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ianrcrane

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To the Editor:

thank you for the welcome to Urban 75.

It is enlightening to note that whilst you are quite happy to allow serial posters to peddle their 'Evidence Free' assertions regarding the most significant attack on the British mainland since WW2, you elect to nail a thread opened with a review of Milan Rai's Book Launch in Yeovil which contains zero unsupported speculation.

Being aware of your legendary censorship of any thought that doesn't conform with your own, I took great care to ensure that all my observations, comments and questions (to Milan and as subsequently presented in the report) were appropriately referenced.

It would seem that the proprietor of Urban75 wishes to adopt the same cavalier attitude as Milan Rai when it comes to the application of one of the primary tenets of the British judicial system:

Milan appears to be extremely cavalier with the basic tenet of British justice that the case against any alleged perpetrator must, at the very least, produce evidence that they had the opportunity to be at the scene of the crime. The evidence that is presently in the public domain actually provides two of the four alleged bombers with alibis that would appear to 'prove' that they could not have been on their respective Circle Line trains! I refer. of course, to the allegations against Mohammed Khan (Edgware Road) and Shezad Tanweer (Aldgate).
Perhaps you would care to explain exactly which aspects of my earlier post failed to meet with your exacting standards of objectivity?

Ian R. Crane
 
Welcome to Urban, have a hobnob, don't lend Dub a fiver, don't sit down nor take off your jacket. Now fuck off. :D
 
I think that the part that you missed was asking permission prior to posting your information up.

Just a guess, though.

If you had wanted a faster response to your problem, you should have posted this in the feedback forum.

Welcome to U75, by the way.
 
spring-peeper said:
I think that the part that you missed was asking permission prior to posting your information up.

Just a guess, though.

If you had wanted a faster response to your problem, you should have posted this in the feedback forum.

Welcome to U75, by the way.

I think the real issue is that there are a lot of obsessive conspiracy theory types out there and if you let one post...you end up with a loonytoon conspiraloon nutter infested site no longer of any interest to impecibly sane types like me or Firky, or ninja. One Jazzz (who is a nice chap) is enough.
 
Truly enlightening!

The level of stimulating intellectual polemic around here, would appear to be about on the level of 'Eastenders' or 'Big Brother'. Would that be about right or is the vocabulary of Urban75 posters simply restricted to that of emerging adolescents?

Groucho, your contribution to the evolutionary process is awesome.

Is there any 'life' out there ...or have I stumbled across the cyber dead zone?
 
Groucho said:
I think the real issue is that there are a lot of obsessive conspiracy theory types out there and if you let one post...you end up with a loonytoon conspiraloon nutter infested site no longer of any interest to impecibly sane types like me or Firky, or ninja. One Jazzz (who is a nice chap) is enough.

We have more than one conspiraloon, there's always room for more imo.

I like this part
Being aware of your legendary censorship of any thought that doesn't conform with your own, I took great care to ensure that all my observations, comments and questions (to Milan and as subsequently presented in the report) were appropriately referenced.

Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to be posting on something legendary.

:cool:
 
ianrcrane said:
The level of stimulating intellectual polemic around here, would appear to be about on the level of 'Eastenders' or 'Big Brother'. Would that be about right or is the vocabulary of Urban75 posters simply restricted to that of emerging adolescents?

Groucho, your contribution to the evolutionary process is awesome.

Is there any 'life' out there ...or have I stumbled across the cyber dead zone?
What a flirt :D
 
Hmm.


That wasn't a review of the book, you tosser, that was a conspiraloon nit-pick of two digits. You've not bothered to read this bit on this site where someone took to trouble to go with a stopwatch and disprove the conspiraloon claim. It wasn't me - I'd already decided that the existence of a company called Midland Main Line made the argument irrelevant.

Yess... I think this does merit the Ultimate Bin Graphic:

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ianrcrane said:
The level of stimulating intellectual polemic around here, would appear to be about on the level of 'Eastenders' or 'Big Brother'. Would that be about right or is the vocabulary of Urban75 posters simply restricted to that of emerging adolescents?

Groucho, your contribution to the evolutionary process is awesome.

Is there any 'life' out there ...or have I stumbled across the cyber dead zone?


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:D
 
I may not be as au fait with the CTs here as I might be, but there's no CT in th OP. Can we await some evidence before convicting please.
Anything we all agree is shite should be deleted.
 
This is a fast moving thread. My last post was referring to about 4 posts before it.. Anyway, I'll stick up for Groucho. I think (apols if wrong) he's an SWP apologist, but he argued his case. It's weird because people on this site seem to be fanatical against SWP posters. It's sadly lacking in people willing to take their arguments apart - like a few other boards I frequent.
In any case, Groucho is ok. I look forward to some rows with him.
 
Lynseybabe said:
Can we await some evidence before convicting please.

The OP is a complaint about a conspiraloon rant being closed for posting (and then deleted? I can't see it binned).

Trust me, I am au fait with these loons and it was no more than a conspiraloon rant.
 
Lynseybabe said:
In any case, Groucho is ok. I look forward to some rows with him.
We like groucho :)

I think you know how harsh - and yet fair - the scales of U75 justice can be. We're quick to judge but quick to rescind :)

I'm thinking you're going to be alright whereas this bloke is a definitely a tosser
 
And your source is?

Hi Laptop,

I see that you passed the restricted vocabulary test, which would appear to be mandatory for participation on this forum, with flying colours!

Laptop writes:
I'd already decided that the existence of a company called Midland Main Line made the argument irrelevant.
Unreferenced and Unsourced, ... surely your comment meets with the Editors criteria of originating from a conspiraloon?

If I agree to restrict any posting to observations that are appropriately referenced and sourced, will you agree to do the same?

... or does the mandatory restriction of vocabulary also prevent the basic tenets of research being applied?
 
trashpony said:
We like groucho :)

I think you know how harsh - and yet fair - the scales of U75 justice can be. We're quick to judge but quick to rescind :)

I'm thinking you're going to be alright whereas this bloke is a definitely a tosser

:D Feels all warm inside :D

And yes, the OP was a complaint that a conspiracy theory thread already once discredited on these boards was binned. Lynseybabe seems a good' un :D
 
Ian, your Yeovil/Milan thread was ridiculous and bizarre. It was designed in such a way as to show the speaker as being a conspiracy theorist, and assumed the reader was on your side from the beginning. How are you meant to convince people of your beliefs/ideas by posting up such curious gibberish?
 
Have we found out yet whether anyone's recruiting all these fruitloops?

This one's a source of particularly fructiferous closed-knot topologies. And what better source could I quote than this?

the vast majority of people in western society are already resigned, consciously or otherwise, to the fact that they will participate in perpetuating the illusion of the material world. Of course it is not perceived with any negativity; indeed, it is part of the socio-programming that has taken place since birth... Those that do ask the question or simply elect not to participate in the material illusion are considered to be just a ‘little strange’.

www. diagnosis2012.co.uk/ian.htm

You don't say!

Of course I am "locked into restricted 3rd density awareness". Please do not explain. If you did, I'd have to start using big words like "disordered thought" and "delusional".



Byee...
 
Tenets of Research

To the Editor:

You wrote:
no doubt he'll be along shortly with tons of solid credible evidence to support his alternative theory about what really happened.
I wrote:
If I agree to restrict any posting to observations that are appropriately referenced and sourced, will you agree to do the same?
Where's the problem?
 
Sourced & Referenced

Hi Laptop,

the vast majority of people in western society are already resigned, consciously or otherwise, to the fact that they will participate in perpetuating the illusion of the material world. Of course it is not perceived with any negativity; indeed, it is part of the socio-programming that has taken place since birth... Those that do ask the question or simply elect not to participate in the material illusion are considered to be just a ‘little strange’.

www. diagnosis2012.co.uk/ian.htm
very well done ... I am impressed. Referenced and Sourced ...excellent!
This is solid research.

Now, about that Midland Main Line comment ...reference & source?
 
Am I being asked by some fruitloop to reference and source the existence of Midland Mainline, a moderately well-known transportation company in the UK owned by the National Express Group?

Or am I being asked to provide them with an excuse to witter on for pages and pages about a tiny area of doubt; one rendered rather irrelevant by the existence of the above company and the swiftness of it services, and entirely irrelevant by actual empirical research carried out by a poster to these very fora? As if the fruitloop's capability to witter for pages about said entirely irrelevant and in any case thorougly discredited smidgen of doubt were in some sense "evidence" that those who were killed, maimed and traumatised in London last summer suffered at the hands of... oooh, let me guess, anti-Mayan lizards?

Oooh, let me guess.
 
Christ almighty, if there's one thing worse than a conspiraloon, it's a whinging conspiraloon.

Oh, and I remember that shit about the train times. I checked it out myself on thetrainline.com and guess what, there are lots of different potential methods.
 
laptop said:
Am I being asked by some fruitloop to reference and source the existence of Midland Mainline, a moderately well-known transportation company in the UK owned by the National Express Group?

:eek:

Surely not! Fruitloop would never ask you to do that - he's far too well-educated.

Ooooh - not that fruitloop - this ian chap - gotcha. :cool: Yeh - he's weird, isn't he? And a bit thick too.

Is it time to wear our special hats? Already? Bah - and it's only Friday :(
 
trashpony said:
Surely not! Fruitloop would never ask you to do that - he's far too well-educated.

Educated enough to know he was asking for trouble with that username...

trashpony said:
Is it time to wear our special hats? Already?

Sorry, yes. Here's a particularly hard-case example

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This man was seen at Kings Cross station on 7th July 2005. Several trains that day were mysterious late, some did not turn up at all. If you have any infomation on this man please call the loonwatch team on 0800 666 666.
 
ianrcrane said:
The level of stimulating intellectual polemic around here, would appear to be about on the level of 'Eastenders' or 'Big Brother'. Would that be about right or is the vocabulary of Urban75 posters simply restricted to that of emerging adolescents?

Groucho, your contribution to the evolutionary process is awesome.

Is there any 'life' out there ...or have I stumbled across the cyber dead zone?

I'll reply to this before i read the rest of the thread.

Unfortunately ian the (quality) level of debate on these politica forums is a fraction of what it used to be. It really is quite sad coz in my opinion this dumbing down of political comment has sent droves of decent posters into exile.

What does not help is that threads like the one you started over milan's book get no chance to develop. The editor has made his decision, a long time ago, and his political forums are the worse for it. Not that he will agree with me of course.

In fact what we see now is not much more than the debate of the posters, rather than what's in the posts. Furthermore, the topics of 911 and more recently 7/7, are in effect non-topics.

Just like in the mainstream media.

It's almost as if a D notice has been issued to urban75...
 
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