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Well since we're all here, how about a thread for producers and beatmakers, for all those amateur PC/Mac/Linux/Atari/Amiga/Commodore 64 fans, some emergency helpline "can someone find me a Renegade Soundwave snare" or "how the bejaysus do I operate this shite sampler" etc.

I got a huge box of archive exam papers relating to this stuff, it covers GCSE level to super-top level advice on all manner of production and sweetening techniques.... I think it's all going to waste sitting around doing the torrents...

It's just a series of notes about mixing techniques and stuff that I either stole or made.

Simple microphone techniques and and the music stuff, but going right through the whole gamut of cabling and earthing, safety info, recording, sweetening and mastering and everything else in-between.

Pretty boring to the non-muso/producer. Fair Play.

It's all pretty relevant to anyone doing any of this stuff though, if you're lucky enough to find yourself looking up the cabled skirt of a Logic sequencer, or need to urgently consult a filechanger, or even participate in a live capture, or make the most of a basic DJ mixer, it would be a good thing to organise...

So I guess really I'm asking permission of the mods and the chief of staff to be able to post up reams and reams of info, with a view to edit them down once I've had the scrutiny and the assistance of the U75 resident experts.

I'm thinking I could of course set a website up myself, but it would take years to generate the search-traffic, and it's such a niche market that lots of folk here seem to know a lot about the mixing/production stuff, and have tons of random samples to hand...

Totally a not for profit exercise, though. I get to keep anything I wrote and y'all can copy/paste to your hearts content, but it's still mine to share for free.
Don't pretend you wrote it yourself, unless you actually did, or I will hunt you to the grave. ;)

Think of it as an educational resource. Hopefully, and potentially.

Lots and lots of people need to know how this stuff actually works, in fact in my recent experience they're desperate to know how it works, because nobody can realistically afford or want to pay a muppet like me to sit there with them for 16 hours showing them how it works all night long ... so...

I figured I'd just bung a load of stuff up on this thread, and if anyone thinks it's wrong, or needs a specific clarification, then it becomes a quick reference guide with quick-reply.

It means I can both cut/paste and it also means I get to discover the answers to burning questions regarding the innards of obscure Korg power supplies, or how to hotwire and replace a Roland VS drive.

Because I doubt anyone here could tell me the accurate regulated DC current supply input for the X5DR, and it would be nice if what they used to call a "webring" still existed for all this boring yet vital techie stuff. I miss it. :(

So whaddya think mods and modettes? Is it a cautious go?
 
go for it, but you'll end up bumping against the 7-day edit limit. maybe better to do a littel subediting first before posting?

this is exactly the sort of thing that a wiki would be good for. vbulletin is so close to being able to do that inhouse - with edit histories etc. but it's not quite there yet without plugins (which we've had issues with on the test server). maybe in 3.9 (although 4.0 is on the way apparently)
 
go for it, but you'll end up bumping against the 7-day edit limit. maybe better to do a littel subediting first before posting?

this is exactly the sort of thing that a wiki would be good for. vbulletin is so close to being able to do that inhouse - with edit histories etc. but it's not quite there yet without plugins (which we've had issues with on the test server). maybe in 3.9 (although 4.0 is on the way apparently)

That's all true. I don't want to waste time slinging it all here if it just slides off the Google-able radar, like good rich manure from an over-polished shovel.

It's the sort of thing I could just sling up online with no second thoughts, but I feel if it's to be of value, then to have it stand the scrutiny and the relevance to todays applications (bear in mind some of this is MIDI notes from '91, still relevant but still a dying technology) then it needs to be re-written for the soft-synth generation.

It definitely needs to be adaptable.

But certainly the basic rules would apply in live work, speaker systems and mixing consoles haven't changed much in 20 years really, apart from a few add-ons the principle is the same.

I just want a free platform to test ideas and concepts with lots of people who know their stuff, and I think it fits the ethos of urban75 to provide such a resource for free.

If it saves one poor sucker from going to a dead end college for 2 years then it's all good - save your money and buy the gear yourself!!
 
In which case, thrash it all out here, then get together with ed and format it for the static site. then link to it in the the OP of this thread (and any others you make)
 
If you want suggestions of mixes. I've always wanted to hear a good mix of 'Propeller Heads - Take California' with 'Leftfield - Phat Planet'
 
If you want suggestions of mixes. I've always wanted to hear a good mix of 'Propeller Heads - Take California' with 'Leftfield - Phat Planet'

Ummm, no, that wasn't the premise... but fuck it... I'm liking the sounds of that anyway, a dirty groove if ever there was one.

Keep this frequency clear!
 
In which case, thrash it all out here, then get together with ed and format it for the static site. then link to it in the the OP of this thread (and any others you make)

I guess we'll see how it goes. There's so much stuff, it's probably best to up the basics and go from there when relevant.

I dunno... I'm good at remembering but I'm no schoolteacher!!

See what the boss says, I guess. Don't want to plonk a load of text here without proper context. Needs a little work. Cheers Crispy though, nice one. ;)
 
Ummm, no, that wasn't the premise... but fuck it... I'm liking the sounds of that anyway, a dirty groove if ever there was one.

Keep this frequency clear!
I've tried and failed many times, if you can find the right blend do us a favour and post it.
 
I've tried and failed many times, if you can find the right blend do us a favour and post it.

Seriously??

Then make a thread in the mm&lm forum!

Throw down the gauntlet!

(I'll win, naturally, but at least make it fair to others!!)

This thread was more about putting up instruction manuals and deep tech advice for mixing and mastering, module work and troubleshooting... nerd stuff....

But I know both those tunes and they would go well together, thinking about it, so you should start a thread about a remix challenge.

There are tunes I've yet to hear mixed but can't be arsed - there's bound to be some mad professor here with the skills to do it, hence my OP...

Fuck it... I'm going to have to do it myself now, aren't I?

:eek: ;)
 
I know where you're coming from pk, I for one would be very interested in reading some theory documentation...

I'm doing a part time music tech course atm, like you mentioned earlier - if it saves someone being stuck in a deadend college....

looking forward to reading it... :)
 
I know where you're coming from pk, I for one would be very interested in reading some theory documentation...

I'm doing a part time music tech course atm, like you mentioned earlier - if it saves someone being stuck in a deadend college....

looking forward to reading it... :)

Right! That's it! Let's do it!

Anything you can provide too Jonti, either by email or by upping it all somewhere...

Maybe this wiki thing would be a better central resource...

Lots to think about. Could be great to have an interactive database hereabouts though, given the amount of people in diverse work all over the place... etc.

Probably end up working out a seriously cool and copyright-free solution and then just press ahead regardless, I reckon. :)
 
hahaha excited much? :D

I can't honestly say I've got a great deal to give - what I do know is all in my head, working from Octamed on Amigas through to Reason and Cubase nowadays....
I'm desperate to get hold of some decent theory and put it into practice, there's so many little tips and tricks to be learnt from experience - I reckon this guide would be a good place to share all that knowledge...

don't get me confused with jonti dude ;)
 
good idea for a thread - i know NOTHING proper about mixdown except what i have learned on the job...

also i guess you mean electronic stuff PK? alls i know is band type stuff.

Bees is our man for this. surely?

strangely we have been trying to mix our country album this eve. it went ok, got one track done then got pissed.

boost kick drum at about 30hz

boost bass guitar at about 50hz

use SSL simulator on EVERYTHING

Nuemann 147 came out better than U87 for vox for some reason???

bump waveforms to avoid phasing if you are using multiple mics.

aaargh bed
 
hahaha excited much? :D

I can't honestly say I've got a great deal to give - what I do know is all in my head, working from Octamed on Amigas through to Reason and Cubase nowadays....
I'm desperate to get hold of some decent theory and put it into practice, there's so many little tips and tricks to be learnt from experience - I reckon this guide would be a good place to share all that knowledge...

don't get me confused with jonti dude ;)

Jonti, Jontz, all the same to me mate.

I'm all ears.

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Now we're talking!

Scatter the horses!!

good idea for a thread - i know NOTHING proper about mixdown except what i have learned on the job...

also i guess you mean electronic stuff PK? alls i know is band type stuff.

Bees is our man for this. surely?

strangely we have been trying to mix our country album this eve. it went ok, got one track done then got pissed.

boost kick drum at about 30hz

boost bass guitar at about 50hz

use SSL simulator on EVERYTHING

Nuemann 147 came out better than U87 for vox for some reason???

bump waveforms to avoid phasing if you are using multiple mics.

aaargh bed
 
aCtaully ignore those Hz measurements - i think they are wrong. but basically you want the kick in the lows and highs, and the bass inthe low mids.

:ninja:
 
Lets put it to a vote! (when we get a forum to discuss this crap in detail!)
 
Yep Wiki. Could do it over at Wikispaces for a while. Link to it from here. Then bring back any static documents to post here p'raps.
 
Yep Wiki. Could do it over at Wikispaces for a while. Link to it from here. Then bring back any static documents to post here p'raps.

Yeah, liking this.

It's the only way really innit?
 
you can use my wiki on my website if you want, it's just sat their with hardly anything on it at the mo

just say the word and i'll switch it back on again...
 
Seriously??

Then make a thread in the mm&lm forum!

Throw down the gauntlet!

(I'll win, naturally, but at least make it fair to others!!)

This thread was more about putting up instruction manuals and deep tech advice for mixing and mastering, module work and troubleshooting... nerd stuff....

But I know both those tunes and they would go well together, thinking about it, so you should start a thread about a remix challenge.

There are tunes I've yet to hear mixed but can't be arsed - there's bound to be some mad professor here with the skills to do it, hence my OP...

Fuck it... I'm going to have to do it myself now, aren't I?

:eek: ;)

Seriously - I knew this wasn't what you meant but I would be interested in both threads. If we are going to do a blends thread though, here's a sloppy effort of mine from a couple of months ago (excuse the boot/mashup reference was looking for the appropriate term):

Track A: "Showrocker" by Laidback Luke
Track B: "Maneater" by Nelly Furtado



Just wanted to show you could knock something together and render it in under ten minutes on Ableton if you'd already warped the tracks.

Any technical hints on mixing and finishing tracks though would also be interesting.
 
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