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Tommy Robinson UKIP Adviser

the goal of a political party is to take political power. i don't see that having happened. the comparison with 'the left' is peculiar, to say the least, you might as well say the labour party have achieved more of their goal, or the tory party more of their goal, as i suppose you refer to the revolutionary rather than reformist left. but i will wait and see whether the ukip have in fact achieved anything. they certainly haven't done anything of note in the last couple of years.
The goal of Ukip was Brexit
 
On 9/11/18 we wrote of Tommy Robbingbastard's political career:

'BNP – United People Of Luton – EDL – British Freedom Party – European Defence League – Quilliam Foundation – UK Pegida – ‘UK Against Hate’ – Rebel Media – hovering near the Football Lads Alliance – Generation Irritation -and next UKIP?' Prescience or pretty obvious trajectory?
 
yes. have we left the european union?

as far as i can see not only have they not achieved anything i am by no means sure brexit will occur.
Wether we actually leave or not we'll find out soon enough. (For what it's worth I think we will leave). Either way ukip have created a highly successful and dominant political narrative of recent years, which lead to the referendum. Massive impact for a fringe party.

By the way, if we don't leave (via a second referendum) there is no way in hell that puts the issue of Brexit back on the shelf... Far from it it'll kick off immediately. Also UK to EU relations would be stretched paper thin if we dont leave, and ukip and it's unholy alliance with cunt chops here may well ride again.
 
Wether we actually leave or not we'll find out soon enough. (For what it's worth I think we will leave). Either way ukip have created a highly successful and dominant political narrative of recent years, which lead to the referendum. Massive impact for a fringe party.

By the way, if we don't leave (via a second referendum) there is no way in hell that puts the issue of Brexit back on the shelf... Far from it it'll kick off immediately. Also UK to EU relations would be stretched paper thin if we dont leave, and ukip and it's unholy alliance with cunt chops here may well ride again.
we'll see. i won't be at all surprised if there is no second referendum, if the ecj's decision goes as i can see a situation occurring in which there is no return to the people but a parliamentary decision to remain. unless something massive changes ukip are going nowhere, and by a massive change i mean in their ability to a) attract and b) stand candidates. see for example their 2017 accounts View statement of accounts - The Electoral Commission which appear to show them somewhat in the red.
 
Meanwhile, in the fight against noncery:

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We'll see if they start gaining votes again once the process of not leaving the EU is finalized, because it looks like thats whats happening now lol

Given that the reason for most EU migration here is their acceptance of lower wages, business will want a post Brexit equivalent.


I'm looking forward to the howling from UKIP when the farmers and builders start Ryanairing loads of Bangladeshis in.
 
The goal of Ukip was Brexit
Surely Brexit or rather LEXIT is a goal of Socialist Workers Party, Socialist Party, CPB. CPGB Marxist Leninist (plus almost all other Tankies), Morning Star Group, RMT, Bakers Union, George Galloway, Individuals In Class War & Sol Fed, Faction/Tendency supporting David Owen, Larry O'Hara & assorted Greens/Environmentalist plus other Liberals & Leftists !
I think you are right, in that Tory Right, UKIP and others on fringe/far right instigated and in many ways lead Brexit campaign for their own reasons, however by your logic the mentioned left wing and liberals above also achieved this end !

I can't see ruling class in Britain & Europe allowing Britain leaving EU to the extent or in the direction that the likes of UKIP want or finding ways around & 'back doors' to policies that would cause them quantitative problems, for example customs union & market orientated legislation by ECJ.
 
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CPB are saying we need to get out of bosses European union as there is no way they will let a renationalisation of public services go ahead.
 
I got the impression that UKIP was always about trying to be the 'respectable' face of racism, and to appeal to people whose main objection to the BNP was that the BNP were too lower class...

I think they started out as a party of golf club bigots and over-privileged libertarian cranks, but have gone beyond that a bit now since that was never going to be a large enough demographic to achieve much power.
 
CPB are saying we need to get out of bosses European union as there is no way they will let a renationalisation of public services go ahead.

Only this isn’t true, the French ( and lots of other countries in the eu ) seem to manage it.
 
Robinson is an evil racist who should never have seen the light of day again. It just goes to show what a nasty party UKIP is.:mad:
 
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