Tory Death Spiral

[agricola]

“We must not fall into the trap of shutting down the debate on difficult issues," the source added.

"We have to call it out. If we fail to speak up for liberal values then we are simply yielding ground to reactionaries and extremists."

this is about freedom of our values and the centuries of free speech apparently.

He is nasty fucking scum if we were not aware of this already. Dangerous game he plays.

Not to have a go but this notion of a dangerous game "he" plays is well wide of the mark; this is a game that the party has played for at least four or five years and as part of a deliberate electoral strategy. All Boris is doing is putting himself at its head, as he tries to do with every issue.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Not to have a go but this notion of a dangerous game "he" plays is well wide of the mark; this is a game that the party has played for at least four or five years and as part of a deliberate electoral strategy. All Boris is doing is putting himself at its head, as he tries to do with every issue.

Completely agree but for longer than that, for decades actually. They've always tried to push for more and more trade/border liberalisation while using racism and nationalism to garner electoral support - what's happening in the Tory party now is the logical conclusion of this contradictory message.

 

[Poi E]

I don't think woeful constitutional and administrative structures are particularly to blame (thank?) for the Tories paralyisis in government. Could be right, but I think it's more about the political divisions in their party and their rapidly shrinking social base.

Cmon, you've got Yorkshire, an ancient county with distinct cultures and a diverse economy and it's got fuck all regional powers. There's states in the US with much less and having federal status. The UK is fucked as an entity.

 

[Pickman's model]

Cmon, you've got Yorkshire, an ancient county with distinct cultures and a diverse economy and it's got fuck all regional powers. There's states in the US with much less and having federal status. The UK is fucked as an entity.

All states are fucked as entities and will all go the same way the principality of antioch, the duchy of auschwitz and the septinsular republic went, into the cupboard of the yesterdays

 

[ska invita]

Rather than this latest jape heralding the death of the tory filth, it will likely attract more support for marginalised conservative detritus like Johnson

Depressing poll. They don't call it populism for nothing.
Sky Data poll: Comparing women who wear burkas to bank robbers 'not racist'
Not sure on their workings but still...

Though the age difference mentioned at the end is interesting to note

 

[Pickman's model]

if only london was his former stomping ground.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Cmon, you've got Yorkshire, an ancient county with distinct cultures and a diverse economy and it's got fuck all regional powers. There's states in the US with much less and having federal status. The UK is fucked as an entity.

I'm not sure what to make of this other than you're in favour of federalism? I live in Yorkshire, I don't want any of this Yorkshire devolution bullshit, it's just cover to institutionalise austerity and create safe haven posts for Blairites.

 

[Poi E]

Devolve taxation and social policy. It'll never happen, because generations have taken their orders from London.

 

[agricola]

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if only london was his former stomping ground.

Please don't send him back to Clywd South, the meibion are on holiday and will be until mid-September.

 

[Raheem]

Depressing poll. They don't call it populism for nothing.
Sky Data poll: Comparing women who wear burkas to bank robbers 'not racist'
Not sure on their workings but still...

Though the age difference mentioned at the end is interesting to note

It's a survey of Sky customers who are signed up to be part of a polling group. So, not necessarily representative.

That said, not sure he could have picked a better target.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Or, you could post that...^ I doubt you'll see any dissenters to your view of BoJo the Clown running for PM...

I can image BoJo as PM, it's about the same as I can imaging vomiting - not nice and you don't want it to happen.

As for our intrepid Labour leader, my view is unlikely to change; I see him very much as a new Micheal Foot, just without the donkey jacket.
The other thing - he looks like the sort of man you'd take special note of if he was within 50 yards of a school, something that hardly helps his electability.
When it comes down to it, my opinion is the Tories are helping Labour as much as they can because they're a dispicable bunch of pointless pilliocks, but Mr C isn't doing Labour any good at all.

 

[Poi E]

The other thing - he looks like the sort of man you'd take special note of if he was within 50 yards of a school, something that hardly helps his electability.

Ageing men without ties are paedos, huh? Simply concurs with the snide and scurrilous attacks against him.

 

[Pickman's model]

I can image BoJo as PM, it's about the same as I can imaging vomiting - not nice and you don't want it to happen.

As for our intrepid Labour leader, my view is unlikely to change; I see him very much as a new Micheal Foot, just without the donkey jacket.
The other thing - he looks like the sort of man you'd take special note of if he was within 50 yards of a school, something that hardly helps his electability.
When it comes down to it, my opinion is the Tories are helping Labour as much as they can because they're a dispicable bunch of pointless pilliocks, but Mr C isn't doing Labour any good at all.

I've never seen mr C say anything about labour

 

[SpineyNorman]

I can image BoJo as PM, it's about the same as I can imaging vomiting - not nice and you don't want it to happen.

As for our intrepid Labour leader, my view is unlikely to change; I see him very much as a new Micheal Foot, just without the donkey jacket.
The other thing - he looks like the sort of man you'd take special note of if he was within 50 yards of a school, something that hardly helps his electability.
When it comes down to it, my opinion is the Tories are helping Labour as much as they can because they're a dispicable bunch of pointless pilliocks, but Mr C isn't doing Labour any good at all.

You daft twat.

 

[DotCommunist]

not even thick right wing media heads are still rolling out the michael foot comparisons. And of course, even they can't call Corbyn a peado. Not because morals, but because laws

 

[Nylock]

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The other thing - he looks like the sort of man you'd take special note of if he was within 50 yards of a school, something that hardly helps his electability.
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Have a word with yourself

 

[existentialist]

not even thick right wing media heads are still rolling out the michael foot comparisons. And of course, even they can't call Corbyn a peado. Not because morals, but because laws

And because shooting in the foot.

 

[agricola]

And because shooting in the foot.

... and because someone might then ask about the past of some in the anti-Corbyn faction (especially Hodge).

 

[Don Troooomp]

not even thick right wing media heads are still rolling out the michael foot comparisons. And of course, even they can't call Corbyn a peado. Not because morals, but because laws

I didn't say he was a nonce, just he looks like one. As for Foot, the coat and lack of a haircut are different but they are about as electable as each other..

 

[Don Troooomp]

You daft twat.

Thanks, but that doesn't assist in anybway to making me think C will help get a proper government backminto power.
May is absolute crap but even that useless idiot looks better than Labour's abortion of a leader.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Have a word with yourself

Just did, harsh ones, but I still think he's a useless fucker that's doing a great job for the Tories.

 

[existentialist]

Just did, harsh ones, but I still think he's a useless fucker that's doing a great job for the Tories.

Well, he might be doing a better job for the Tories than they are doing for themselves, but that would be almost impossible not to do...

 

[Artaxerxes]

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if only london was his former stomping ground.

He's shat all over the place on his flying visits to the place.

 

[DotCommunist]

I didn't say he was a nonce, just he looks like one. As for Foot, the coat and lack of a haircut are different but they are about as electable as each other..

I didn't say you were thick as shit, I just implied it heavily. Foot lost 3 million labour votes, corbyn gained a few million. Foots manifesto is still remembered as the 'longest suicide note in history', corbyns labour party manifesto was so popular the conservatives were left without a majority. I could go on, but I suspect you of being on a windup.

 

[existentialist]

I didn't say he was a nonce, just he looks like one. As for Foot, the coat and lack of a haircut are different but they are about as electable as each other..

Actually, that's even worse. You were prepared to create, at the very least, the inference that he is a child sex abuser without actually having the guts to come out and say it.

Child sex abusers don't have a "look". Some of them will look just like you.

 

[SpackleFrog]

May is absolute crap but even that useless idiot looks better than Labour's abortion of a leader.

Know who's side you're on then don't we? Fuck off back under your rock, prick.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Well, he might be doing a better job for the Tories than they are doing for themselves, but that would be almost impossible not to do...

The Tories are a pretty shit lot so it should be really easy for Corbyn to make them look stupid, especially May, but he's not doing much of a job of it.

 

[SpackleFrog]

The Tories are a pretty shit lot so it should be really easy for Corbyn to make them look stupid, especially May, but he's not doing much of a job of it.

probably doesn't help he's responding to accusations of being a terrorist, a paedo and an anti semite from vile individuals like yourself 24/7 does it?

 

[Don Troooomp]

Foot lost 3 million labour votes, corbyn gained a few million

I think the Tories gained Labour a few million extra votes, not Corbyn.
What can I say, I just don't like him. Honest opinion, not a wind up.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I think the Tories gained Labour a few million extra votes, not Corbyn.
What can I say, I just don't like him. Honest opinion, not a wind up.

Well, then you're honestly fucking thick. Do you honestly think the likes Cooper, Hodge or Kendall would have been able to get that result? What can I say, I just don't like you.