"Untouchables" Michael Gillard / Laurie Flynn

[detective-boy]

Anyone know where I can get a copy of this?

Sub-title "Dirty Cops, Bent Justice and Racism at Scotland Yard". Not available from Amazon or from a specialist book search site.

 

[Tonay]

Ask Waterstones to order in a copy for you, they do it for free don't they?

 

[Donna Ferentes]

If you just want to read it there's always the British Library.

 

[Dirty Martini]

WH Smith online have a copy

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/whs/Go.ASP?menu=Books&type=keyword&siteno=1&shop=26985&dh=10&DB=220,224&a=laurie%20flynn&t=untouchables&x=&isbn=&SEQ=price&tduid=2e818bb2aa1f6263575a655e5a07328e&affId=856077

Found it through this

http://www.usedbooksearch.co.uk

Useful site.

 

[Tonay]

Ah, so it was available on a specialist book site search.

Perhaps Detective-Boy should consider changing his name to Captain Zep.

 

[detective-boy]

WH Smith online have a copy

Thanks. I've given it a try (but having already ordered it on three different sites showing it as available, only for them to eventually give up, and having tried the local WH Smith (and Waterstones) to find them advising they can't get it, I'm not holding my breath!

ETA: Update (e-mail timed at 0251hrs 16Dec): "We have unfortunately received a report from our suppliers that the product listed below is no longer available, therefore we have to inform you that we are unable to fulfil your order. As a consequence of this we have had to cancel you order and no debit has been made against your payment card."

Anyone got any better ideas?

 

[DaveCinzano]

It's being reissued in April by Bloomsbury - £14.99 hardback, £6.99 eBook.

http://www.bloomsbury.com/Untouchables/Laurie-Flynn-Michael-Gillard/books/details/9781448209033

 

[mirandavj83]

There's a facebook and Twitter as well, website coming this week : )

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Untouchables-Book/347550985288926
Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/Untouchables_BK

Such an important book, please support it!!

 

[imposs1904]

is it that Laurie Flynn?

 

[mirandavj83]

Thanks. I've given it a try (but having already ordered it on three different sites showing it as available, only for them to eventually give up, and having tried the local WH Smith (and Waterstones) to find them advising they can't get it, I'm not holding my breath!

ETA: Update (e-mail timed at 0251hrs 16Dec): "We have unfortunately received a report from our suppliers that the product listed below is no longer available, therefore we have to inform you that we are unable to fulfil your order. As a consequence of this we have had to cancel you order and no debit has been made against your payment card."

Anyone got any better ideas?

Only six years later, but you can pre-order this on Amazon now for release on April 9th: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Untouchable...=A3TVV12T0I6NSM&qid=1331628922&sr=1-1-catcorr

There will be a print version on sale too but this isnt yet showing on Amazon - the above link is for the ebook and old copies of the hardback are being sold for a fortune. The new print copy will be £14.99.

Hope that helps : )

 

[imposs1904]

Better class of spam on the Books, tv and radio forum.

 

[mirandavj83]

Better class of spam on the Books, tv and radio forum.

Is this for me? If so I don't understand your syntax. Your profile pic is awesome, though, so it's hard to say mean things about you. Really not here to spam but I've worked my arse off to get this back in print so if people are asking about it and I can actually tell them straight...I'm doing the right thing. Peace.

 

[imposs1904]

Is this for me? If so I don't understand your syntax. Your profile pic is awesome, though, so it's hard to say mean things about you. Really not here to spam but I've worked my arse off to get this back in print so if people are asking about it and I can actually tell them straight...I'm doing the right thing. Peace.

I'm joking you soft sod.

 

[mirandavj83]

Better class of jokes on the Books, tv and radio forum

 

[DaveCinzano]

I like this (quaintly nonsensical but utterly comprehensible) from the Untouchables intro:

...we are glad to see that The Guardian editor has at least reunited his back with his bone over the recent crisis in Britain's most powerful police force. Questions, though, remain unanswered about the newspaper's own dealings with private investigators, including former MI6 officers.

Hakluyt? Bless you.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Miranda - finally got my copy, looking forward to wading through it!

Not, however, enjoying the lack of an index. Wagwan?

 

[Voley]

Oh gawd. I thought they'd let d-b back on there for a minute.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Read it last week. Definitely worth it, but the lack of an index really frustrates its use as a reference. I think I shall have to do my own index.

The style at times is a bit wannabe Sweeney scriptwriter, but the righteous ire throughout holds your attention. Leveson-watchers be aware that Hayman and Yates don't come out looking like credible or even that competent. Plus there's a whole new (old) collection of idiot filth to familiarise yourself with, like Chris Jarratt, Brian Moore, Roger Gaspar, Roy Clark etc.

Particularly scathing about the tame crime hacks of the CRA, and goes through the story of the CIB3 supergrasses (Geoff Brennan, Hector Harvey etc) step by step in a way that the Graeme McLagan book fudged (but then that makes a lot more sense now!)

 

[DaveCinzano]

Oh look, anti-corruption cops implicated in corruption:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/22/met-officers-nigerian-embezzler-conviction

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/22/metropolitan-police-anti-corruption-allegations

 

[Voley]

Oh gawd. I thought they'd let d-b back on there for a minute.

And again.

 

[DaveCinzano]

A couple of hours ago it was reported two ex-Met coppers were arrested today:

Two former Scotland Yard police officers have been arrested as part of an investigation into allegations that members of its anti-corruption unit were paid thousands of pounds in bribes.

The Metropolitan police said that the men, aged 53 and 58, were arrested during raids at a business address in central London. Both have been arrested on suspicion of bribery of a police officer and remain in custody.

The force's directorate of professional standards (DPS) has been investigating allegations that a firm of private detectives made the payments to police officers investigating a notorious Nigerian fraudster, James Ibori, in exchange for information.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/23/former-met-police-arrest-corruption-inquiry

Half an hour ago the tally was increased to a pair of former Plod and one serving!

A serving detective and two former Scotland Yard police officers have been arrested as part of an investigation into allegations that members of the force's anti-corruption unit were paid thousands of pounds in bribes.

The Metropolitan police said the 45-year-old male detective was arrested on suspicion of receiving payments for information at a residential address outside of London.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/23/three-arrested-met-police-corruption

Any advance on three filthy collars?

 

[DaveCinzano]

From the Telegraph yesterday:

Mike Schwarz of the law firm Bindmans told MPs he had evidence of "serious illegality" relating to the Metropolitan Police's proceeds of corruption unit.

He alleged that three officers, Det Insp Gary Walters, Det Con John McDonald and Det Con Peter Clarke, were "key players" in an arrangement with a private investigation firm, RISC Management Ltd.

Mr Schwarz claimed law firms used the private eyes to find out information such as the "interviewing strategy" that would be used on suspects. His personal experience came from the case of James Ibori, the former Nigerian state governor jailed for 13 years last month for fraud, he said.

He told the home affairs select committee he had seen invoices from RISC to the law firm Speechly Bircham of payments "presumably to police officers". He said the records showed "half a dozen payments totalling about £20,000 over eight or nine months".
A Met spokesman said the force was investigating an allegation of illegal payments. RISC denied making payments to police officers and Speechly Bircham said it was not aware of any payments.

The Beeb's Mark Easton also reported this yesterday:

...Mr Schwarz, representing Ibori's London lawyer who was jailed as part of the case, said: "The key culprits appear to be the key players who are the senior investigating officer, DI Gary Walters, and two of the key investigators who are DC John McDonald and DC (Peter) Clark."

Mr Schwarz told the committee there were records that "show about half a dozen payments totalling £20,000 over eight or nine months."
The allegations were originally made in an anonymous bundle of documents sent to former Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson and the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) last summer.

In October last year, the IPCC instructed the Metropolitan Police's Directorate of Professional Standards (DPS) to conduct an internal investigation.

The paperwork included what purported to be detailed invoices and expense ledgers from Risc Management Ltd, headed at the time by two former Scotland Yard detectives, Keith Hunter and Cliff Knuckey...

Sky News' Martin Brunt says Met confirms one of those arrested today is ex-DS Keith Hunter, now CEO of RISC.

 

[DaveCinzano]

@SkyNewsBreak:

Third former Scotland Yard detective has been arrested on suspicion of bribing a serving detective.

 

[DaveCinzano]

There was an interesting blog post yesterday which asks whether there might turn out to be connections between this anti-cop corruption investigation, and the seemingly separate News Of The World/NewsInt hacking conspiracy.

During James Murdoch’s November 2011 appearance at the Culture, Media and Sports Committee Tom Watson asked James Murdoch if he was aware of the activities of 3 private investigators that included Alex Leighton. James Murdoch said he was unaware of the detectives, but was happy to come back to Tom Watson with details, although it seems unclear if he ever did.

Now Alex Leighton used to work for a security company called Mayfayre Security Services Ltd, working as Company Director from 24 August 1996 onwards.
According to records the same company also employed a Keith Hunter as Managing Director from 21 February 1995 to 1 January 1996, which turns out to be the same Keith Hunter arrested today in relation to the police corruption scandal.

Mayfayre another one to stick on the list, then.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Oh, and it appears that Hunter lives but half a mile away as the crow flies from PC Simon Harwood, currently awaiting trial for the manslaughter of Ian Tomlinson. Must be something in the water at Carshalton.

 

[agricola]

Bumped to mention that there is a long article in the latest Eye (#1320) regarding the Ibori case, which doesnt mention the above allegations of corruption but which does detail the work of the anti-corruption officers on that investigation, and perhaps could be read as suggesting why such allegations may have been made.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Just noticed that the Kindle version of Untouchables is now only 99p.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007ILNY34/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_qdXcrb1CXQN4Q

 

[DaveCinzano]

...And so we come full circle - from bent cops and hooky private eyes and alleged involvement in the killings of Daniel Morgan and Stephen Lawrence, to #hacking, to undercover police spies, and back to bent cops again.

The Ellison Review is in, and John Davidson does not a clean bill of health get. Nor do most of the supposedly clean CIB types who then flew on to bigger and better things. Nor does aww-he-seems-like-a-nice-guy John Grieve (friend of Bob Lambert).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26466867

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/stephen-lawrence-independent-review

 

[DaveCinzano]

Of interest - Michael Gillard on the collapse of the recent trial of a copper up on prostitution charges who threatened to blow the whistle of Flying Squad graft...

THE 'AUTISTIC DETECTIVE'

Police, Prostitutes, Corruption and the Watchdog that didn't Bark.

theupsetterstrikes.substack.com

 

[TopCat]

Of interest - Michael Gillard on the collapse of the recent trial of a copper up on prostitution charges who threatened to blow the whistle of Flying Squad graft...

https://theupsetterstrikes.substack.com/p/the-autistic-detective

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