The Dominic Cummings file
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Plumdaff
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So this bit about his son going to hospital, why did he pick his son up from hospital the day after he told us he'd collapsed? He was symptomatic so he should have been self isolating. Where were these relatives that were supposedly the whole point of driving to Durham? Shouldn't they have picked his son up, because otherwise he's admitted walking into a children's hospital with likely coronavirus. Having travelled from London to the North East.
That's appalling isn't it?
That's appalling isn't it?
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
He had a long war with no thanks from his ailing boss. Dom or no Dom he will regard him as a cunt no doubt.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
The FT going in hard.
Is a political tipping point discernible? For the past four years, the Conservatives have been blessed with a lack of opposition as Brexit tore through two of the party’s prime ministers and delivered Mr Johnson to power at the head of what seemed a fresh iteration of the Conservative project. His new coalition of Tory and Labour voters backed an agenda successfully sold as a patriotic project that emphasised effective action: “Get Brexit Done”. Five months later, that commitment to taking charge looks shaky.
High levels of support for Mr Johnson, boosted by sympathy during his illness and the tendency to rally round leaders in an emergency, are ebbing. It will no longer be enough to assume that there is no alternative. Labour leader Keir Starmer’s restrained critique of ministers’ performance is a telling contrast to cabinet bombast at the daily government press briefing, overpromising and underdelivering. As the UK emerges from Covid-19’s first onslaught, the Tories cannot afford to bungle the economic response alongside the public health emergency. A double whammy of blame would not be survivable, even if Mr Sunak were to offer a fresh face at the helm.
Competence is not always the defining factor in politics — in normal times it is a necessary precondition, a basic requirement for office. But after a shock, political scientists find that changes. “Something happens to make the political competition centred on handling and trust,” as Jane Green, author of The Politics of Competence, puts it. Bluntly, at some point the mood switches from, “They’re doing the best they can” to, “This is a shambles”.
Usually, says Prof Green, there is attrition on a government’s competence rating over time — the “cost of ruling”. But rather than a series of small crises, one significant disaster can be politically devastating as loss of trust becomes generalised — consider the many years it took the Conservative party to recover its reputation after Black Wednesday. Coronavirus is both a personal and universal shock. It is bizarre for government loyalists to assert that the Cummings affair is a Westminster bubble story or to question its “cut through” with voters.
Every individual and household in the UK has been affected by lockdown, some making extreme sacrifices. The daily press conference reaches up to 27m viewers. The scandal damages the bond that Mr Cummings’ flair as a campaigner successfully established between the Johnson operation and the electorate. The Leave victory rested at least partly on impatience — disgust even — at a cadre of professional politicians easily caricatured as bloodless technocrats, interested in management and preserving the status quo.
It was Mr Cummings and Mr Johnson at the head of that campaign who brought this discontent with the governing elites to a head. It may be a fitting irony that it is, “Do as I say, not as I do” hypocrisy has mobilised public anger against them. But the more serious problem they face is their inability to show that they, too, can be trusted managers and in a crisis, that they are equipped to govern competently — and to protect the public from the twin threats of disease and destitution. Last year a Hansard Society poll found majority support in Britain for “a strong leader willing to break the rules”.
But it turns out the Brits do want the rules to be observed — even by the leader and those around him. Mr Johnson likes to invoke Winston Churchill. He will not thank me for suggesting that unless Downing Street can recover public trust, the next few weeks could be the beginning of the end of his premiership.
High levels of support for Mr Johnson, boosted by sympathy during his illness and the tendency to rally round leaders in an emergency, are ebbing. It will no longer be enough to assume that there is no alternative. Labour leader Keir Starmer’s restrained critique of ministers’ performance is a telling contrast to cabinet bombast at the daily government press briefing, overpromising and underdelivering. As the UK emerges from Covid-19’s first onslaught, the Tories cannot afford to bungle the economic response alongside the public health emergency. A double whammy of blame would not be survivable, even if Mr Sunak were to offer a fresh face at the helm.
Competence is not always the defining factor in politics — in normal times it is a necessary precondition, a basic requirement for office. But after a shock, political scientists find that changes. “Something happens to make the political competition centred on handling and trust,” as Jane Green, author of The Politics of Competence, puts it. Bluntly, at some point the mood switches from, “They’re doing the best they can” to, “This is a shambles”.
Usually, says Prof Green, there is attrition on a government’s competence rating over time — the “cost of ruling”. But rather than a series of small crises, one significant disaster can be politically devastating as loss of trust becomes generalised — consider the many years it took the Conservative party to recover its reputation after Black Wednesday. Coronavirus is both a personal and universal shock. It is bizarre for government loyalists to assert that the Cummings affair is a Westminster bubble story or to question its “cut through” with voters.
Every individual and household in the UK has been affected by lockdown, some making extreme sacrifices. The daily press conference reaches up to 27m viewers. The scandal damages the bond that Mr Cummings’ flair as a campaigner successfully established between the Johnson operation and the electorate. The Leave victory rested at least partly on impatience — disgust even — at a cadre of professional politicians easily caricatured as bloodless technocrats, interested in management and preserving the status quo.
It was Mr Cummings and Mr Johnson at the head of that campaign who brought this discontent with the governing elites to a head. It may be a fitting irony that it is, “Do as I say, not as I do” hypocrisy has mobilised public anger against them. But the more serious problem they face is their inability to show that they, too, can be trusted managers and in a crisis, that they are equipped to govern competently — and to protect the public from the twin threats of disease and destitution. Last year a Hansard Society poll found majority support in Britain for “a strong leader willing to break the rules”.
But it turns out the Brits do want the rules to be observed — even by the leader and those around him. Mr Johnson likes to invoke Winston Churchill. He will not thank me for suggesting that unless Downing Street can recover public trust, the next few weeks could be the beginning of the end of his premiership.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
18th century poets. No proof he isn't one.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Mrs Q and I sat and watched it and had cornettos since we are out of popcorn, The eyesight quote was an absolute classic; If true it's so awesomely fucking stupid that it defies belief, if it's not it's even more incredible that it's the best they can come up with.
During BoZo's briefing I was expecting him to storm off shouting "Give It A Fucking Rest with Dominic Cummings", he was clearly losing it towards the end.
My only regret is that I didn't follow this thread at the same time as watching it since it moved on 30+ pages by the time I came back to it.
Cummings has put some stakes in the ground though, he specifically stated that he only went to Barnard Castle on the 12th and the guy who claimed he saw him on the 14th is mistaken. I reckon there is going to be a massive appeal for phone or dashcam footage that proves otherwise.
During BoZo's briefing I was expecting him to storm off shouting "Give It A Fucking Rest with Dominic Cummings", he was clearly losing it towards the end.
My only regret is that I didn't follow this thread at the same time as watching it since it moved on 30+ pages by the time I came back to it.
Cummings has put some stakes in the ground though, he specifically stated that he only went to Barnard Castle on the 12th and the guy who claimed he saw him on the 14th is mistaken. I reckon there is going to be a massive appeal for phone or dashcam footage that proves otherwise.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Exactly what I would say to anyone thinking of responding to one of cyril_smear's transparently irksome posts.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
He did, didn't he?
Also appeared to diagnose the untested Cummings as Covid+ by explaining his decision making as consistent with those who have suffered, 9as he had done).
Warracunt.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Fucking idiots.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Questions, questions, more questions...
www.theguardian.com
The lockdown breach questions Dominic Cummings has yet to clarify
Boris Johnson’s aide failed to draw a line under affair that has caused fury across the UK
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Cummings having enough dirt on Johnson to bury him forever is looking like the only plausible explanation here.
Problem is, there are a lot of fucking idiots out there who'll blame 'the media' for hounding Cummings rather than him for ... well, being Cummings.
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
or hapless Johnson is scared and useless and sees Cumming's as his strategy saviour as there is no Plan B.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I really don't think there are that many.
People are trolling Trip Advisor now.
www.google.com
Coronavirus: Barnard Castle's TripAdvisor page flooded with spoof Dominic Cummings reviews
One spoof reviewer said it was "a chance to really let my hair down and get away from work".
www.google.com
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
If you go back about 20 or 30 pages to last night you'll find me making this same argument.
Difficult to tell, isn't it. Twitter would make you believe there are loads, but... Too many either way though.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
It's not physically possible to keep up with this thread at the moment. I went out for an afternoon stroll today and when I came home I was 30+ pages behind.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
People are trolling Trip Advisor now.
Coronavirus: Barnard Castle's TripAdvisor page flooded with spoof Dominic Cummings reviews
One spoof reviewer said it was "a chance to really let my hair down and get away from work".
Someone edited the wiki page for Barnard Castle, listing Cummings as a 'famous visitor', it's since been deleted.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Threads like this used to happen regularly on here.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It's not wrong. There's an editorial case for giving him his own section.Correction, it's back again.
Or both. Personally, I think they regard Cummings as too important to the whole enterprise to lose, but they're also well aware that he knows where the bodies are buried.
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