Tony Martin Interview

[kenny g]

For some reason just came across this interview with Tony Martin. Has only got around a 1000 views and probably deserves a wider audience.

There is a report on a visit to the house here:

Report - - Bleak House And Farm Tony Martin Shot Burglar Dead At (Emneth Hungate Norfolk April/November 2018) | Residential Sites

 

[cyril_smear]

yeah, I saw it when it was aired. He pretty much admitted he deliberately shot Barras in the interview.

 

[kenny g]

yeah, I saw it when it was aired. He pretty much admitted he deliberately shot Barras in the interview.

Is this from the TV program? Completely missed it. Having watched the whole clip I agree it would be pretty difficult to not find him guilty if you were on the Jury.

Didn't know he was a nephew of an NF founder.

Andrew Fountaine - Wikipedia

 

[Badgers]

So to sum up...

The burglars were cunts, Martin is a cunt and the law is a cunt?

 

[cyril_smear]

Is this from the TV program? Completely missed it. Having watched the whole clip I agree it would be pretty difficult to not find him guilty if you were on the Jury.

Didn't know he was a nephew of an NF founder.

Andrew Fountaine - Wikipedia

I've not even looked at that link but all I will say is that it's only a wikipedia article.

 

[Badgers]

I have uncles and cousins who share far right material on Facebook. They are not people I have any dealings with and have no bearing on my actions.

That is not to say that Martin is a good/bad person or his actions were right or wrong. Just that an uncle is not a factor.

 

[butchersapron]

He was close to the BNP himself. A regular at events

 

[Badgers]

He was close to the BNP himself. A regular at events

Thanks for clarification

 

[cyril_smear]

He was close to the BNP himself. A regular at events

and you can qualify that with...

 

[kenny g]

I have uncles and cousins who share far right material on Facebook. They are not people I have any dealings with and have no bearing on my actions.

That is not to say that Martin is a good/bad person or his actions were right or wrong. Just that an uncle is not a factor.

Looks at own uncles - has to agree.

 

[butchersapron]

and you can qualify that with...

Qualify it with? You mean back it up? Of course i can. You, of course could just type his name into google with BNP.

Tony Martin, the Norfolk farmer jailed for shooting dead a gypsy burglar, has become a supporter of the British National Party, urging people to vote for the far-Right racist movement that wants legal immigrants "voluntarily repatriated".

Martin has admitted attending a meeting of the BNP in the past two weeks and says that he has recently been to gatherings of the National Front, the other well-known far-Right party in Britain

 

[likesfish]

He maybe a cunt.
But as the burglars broke into an isolated farmhouse without his illegal shotgun he'd be dead.
I give the benefit of doubt to the bloke who didn't start the shitshow.

 

[SpineyNorman]

He wouldn't be dead. More likely they'd have fucked off when he disturbed them.

 

[Teaboy]

The interview in the clip above also came from a channel 4 dramatization called The interrogation of Tony Martin. Basically they used the Police Interview tapes in a verbatim dramatization, I think its still available on More 4.

As someone who really only remembers the case vaguely from news story it was a fascinating if disturbing program and there was clearly a lot more to it then the press made out at the time. I think its fair to say Tony Martin was / is a pretty strange character.

 

[tim]

yeah, I saw it when it was aired. He pretty much admitted he deliberately shot Barras in the interview.

Was that ever in question? That is why his initial conviction was for murder.

 

[krtek a houby]

Not really sure why a far right vigilante deserves a wider audience

 

[cupid_stunt]

He maybe a cunt.
But as the burglars broke into an isolated farmhouse without his illegal shotgun he'd be dead.
I give the benefit of doubt to the bloke who didn't start the shitshow.

Juries tend to do that, although in this case, having heard all the evidence, they rejected the choice of returning a manslaughter verdict, and found him guilty of murder, on a majority of 10 to 2.

 

[tim]

Not really sure why a far right vigilante deserves a wider audience

Does shooting burglars, albeit ones trying to get away count as vigalanteism?

Anyway, it's a good story and we all love a good story, don't we?

 

[krtek a houby]

Does shooting burglars, albeit ones trying to get away count as vigalanteism?

Anyway, it's a good story and we all love a good story, don't we?

Sure, but I prefer Batman to BNP man...

 

[kenny g]

Not really sure why a far right vigilante deserves a wider audience

Sure, but I prefer Batman to BNP man...

No apologies for intruding on your internet echo chamber. It was a legally interesting case where the perspective of the actual perpetrator adds quite abit. I wasn't aware of the TV programme the clip was lifted from, nor of the the direct BNP connection identified by some posters so pleased I shared it with the Urban hive mind. The clip hardly puts the perp in a particularly positive light either.

 

[krtek a houby]

No apologies for intruding on your internet echo chamber. It was a legally interesting case where the perspective of the actual perpetrator adds quite abit. I wasn't aware of the TV programme the clip was lifted from, nor of the the direct BNP connection identified by some posters so pleased I shared it with the Urban hive mind. The clip hardly puts the perp in a particularly positive light either.

Fair enough. Apart from the echo chamber/hive mind nonsense.

 

[Spymaster]

yeah, I saw it when it was aired. He pretty much admitted he deliberately shot Barras in the interview.

Of course he delibderately shot him. Did he ever deny that?

 

[agricola]

Juries tend to do that, although in this case, having heard all the evidence, they rejected the choice of returning a manslaughter verdict, and found him guilty of murder, on a majority of 10 to 2.

Of course he delibderately shot him. Did he ever deny that?

Martin probably got convicted initially because his initial defence (that he'd fired downstairs after being startled by a torch) was nonsense and clearly disproved by the forensic evidence; if he'd said he had flipped at being burgled and shot Barras and his colleague out of rage and without remembering the exact sequence of events he would probably not have been convicted of anything other than the gun charge.

 

[tim]

Sure, but I prefer Batman to BNP man...

A fictional fascist Ubermensch as opposed to a real life fascist inadequate.