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So this thread started because someone sees an error in train times in someones book .So it all a conspricy ?
I never understand how 7/7 benefits the uk gov if they did it which i dont belive they did .
 
@ Prole

Hi BK

Just to assure you that

1. You asked me to request that your name be taken down from a board, which I did, you know that the posting had nothing to do with me and I respect your right to anonymity.

Thanks for that.

2. You posted a comment on my blog from your workplace. I commented that an article written about Richmal Oates-Whitehead was published in a magazine which your company publishes.

No - you gave my job title, company and inferred that I had something to do with the article about Richmal.

3. You sent me your work phone number in a PM and asked me to call you. I never did. I replied that I prefer to have all communication in the public arena.

As you already knew who I was, I contacted you with the hope that speaking to me in person might stop you and your felow posters from inferring that I was some kind of official plant.

4. I am not a member of any 'organisation'. I just post or contribute to various forums, and only on issues around 7th July.

Yes, you are very interested in July 7th and have been on my blog many times leaving bothersome comments, as well as writing about me on other forums with some unpleasant insinuations.

5. I find your insinuations and smears nasty and underhand. I would certainly never harrass anyone, by phone or mail, and don't know of anyone who has.

It is indeed unpleasant to be speculated about is it not? Fortunately, I did not say you were one of the people who have been calling and writing to my father. I know they post on the same boards as you, the British 9/11 Truth forum. I do not know their username.

6. I introduced myself to you after the Milan Rai book launch in London, an event at which no-one heckled you.

I was heckled, though I am not sure if it was you who called out ' Rachel needs to get her facts straight!'.

7. Anything I have ever said is in the public arena for people to judge for themselves.

And the sudden determination to discuss ''tactics'' with regard to attending and disrupting Milan's book launch tour now takes place in the ' private, non-public' area of the 9/11 forum, doesn't it? That is a new development. I don't know whether you have been contributing there or not. I take your word that yo have not been part of that, then.

8. I feel sorry that you are disturbed by anyone that you have contact with, on boards etc, just to reassure you BK, you have nowt to fear from me. I know what it feels like to receive threats, I have had them on my blog.

I am sure you understand then why I have asked you and other conspiracy theorists to leave me alone.

9. You requested on your blog that you wanted no more engagement with anyone in the 7/7 truth movement and I have respected that request.
Good. It is hard to tell if the anonymous comments are you, so I shall take your word that you have stopped leaving named or anonymous comments on my website as of now.

10. I only make this one comment on here because I found your insinuations against me pesonally offensive and feel safer stating this in the public domain.
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Looks like 10 comments to me, but let's all stay safe, eh?

Cheers
 
Lock&Light said:
Once again it would be nice to know what the fuck you're both on about?


you should read more of the threads you comment on. Then I'm sure you would unsderstand more.
 
It's fair to say though BK that before members of the 9/11 group turned up at one of your gigs, you had gone to one of theirs?
 
They invited me to come by PM.

I was in the process of asking them to stop claiming I was a team of M15 agents at the time.

(This will make a good novel one day. ;))
 
So I went along with another survivor from my train who'd also been getting mad messages on her blog, to see them, and David Shayler in action. After getting the PM, I called her and we jumped in a cab, eager to see who these loons were who'd been discussing us for months and leaving comments on my blog and in some cases, vaguely threeatening emails.


There were about 20 or fewer members of the British 9/11 Truth Movement, taking up about a third of an upstairs room at a pub. They were much older than I'd suspected, most of them in their late thirties or forties or fifties, mostly white, mostly middle class. Very sincere, clearly '' eccentric'', but it was as if I'd walked into some wierd church sect. When I mentioned to one that I wasn't convinced of the ''no suicide bombs/all a psy-ops false flag theory'' ( without saying who I was) he looked at me as if I had just spat in church, like an Fundementalist Evangelical being told Jesus was gay. He stalked off looking disgusted.
It is an article of faith with them, I now see, all this counter-official-rumour-conpiracy stuff. An inverted world view, through the looking glass.

So this odd meeting reassured me that they were harmless eccentrics. But then the Charles Clarke row with my dad about no 7/7 Public Enquiry meant my dad's name was in the press. Cue letters and calls to Dad, about me and 7/7 from conspuiracy theorists... (Dad's name is in the directory.)

It's completely mad, that's what it is. I've tried to engage with them. I 've tried to ask them why they come on my blog and try to convert me, argue with me, have huge discussions about me, I've tried to defend myself, I've got angry, laughed at them, ignored them. In a way it is fascinating: they are so obsessed with an event that is still very much on my mind, but they weren't there and they have such odd ideas about it all and they go on and on about it. But it is also annoying, and upsetting, and when it comes to vague threats and personal abuse, distressing. I hoped that by seeing me they'd realise I wasn't team of M15 agents and leave me alone. But it's made them worse than ever. :rolleyes:

At least here they get roundly mocked. I'm not going to even bother defending myself against them any more and I have put comment moderator on my blog so they can't post. I don't read emails from them. I've been signed off work for a month so I don't know if they have been bothering my work number but fuck it, life is too short to worry about them anymore. I guess they'll piss off eventually, I know they are keen to get traffic and be talked about and that is why they come after anyone blogging about July 7.

It was a beautiful sunny day today. I'm having a beer, and I've got my chores done, and I'm thinking, life is too short to waste with fruitbats arguing about lunacy. Fuck 'em. Seeing them face to face was wierdly reassuring after allk the aggro, seeing them being expertly deflated over here on u75 cheers me up no end.

*burp*

Bollocks to it.

Bin.

Everyone must be completely :confused: by now
 
ianrcrane, let's just cut to the chase:

When you signed up to u75 you were required to read the rules/faq: http://www.urban75.org/info/faq.html

Rule number 9:

9. 'Report this post' option. This is your way of helping the moderators turf out troublesome posters/trollsters and advertisers. Please do not use it for anything other than posts that clearly break the rules listed here. If a post or thread disappears, DO NOT start a thread asking why - PM a moderator or post up a polite request for information in the feedback forum (and nowhere else) instead.

As you can see, this thread is a direct violation of this rule. If you don't like the rules here then leave. If you continue to deliberately ignore the rules then you may well be banned.

End of discussion really.
 
toggle said:
you should read more of the threads you comment on. Then I'm sure you would unsderstand more.

I never comment on any thread without having read it first. Can you say the same?
 
Lock&Light said:
I never comment on any thread without having read it first. Can you say the same?

Well, considering that you would understand that comment had you read and understood a recent thread you commented on, you've just shot yourself in the foot there.
 
toggle said:
Well, considering that you would understand that comment had you read and understood a recent thread you commented on, you've just shot yourself in the foot there.

You expect me to remember every thread I ever comment on? You seem to me to be shooting yourself in the head, mate.
 
Lock&Light said:
You expect me to remember every thread I ever comment on? You seem to me to be shooting yourself in the head, mate.


well, vp and i remembered it.

just having too much fun watching you being a twat, again.
 
toggle said:
well, vp and i remembered it.

just having too much fun watching you being a twat, again.

Your unpleasantness is noted. Others will judge who is acting like a twat.
 
Lock&Light said:
Once again it would be nice to know what the fuck you're both on about?

toggle and I are sharing our amusement at just how pathetic you are.

There, NOW do you know "what the fuck we're on about", you pussilanimous pissant?
 
ViolentPanda said:
toggle and I are sharing our amusement at just how pathetic you are.

There, NOW do you know "what the fuck we're on about", you pussilanimous pissant?

You demean yourself, VP.
 
Badger Kitten said:
So I went along with another survivor from my train who'd also been getting mad messages on her blog, to see them, and David Shayler in action. After getting the PM, I called her and we jumped in a cab, eager to see who these loons were who'd been discussing us for months and leaving comments on my blog and in some cases, vaguely threeatening emails.
Pass 'em on to the old bill. You'd do the same if it were ordinary religious nutters bothering you rather than these cultists.
There were about 20 or fewer members of the British 9/11 Truth Movement, taking up about a third of an upstairs room at a pub. They were much older than I'd suspected, most of them in their late thirties or forties or fifties, mostly white, mostly middle class. Very sincere, clearly '' eccentric'', but it was as if I'd walked into some wierd church sect. When I mentioned to one that I wasn't convinced of the ''no suicide bombs/all a psy-ops false flag theory'' ( without saying who I was) he looked at me as if I had just spat in church, like an Fundementalist Evangelical being told Jesus was gay. He stalked off looking disgusted.
It is an article of faith with them, I now see, all this counter-official-rumour-conpiracy stuff. An inverted world view, through the looking glass.
I think "article of faith" is about right, and the fact that they perceive their beliefs to be "anti-establishment" is merely the icing on a very pathetic cake.
So this odd meeting reassured me that they were harmless eccentrics. But then the Charles Clarke row with my dad about no 7/7 Public Enquiry meant my dad's name was in the press. Cue letters and calls to Dad, about me and 7/7 from conspuiracy theorists... (Dad's name is in the directory.)

It's completely mad, that's what it is. I've tried to engage with them. I 've tried to ask them why they come on my blog and try to convert me, argue with me, have huge discussions about me, I've tried to defend myself, I've got angry, laughed at them, ignored them. In a way it is fascinating: they are so obsessed with an event that is still very much on my mind, but they weren't there and they have such odd ideas about it all and they go on and on about it. But it is also annoying, and upsetting, and when it comes to vague threats and personal abuse, distressing. I hoped that by seeing me they'd realise I wasn't team of M15 agents and leave me alone. But it's made them worse than ever. :rolleyes:

At least here they get roundly mocked. I'm not going to even bother defending myself against them any more and I have put comment moderator on my blog so they can't post. I don't read emails from them. I've been signed off work for a month so I don't know if they have been bothering my work number but fuck it, life is too short to worry about them anymore. I guess they'll piss off eventually, I know they are keen to get traffic and be talked about and that is why they come after anyone blogging about July 7.

It was a beautiful sunny day today. I'm having a beer, and I've got my chores done, and I'm thinking, life is too short to waste with fruitbats arguing about lunacy. Fuck 'em. Seeing them face to face was wierdly reassuring after allk the aggro, seeing them being expertly deflated over here on u75 cheers me up no end.

*burp*

Bollocks to it.

Bin.

Everyone must be completely :confused: by now
Thing is, I don't think they will leave you alone unless you do something harsh (like passing any threats on to the police) because you're a threat to their belief system, your rationality undermines their faith, your existence as an individual person rather than a collective MI5 personality shows their "religion" up as the rather tawdry trainspotterism that it really is.
 
Lock&Light said:
I think you're wrong about that, but, what matter?

Such vitriol as you allow to gush out can only serve to demean.


so do you have any comment about the op or bk's experiences with them?
 
Lock&Light said:
I think you're wrong about that, but, what matter?
You often think that others are wrong. Facts usually prove otherwise.
Such vitriol as you allow to gush out can only serve to demean.

Vitriol?

Describing you as a pussilanimous pissant is a reasonably accurate summation if one is taking your unedifying contributions to this board as a measure, and not vitriolic in the least.
 
ViolentPanda said:
Describing you as a pussilanimous pissant is a reasonably accurate summation if one is taking your unedifying contributions to this board as a measure, and not vitriolic in the least.

Pomposity demeans you as well.
 
toggle said:
so do you have any comment about the op or bk's experiences with them?

How often does that happen, one in ten posts, one in twenty?

L&L's usual modus operandi isn't to comment on thead, but rather to comment on contributions, which when you think about it is more than a little ironic; he who contributes little commenting on the (perceived) failings of the contributions of others.

But hey, why am I telling you this? You already know it! :D
 
toggle said:
so do you intend to make any comment about the topic?

I've already pointed out that this thread is one-sided. It's topic needs no extra illumination from me. The original posting on the other thread by the OP has been more than sufficiently torn to pieces by others.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
This reminds me: could I beg that the binned thread "Conspiralons" be shifted back to here and locked, rather than eventually deleted? I ask because (if I have the right thread) some of the observations by Bernie Gunther about the similarities between Conspiracy Theory and religious behaviour were genuinely insightful and I would not like to see them lost. Now there's a surprise.
Just noticed this. I appreciate your comment. A lot of what I was saying there was originally inspired by this article, which you might find interesting.

http://www.asc-cybernetics.org/2002/Lewin.htm
 
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