the most shameful moment in the labour party's history

[Pickman's model]

according to jonathan ashworth it's the investigation into anti-semitism by the equality and human rights commission: Antisemitism inquiry is Labour's most shameful moment, says senior MP

but i thought it might be the fucked up way they partitioned india in 1947 leading to more than a million dead

what would you suggest is the labour party's most shameful moment?

 

[Teaboy]

Well that Cyril Smith fella...

 

[maomao]

Well that Cyril Smith fella...

Was a Liberal.

 

[Streathamite]

what would you suggest is the labour party's most shameful moment?

too many to mention.

 

[Pickman's model]

too many to mention.

come now

only one of them can be the most shameful moment

although there are a lot of shameful moments

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

There was something about their leader and then PM taking us into a minor war in Iraq iirc

 

[Argonia]

Electing Blair

 

[Pickman's model]

it could be the iniquitous drive to war against iraq in 2003

the bombing of yugoslavia which precipitated massacres in kosovo

and this is just looking at the ones which have involved military action

 

[Teaboy]

Was a Liberal.

Not always

 

[platinumsage]

We’re all right

 

[Teaboy]

Probably Blair's wars.

 

[Sprocket.]

There are more shameful moments in my lifetime involving Labour.
The one that always disgusts me beyond others was Harold Wilson’s complicity in the millions of deaths from starvation during the Biafra Conflict.

 

[planetgeli]

Well it's hard to compete with war dead but Kinnock's sacrificing of the Miners in order to win an election he then lost ranks pretty high on a domestic level in my lifetime.

 

[maomao]

Not always

If we're going to include local councillors and the like I'm sure there's plenty as bad as or worse than Smith.

 

[Sprocket.]

Well t's hard to compete with war dead but Kinnock's sacrificing of the Miners in order to win an election he then lost ranks pretty high on a domestic level in my lifetime.

This is another disgrace and I am certain in my mind this is another reason the offspring of miners voted against Labour in the last election. Labour betrayed the miners has been heard a lot since the strike.

 

[brogdale]

I don't claim it lies higher than the Iraq war, but it's up there...

 

[SpookyFrank]

Keith Starmer mercilessly running down that cyclist the other day.

 

[Sprocket.]

Perhaps Jonathan Ashworth should devote some of his precious time to doing a minimum of research into the history of a party he represents.

 

[planetgeli]

Well it's hard to compete with war dead but Kinnock's sacrificing of the Miners in order to win an election he then lost ranks pretty high on a domestic level in my lifetime.

And let's not forget his shameful excuse.

(I was) so helpless that I couldn’t convey my helplessness.

One of the factors that guided me from the early days was the determination not to do anything that would be presented by Scargill as a reason for the ultimate defeat of the miners,” said Mr Kinnock.

“I wanted to absolutely guarantee that … Scargill couldn’t turn round and say ‘if only the Labour leader hadn’t done this or had done that we would have won

Quisling cunt.

 

[editor]

Blair/Iraq.

 

[Streathamite]

it could be the iniquitous drive to war against iraq in 2003

the bombing of yugoslavia which precipitated massacres in kosovo

and this is just looking at the ones which have involved military action

If I had to pick one; iraq.

 

[Pickman's model]

If I had to pick one; iraq.

although as you say it is up against stiff competition

 

[andysays]

according to jonathan ashworth it's the investigation into anti-semitism by the equality and human rights commission: Antisemitism inquiry is Labour's most shameful moment, says senior MP

but i thought it might be the fucked up way they partitioned india in 1947 leading to more than a million dead

what would you suggest is the labour party's most shameful moment?

It may be the result of the use of hideously imprecise and ambiguous language in the Guardian's reporting, but both the headline and the story itself appear to mean that it's the enquiry itself rather than the events they're enquiring into which is the shameful thing.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Has to be Iraq, the fall out from which is not just still ongoing, it's still fucking raging. And all so Blair could rim the piles of a Republican president.

 

[Pickman's model]

It may be the result of the use of hideously imprecise and ambiguous language in the Guardian's reporting, but both the headline and the story itself appear to mean that it's the enquiry itself rather than the events they're enquiring into which is the shameful thing.

just so. it is shameful they are looking into us, said jonathan ashworth

 

[ddraig]

also

 

[Throbbing Angel]

Blairaq

 

[redsquirrel]

Well it's hard to compete with war dead but Kinnock's sacrificing of the Miners in order to win an election he then lost ranks pretty high on a domestic level in my lifetime.

Likewise the lack of support for the General Strike.

 

[brogdale]

So many...

 

[steeplejack]

Yep Blair & Iraq

Kinnock sitting on his hands in 1984/85

The collective slithering of individual careerists from the early 2000s : hardline grifters like Milburn (hardline Trotskyist- party machine bully & hack - private health ‘adviser’) Reid ( Lanarkshire socialist-cum-right-wing warmonger), Straw, Murphy ( Student socialist - Henry Jackson society in just a few bounces of the new Labour space-hopper).

All washed up has-beens now of course but very much created the space and set the trajectory for the last few parliaments to be more corrupt, rotten and venal than any since the eighteenth century.