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gosub said:
We have less than 200 days to sort out what our future relationship with our largest trading partners will look like post 2020. That is our most immediate need. Party political naval gazing and potential removal of those with relevant experience comes a poor second
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Who are these people with "relevant experience" that might be "politically removed'? And what does this "relevant experience" consist of?
 
Whagwan said:
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That wasn't a labrador mate.
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If Johnson was fucking his wife, Cole would be giving her cunnilingus before Johnson's cum had started dribbling out, the Tory maggot.
 
Streathamite said:
Labour aren't really in chaos. Beyond this latest epic bout of dummy spitting by the Blairites in the PLP, they are very much together
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I'd like to believe you. BUT Israel is an emotive subject. gnawing discomfort and a need for technical solutions beyond the scope beyond the scope of a media lens built round simplistic arguments and polarising controversy sells...that smothers nuance. And there are no shortage of foreign actors with interested positions ready to pour petrol on the situation.....feels a bit fractal symmetry though stuff relating to EU is more immediate
 
Streathamite said:
Labour aren't really in chaos. Beyond this latest epic bout of dummy spitting by the Blairites in the PLP, they are very much together
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No they're not, before the last GE they were at each others throats big time, When the expected wipeout failed to occur a lot of those to the right and centre of the party were even more shocked than Rupert Murdoch.
Since like all politicians their number one priority is their own survival, they rallied behind a leader who had turned out to be nowhere near as unpopular as they expected.
They are much better at putting on a show of unity that the Tories but there are loads of conflicts, disagreements and rivalries just waiting for the chance to come to the fore again.
 
MickiQ said:
No they're not, before the last GE they were at each others throats big time, When the expected wipeout failed to occur a lot of those to the right and centre of the party were even more shocked than Rupert Murdoch.
Since like all politicians their number one priority is their own survival, they rallied behind a leader who had turned out to be nowhere near as unpopular as they expected.
They are much better at putting on a show of unity that the Tories but there are loads of conflicts, disagreements and rivalries just waiting for the chance to come to the fore again.
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I think tbh we are talking a bit at cross purposes. What you say is kinda true of the PLP, and them alone (and possibly some old guard councillors).

Most of the PLP opposition to Corbyn split between those who quite liked his policy platform but thought it unelectable - so who are since reconciled - and the core Blairites who simply won't ever accept how things have changed, totally and irrevocably. That latter are the cause of just about all the strife.
But what I was really referring to was the mass membership, the grassroots,
and I should have made that a lot clearer.
From all I have seen, there is little or no internal warfare there, just an impressive amount of unity of purpose, and determination
 
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