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Is the Velvet Underground & Nico an astonishing album?


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This album is now fifty years old. I first heard heard it on the back of a recommendation from a record shop owner (who danny la rouge will know) back about 1984 or so.

It's not a perfect record, and it's not the VU album I listen to most (that's probably the third one), but it has always been there. I love it to pieces and I suspect I will never tire of it.

 
The third one is the best but I've actually been listening to Loaded more than the others lately. Doug Yule's voice really suits Reed's material.

As for Velvet Underground and Nico, I still remember the first time I heard it. I was expecting something intense and discordant, and what you hear instead is that lovely toy-piano melody of Sunday Morning. Then that weird viola drone comes in and you've got this unbearably sad lyric sung with a kind of hopeless optimism. Utterly devastating.

Sonically nobody has ever done anything like that album. And not for want of trying. There are tracks you listen to and think, how the fuck did they get a guitar to sound like that? Infuriatingly, the answer is probably 'by mistake'.
 
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The third one is the best but I've actually been listening to Loaded more than the others lately. Doug Yule's voice really suits Reed's material.

The 1969 live album is I think the best VU stuff with Doug Yule, it having definitive versions of tracks from Loaded, Lou being nice to the audience, and this wonderful What Goes On:



I agree with what you say about the unexpectedness of the VU. I was expecting the noisier stuff - I came to them via the Jesus and Mary Chain, after all. I didn't expect Sunday Morning or Pale Blue Eyes. Or I'm Sticking With You.
 
It's a great album, but I can't remember the last time I wanted to listen to it. All the songs are too familiar now.

I did enjoy that demo version of it that someone found in a new York junk shop, where lots of the songs are subtly different. That's worth checking out.
 
I was pleased that he could replicate it when I saw them too. It wasn't just a one-off. Slightly marred by Lou Reed doing his annoying '' ... ... ... savingallthelyricsuptotheendofthelineandthenblurtingthemalloutatonce'' thing but still.
 
My mental association is of hearing tracks from it played over the PA at the National Film Theatre in London. Saw several all-nighters there 1969-70 and it was often played in the coffee/toilet breaks between films. One of the projectionists was evidently a fan. Sums up that 'early hours still a film to go' feeling pretty well. Plus the disparity between the music and the NFT itself, which still had commissionaires in uniform and a manager in black suit and bow tie.

Don't really have any mental image of it as an album, mainly because I owned the 1971 double LP compilation MGM put out, with all but one of the tracks from it, plus some from their 2nd and third, but programmed in an entirely different order.

Listening to it in its correct order I'm not sure it's a very cohesive album - it points in lot's of different interesting directions, but not all of them fully worked out IMO. A couple of the tracks seem like filler (eg. Run Run Run) and one or two seem a little overproduced (eg. All Tomorrow's Parties). I think the thing I missed not listening to the original running order was way it builds up to 'European Son', which for me is still by far the most interesting track.
 
The third one is the best but I've actually been listening to Loaded more than the others lately. Doug Yule's voice really suits Reed's material.
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Sonically nobody has ever done anything like that album. And not for want of trying. There are tracks you listen to and think, how the fuck did they get a guitar to sound like that? Infuriatingly, the answer is probably 'by mistake'.

thing is the later albums like Loaded dont have John Cale on them - the sonic attack of the Nico record and White Light Heat seems to have been his legacy...without him they went a bit folky...i like all the eras equally now....sillier tunes like Train Coming Round The Bend are for burnouts, which im happy to include myself in (as an honorary member at least)
 
thing is the later albums like Loaded dont have John Cale on them - the sonic attack of the Nico record and White Light Heat seems to have been his legacy...without him they went a bit folky...i like all the eras equally now....sillier tunes like Train Coming Round The Bend are for burnouts, which im happy to include myself in (as an honorary member at least)

Loaded has no Mo Tucker and not much Sterling Morrison either. And it doesn't really sound like the Velvets at all. Still good music though.
 
Listen to the album version of 'What Goes On' though. Plenty of 'sonic assault' on there, with the clattering rhythm guitar, organ and overlapping lead guitars all trying to drown each other out. The difference is it builds up, rather than appearing as a fully formed racket like Venus In Furs does.
 
Seems to me the albums in a row are like a journey through drug use: from Banana - coming up/peaking, White Light - still banging it hard, VU3 - starting to frazzle, seeing jesus, Loaded - moving to the country for some peace and recovery....
 
Heroin is extraordinary, but some of the Nico songs aren't anything much. I slightly prefer White Light/White Heat.
 
Resonance FM have a music show which seems to be playing albums from 1967 in full, with a little bit of talk between each track
They did VUs Bananas last week
I havent listened to the album in full for a few years now, though ive heard it a good hundred times before that i expect....

Something i got from it this time, was I never realised before how good Lou Reed is on the guitar - I always thought it was John Cale who plays the fucked up solos on Run Run Run and European Son - in my mind has to go down as two of the greatest guitar solos of all time - especially Run Run Run.

Also Im a bit more jaded to the record now - not only have i overplayed it, but some of the youthful thrill has gone - that said the variety of material and running order is pure genius...there are at least three different styles on the album: the Nico songs, the rock n roll riffing drug tales and the noise experiments (supposedly inspired by Ornette Colemans jazz sax experiments, said the radio). If one style gets a bit much, the next track will switch it up. Kept me interested to hear it one more time all the way through....
 
I was pleased that he could replicate it when I saw them too. It wasn't just a one-off. Slightly marred by Lou Reed doing his annoying '' ... ... ... savingallthelyricsuptotheendofthelineandthenblurtingthemalloutatonce'' thing but still.

Was that at Glastonbury? that's a perfect description of what he did when they there
 
I found myself listening to a load a later Nico stuff a few weeks ago - this (a performance from a nightclub less than two minutes walk from my front door) is fab. There's a load of other songs from the same set on youtube too, it's all pretty compelling. Seems to split opinion mind...

 
Something i got from it this time, was I never realised before how good Lou Reed is on the guitar - I always thought it was John Cale who plays the fucked up solos on Run Run Run and European Son - in my mind has to go down as two of the greatest guitar solos of all time - especially Run Run Run.
yep lou reed was the best guitarist who ever lived (on those recordings)... white light white heat is the masterpiece tho, the guitar on sister ray.
 
Was that at Glastonbury? that's a perfect description of what he did when they there

He was like that on the whole tour they did. I saw them at the Playhouse in Edinburgh, which was the opening night of the tour, and it was an extraordinary occasion. The band were great, but it was the crowd that really shone. I've never been to a gig with such a wide age range: from young teenage indie-kids to really quite elderly greybeards, united in the slight sense of disbelief that we were all actually watching The Velvet Underground play. Lou, John, Mo and Sterling were all quite visibly and audibly moved by the reception they got. :)
 
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