposity demeans you as well.
toggle said:so do you have any comment about the op or bk's experiences with them?
Lock&Light said:Pomposity demeans you as well.
toggle said:so do you intend to make any comment about the topic?
Just noticed this. I appreciate your comment. A lot of what I was saying there was originally inspired by this article, which you might find interesting.Donna Ferentes said:This reminds me: could I beg that the binned thread "Conspiralons" be shifted back to here and locked, rather than eventually deleted? I ask because (if I have the right thread) some of the observations by Bernie Gunther about the similarities between Conspiracy Theory and religious behaviour were genuinely insightful and I would not like to see them lost. Now there's a surprise.